I'm just recovering from being stunned at seeing a report of a devout German cardinal. God bless Cardinal Woelki. I'd better not write what I think of that Feige fellow.
No. Don’t write what you think of that Feige fellow, because you might be labeled as “belligerent” and “whining.”
We’ll be dead last in all of Texas. 1) 7th biggest city in US 2) Liberal county commissioner 3) Liberal bishop
I keep thinking of Pope Francis being martyred for the faith and Benedict -- prayers, prayers, prayers
I encourage everyone to listen to Burke in the above. I put great value on what he says because of his apparent humility. Safe in the Refuge of the Immaculate Heart!
I’m not so sure right now how that will occur but I appreciate that you encouraged us to pray. Thank you.
Pope orders review of Old Rite Cardinal Antonio Canizares Llovera using incense during a solemn pontifical Mass in the extraordinary form at the Basilica of St John Lateran in Rome in 2010. The Holy See is conducting a world-wide survey of the traditional Latin Mass focussing on whether celebrations of the Tridentine liturgy respond to genuine pastoral needs and are following guidelines. The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has written to the world’s bishops explaining that Pope Francis “wishes to be informed” about the application of Benedict XVI’s 2007 ruling which lifted restrictions on pre-Vatican II liturgical celebrations. Along with the letter, the bishops are asked to respond to a series of questions aimed at gaining an accurate picture of how the Extraordinary Form of the Mass is celebrated across the world. With his legal ruling “Summorum Pontificum”, Benedict XVI lifted restrictions on the old rite due to “the continued requests of these members of the faithful”, including young people, attached to this version of the Mass celebrated before the liturgical reforms of the Second Vatican Council. It allowed for the wider use of the 1962 missal of John XXIII, which the bishops of the council had overwhelmingly voted in favour of reforming. These reforms were then implemented by Paul VI and completed in 1970. There has long been debate about the level of demand for pre-Vatican II forms of worship, and there is scant evidence of any serious take-up outside of traditionalist hotspots in Europe, North America and some parts of Latin America. Some devotees of the old rite have responded with alarm to the review with the Rorate Caeli site asking whether “the rights and continuity of the Traditional Latin Rite” are now under threat and whether the results may indicate “serious consequences”. But Joseph Shaw, Chairman of the Latin Mass Society of England and Wales, says he is optimistic about the doctrine congregation’s attitudes to the wider use of the Extraordinary Form. “I do not view this survey as a threat, but simply as indicating a desire by the CDF to have solid information from around the world,” he told The Tablet. Among the questions the bishops are being asked to consider is whether celebrations of the old rite “respond to a true pastoral need or is it promoted by a single priest” and whether the norms and conditions of “Summorum Pontificum” are being respected. In that text, Benedict states that priests should respond to requests for the old rite “where a group of the faithful attached to the previous liturgical tradition stably exists” and gave priests freedom to celebrate it privately. A Rome source told The Tablet the survey was a routine piece of work to understand what is happening with the old rite. The source added, however, that the results could indicate how Extraordinary Form Masses are being promoted by individual priests and with a minimal number of faithful. In some cases, traditionalists have even been using Holy Week liturgical books which pre-date changes made by Pope Pius XII in the 1950s, which Summorum Pontificum makes no mention of. For his part, Francis has described the liturgical reforms of the Second Vatican as “irreversible” and with his extensive travel and focus on the growing local churches of Africa and Asia will want to know if the old rite is part of their mission. The Jesuit Pope, however, has shown no indication that he wishes to restrict or rescind the old rite ruling made by his predecessor. “Assuming the CDF receives reasonably complete responses, comparing reports written in 2010 and in 2020 will show not only a steady growth in the number of celebrations, but an increasing and serene integration of the EF [Extraordinary Form] into the life of the Church, something attributable in large part to the attitude of the bishops themselves,” Mr Shaw said, pointing to Archbishop Malcolm McMahon of Liverpool and Bishop Philip Egan of Portsmouth carrying out ordinations using the extraordinary form. He argued that an “older generation of more hostile bishops” thought people would eventually lose interest in the pre-Vatican II liturgy but, on the contrary, “their successors are almost always more open-minded. As time goes on it becomes clearer to younger priests and laity how the old arguments against the EF were often based on flawed scholarship and theological misunderstandings.” Mr Shaw admitted, however, that traditionalist “groups still struggle to organise adequate regular Masses, for example in Africa and Asia”. In a sign that the Extraordinary Form of the Mass is here to stay, the Vatican recently published new prayers to be used in old rite celebrations and the inclusion of newly canonised saints into their liturgical calendar. Mr Shaw said this was an “attitude of positive development” to the older form of the Mass as was “permission given three years ago for the celebration of the pre-1955 Holy Week, in response to the persistent desire of priests who celebrate it”. That permission was given by the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei which the Pope suppressed last year and transferred its responsibilities to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Critics of re-introducing the Tridentine liturgy point to the risk of creating two rites in the Church. This, they argue, harms ecclesial unity based on the “lex orandi, lex credendi” principle of “the law of prayer, is the law of belief.” In 2007 Benedict XVI defended himself from this criticism saying “it is not appropriate to speak of these two versions of the Roman Missal as if they were ‘two Rites’. Rather, it is a matter of a twofold use of one and the same rite.” He added: “What earlier generations held as sacred, remains sacred and great for us too, and it cannot be all of a sudden entirely forbidden or even considered harmful.” Sceptics of the Old Rite of the Mass say it represents a clericalist ecclesiology that excludes lay people and risks turning the liturgy into a form of rubricism. Its defenders, meanwhile, include those who retain an attachment to the older form of the Mass which they grew up with as children, and groups of younger Catholics who say they can connect spiritually with the pre-conciliar rituals. What cannot be denied, however, is that the lifting of restrictions of the old rite contrast with Pope St Paul VI’s rulings on the topic who only foresaw aged or sick priests continuing to celebrate the pre-Vatican II liturgy. “Any course of action seeking to stand in the way of the conciliar decrees can under no consideration be regarded as a work done for the advantage of the Church, since it in fact does the Church serious harm,” Pope Paul said. And to mark the 50th anniversary of the publication of Paul VI’s liturgical reforms last year, a Vatican official explained how this process was undertaken with careful deliberation and was a renewal of Christian worship that was deeply rooted in the Church's tradition. https://www.thetablet.co.uk/news/12819/pope-orders-review-of-old-rite-
Is the Pope a Hologram? Something Spooky is Happening in Rome! Maybe this Hologram is to blame for renouncing his title as the Vicar of Christ?
Looks like an all out attack now Pope Francis’ confidant: Sunday Mass obligation isn’t ‘indispensable,’ it ‘could fall’ Archbishop Victor Manuel Fernández said that 'social distancing and quarantine' will require Catholics to 'reinvent' themselves Tue Apr 28, 2020 - 2:38 pm EST Archbishop Víctor Manuel Fernández Prensa y Comunicación Arzobispado La Plata / Youtube April 28, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) – Archbishop Víctor Manuel Fernández, a papal ghostwriter and personal confidant of Pope Francis, said in a recent interview that the precept of the Catholic Church that Catholics go to church on Sundays and Holy Days of obligation “is not indispensable” and could “fall.” At the same time, Fernández also mentions the Sacrament of Penance, saying it “has changed a lot over the centuries,” implying a possible change with regard to this Sacrament, as well. Speaking with the Spanish news outlet Religión Digital in an April 27 report, the Argentine Archbishop of La Plata reflects upon the situation of the Catholic Church in light of the coronavirus. The news outlet describes this prelate, who is thought to be the main author behind the Pope’s controversial document Amoris Laetitia, as being “very close to the thought of Pope Francis.” The Argentine prelate remarks about several of the Sacraments of the Catholic Church. After first stating that, due to an extended period of “social distancing and quarantine,” we will be required “to reinvent ourselves,” he adds: “I do not know how Pope Francis will do it since he has insisted so much on physical closeness.” About the current “structure of another era,” we do not yet know “what its replacement will be.” One of the “replacements” might have to do with the Sacraments. With regard to the question of whether the Sacraments of the Holy Eucharist and of Penance need to be “revised,” Fernández states – after insisting that online Masses are “almost a contradiction in terms” due to the “mystery of the Incarnation” – that the obligation to go to Mass on Sundays and Holy Days “is not indispensable” and “is something that could fall.” The Sunday obligation is one of the Six Precepts of the Catholic Church. States the Catechism of the Catholic Church: “The precept of the Church specifies the law of the Lord more precisely: ‘On Sundays and other holy days of obligation the faithful are bound to participate in the Mass.’ ‘The precept of participating in the Mass is satisfied by assistance at a Mass which is celebrated anywhere in a Catholic rite either on the holy day or on the evening of the preceding day.’” Not to go to Holy Mass on Sunday or on Holy Days of obligation without a serious reason is for Catholics a mortal sin. For many Catholics, Mass on Sunday is often the only event in the week where people are in touch with their priests and with the Sacraments and teachings of the Church. Fernández adds that “the form of the Sacrament of Penance has changed a lot over the centuries” and that the present form “is only one of the possible ones.” Concerning the Holy Eucharist – without which “the Church cannot be understood” – this prelate points out that there are “different ways” of regarding its place: “one can interpret it in a merely ritualistic or very intimate way, or one can understand it as the great source of communion and fraternal commitment.” In the Eucharist, he continues, “the Word of God Itself reaches its maximum effectiveness.” Fernández does not mention here that the Holy Eucharist is the very Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Jesus Christ Who is being offered up to God the Father at every Holy Sacrifice of the Mass for the forgiveness of sins. One may never regard it in a “merely ritualistic way.” This papal adviser also insists that Pope Francis, with his new post-synodal document Querida Amazonia, wanted “to empower the laity and to stop uniting priesthood and power so closely.” Pope Francis, according to this prelate, wishes “to 'distribute' power through new ministries and lay functions 'endowed with authority.'” Archbishop Fernández regrets that people have not yet picked up on these papal proposals and that “no serious work is being done along these lines.” Furthermore, he speaks about the fact that in his region, even before the corona crisis, “there was a loss of interest in funeral rites. Little by little the funeral processions were disappearing, the vigils were being shortened or disappeared, many people no longer go to the cemeteries, some simply dispose of the ashes by throwing them into a river.” “But beyond the objective importance that one can attribute to funeral rites, is this dynamic really positive? Does it help a healthy mourning process?” This crisis might, he adds, become the cause for a “re-evaluation.” Fernández stresses that the Church in his region has increased now during this crisis her corporal acts of mercy, even re-opening several Caritas offices for the sake of offering help to those who now suffer under poverty. He explains that people now turn to the Church for help who would not have done so under different circumstances. For him, it is important that the Church shows herself as “very humble,” adding that “in a situation like this, we should not talk too much.” That is to say, he seems to stress a Church that helps the poor but does not raise her moral or theological voice too much in these difficult times. The Church should be “discreet, humble and at the same time collaborative and generous.” This prelate has been a controversial clergyman for many years. Among other things, he has written a book about the “art of kissing.” When being the rector of the Pontifical Catholic University of Argentina and a close confidant of Pope Francis, some of his statements contradicting Catholic moral and sacramental doctrine were discovered to have found there way into Amoris Laetitia. https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/...s-obligation-isnt-indispensable-it-could-fall +
Does anyone have a clue what this man believes in? Why is his 'theological' language so vague and hard to understand? Imagine listening to one of his sermons? He would empty the church quicker than an IRA bombscare. His use of big words suggest a lot of bluff and piffle.
I know very little about this alleged Sister Lucia imposter theory but this should be interesting to watch when it comes out: New EXPLOSIVE Fatima Documentary Will Rock The Church
Lucy’s family denounces this as false. Aviso knows the family they are not happy about this this info can be found on his website Aviso garabandal I can’t link from my phone I think I would know if I had an imposter sister or brother Get serious
I am absolutely certain that there was an impostor Sr Lucy. There are major differences in their facial features, which cannot be explained by aging, dental work etc. I am really glad that Dr Chojnowski went ahead with the Sr Lucy Truth project where he paid professionals to get to the bottom of it. I actually posted about this on the "third secret of Fatima new developments" thread not too long ago: https://motheofgod.com/threads/the-third-secret-of-fatima-new-developments.10454/page-15#post-279430 Also, if you haven't watched the new video where Dr Taylor Marshall discusses the 3rd secret with Christopher Ferrara, please do so. It is highly informative. +
I do not know about this mans intentions or why he would choose to put forward such a thing at a time when so many are alone and afraid especially the elderly but it seems that many people do not wish to let this crisis go to waste in promoting themselves and their lunacy ideas. So many it seems wish to promote the notion of separation of all people one from another from now on and insist with utmost authority that there "can be no going back". It is completely absurd.
