The third secret of Fatima....new developments.

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  1. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    I have to post the entire article, it is well worth reading. Thank you Mac.

    Cardinal Burke: Russia was not consecrated ‘in the manner requested by Our Lady’
    consecration of russia , our lady of fatima , raymond burke

    IRVING, Texas, October 9, 2017 (LifeSiteNews) — “It is evident that the consecration (of Russia) was not carried out in the manner requested by Our Lady,” said Vatican Cardinal Raymond Burke in his keynote address marking highlight and conclusion of the Fatima Centennial Summit held over the weekend.

    “I do not doubt for a moment the intention of Pope St. John Paul II to carry out the consecration on March 25, 1984,” said Cardinal Burke, adding also that “Our Lady had accepted it.”

    He continued nonetheless, “Recognizing the necessity of a total conversion from atheistic materialism and communism to Christ, the call of Our Lady of Fatima to consecrate Russia to Her Immaculate Heart in accord with Her explicit instruction remains urgent.”

    The former head of the Vatican’s highest court reissued his call, first made at the Rome Life Forum in May, for the faithful to pray and work for the consecration of Russia according to Our Lady’s specific instruction. He quoted the end of the famous secret to the children where Our Lady Herself predicted: “In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me, and she shall be converted, and a period of peace will be granted to the world.”

    With some 700 attendees, the conference was the largest Fatima centennial celebration in North America. To a standing ovation both before and after he spoke, Cardinal Burke delved deeply into the message of Our Lady of Fatima, her predictions and the consequences of failing to heed her warnings to the world.

    The Cardinal drew a direct line from the famous Third Secret of Fatima’s dire predictions for the massacre of priests, religious and the death of the Pope to the current crisis in the Church.

    “The teaching of the Faith in its integrity and with courage is the heart of the office of the Church’s pastors: the Roman Pontiff, the Bishops in communion with the See of Peter, and their principal co-workers, the priests,” he said. “For that reason, the Third Secret is directed, with particular force, to those who exercise the pastoral office in the Church. Their failure to teach the faith, in fidelity to the Church’s constant teaching and practice, whether through a superficial, confused or even worldly approach, and their silence endangers mortally, in the deepest spiritual sense, the very souls for whom they have been consecrated to care spiritually.”

    Cardinal Burke, who has suffered publicly for his defense of the faith, urged the faithful, “Let us not fail to embrace whatever suffering comes from our faithful witness to Him Who is the true Treasure of our hearts.”

    “Let us not give way to discouragement but rather remember that the Immaculate Heart of the Blessed Virgin Mary assumed into glory, never ceases to beat with love for us, the children Her Divine Son gave to Her as He was dying on the cross,” he said.

    The Cardinal concluded quoting the words of Pope St. John Paul II, who in 1982 during his consecration of the world to the Immaculate Heart noted: “Mary’s appeal is not for just once. Her appeal must be taken up by generation after generation, in accordance with the ever new ‘signs of the times.’ It must be unceasingly returned to. It must ever be taken up anew.”

    Organized by Catholic Action, videos from the conference will in time be made available on its website.
     
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  2. earthtoangels

    earthtoangels Powers

  3. earthtoangels

    earthtoangels Powers

    I was reading some of the references to the Fatima requests given to Luz de Maria....quite serious due to action not being taken as requested (just a few of the references listed on the special page re: Fatima):

    OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST
    03.20.2013

    IN THIS INSTANT I ASK MY SON FRANCIS, POPE AND BISHOP OF ROME, TO MAKE KNOWN THE THIRD SECRET THAT MY MOTHER BEQUEATHED TO HUMANITY AT FATIMA.


    THE BLESSED VIRGIN MARY
    05.13.2013


    My Heart bleeds before the silence kept by those who have not revealed the entirety of My Call at Fatima with which could have been avoided the pain for My children.

    BREAKING UP THE THIRD MESSAGE OF FATIMA HAS BEEN THE GRAVE ERROR: A DISOBEDIENCE THAT INFALLIBLY GENERATED THIS BLEAK INSTANT OF THIS GENERATION. INTO THE HANDS OF THE HIERARCHY OF MY SON’S CHURCH, OF WHOM I AM PROTECTOR AND MOTHER, I ENTRUST THE REMAINDER OF MY DISTRESSING CALL.

    OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST
    11.01.2014

    You have not heed My call to conversion and My Mother is evaded by My own children, who have attracted calamities like a magnet towards mankind..., you omitted the Request of My Mother in Fatima, Russia has not been consecrated to the immaculate heart of My Mother.

    THE BLESSED VIRGIN MARY
    05.10.2015

    IN FATIMA I WARNED ABOUT COMMUNISM AND ITS DESTRUCTIVE POWER. THEY SAW MY REQUESTS FROM A DISTANCE FOR FEAR OF NAMING RUSSIA, AND NOW THEY FIND THEMSELVES INSTANTS AWAY FROM THAT POWER—WHICH THEY DID NOT WANT TO SILENCE WHEN I REQUESTED IT—TO POUNCE AGAINST ALL HUMANKIND.
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    ***Anthropologic, historical and scientific studies together with public indiscretions of persons who accessed the original text have determined that parts of the heavenly secrets still remain hidden today by decision of the hierarchy of the Catholic Church. These still unrevealed parts contain truths that are dramatic and compromising to the future of the Institution and of the world, revealing also a truth of cosmic order, which has led those who are responsible to the grave error of disregarding the request of the Blessed Virgin Mary: to make completely public Her Message and to consecrate Russia in a special way to Her Immaculate Heart... [see consecration to Russia].


    I AM A MOTHER RECOGNIZED BY MY SON’S CHURCH BUT WHOSE WORDS ARE SILENCED. I AM A MOTHER WITHOUT A VOICE.



    MY FAITHFUL CHILDREN WILL AGAIN BE PERSECUTED AND CHURCHES WILL BE CLOSED, MASONRY WILL SPREAD ITS HORRORS INFILTRATED INTO THE HOUSE OF MY SON ON EARTH AND FROM WHICH HE WILL HAVE BEEN EXPELLED.The blood of the just will wipe clean the sin of the wicked.



    THE CONSECRATION OF RUSSIA TO MY IMMACULATE HEART WAS NOT CARRIED OUT AS I ASKED: the Vicar of Rome united with the bishops of the world and all the believers at the same time and in unity. Russia, loved by Me, will spread its errors throughout the world and there will be lament when it is too late.



    MY PRIESTS SONS, SUNKEN IN THE SETBACKS OF SOCIETY, WILL DEDICATE THEMSELVES TO ENGAGE WITH THEIR COMMUNITIES WITHOUT CARRYING SPIRITUALITY BEFORE THEM, JUST SOCIALIZATION. The houses of formation of My beloved Priests will be invaded by modernisms, distorting true mysticism and the spirituality with which they must lead.



    THE GREAT IMPOSTOR WILL TAKE MY SON’S THRONE, AND THE MAJORITY WILL LOOK AT HIM PLEASED.

    THE LITURGY WILL BE SATURATED WITH MODERNISMS that will offend the thrice Holy Heart of My Son…, and I will be banished.



    Humanity is in grave danger, COMMUNISM HAS CHANGED ITS FACETS, IT HAS MADE AGREEMENTS WITH SECTS THAT REMAIN WITHIN MY SON’S VERY CHURCH, undermining the power of My Vicars, to the point of making one of them flee amidst the cadavers of his faithful cardinals and bishops, the Church having suffered its most grave apostasy before the earthly power that will usurp the Throne of Peter on Earth.

    MORE: https://www.revelacionesmarianas.com/fatimaIN.html
     
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  4. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Maranatha

    Seeing the above statements (highlighted in bold) in a post that Blizzard made on a new thread (about Garabandal and the prophecy of the 3 popes), I feel that it is time to bring attention to the results of professional investigations into the existence (or not) of an impostor Sr Lucia.

    I have long believed that there was an impostor who replaced the real Sr Lucia after 1960.
    The results of the investigations confirm this.

    Again, the reason I'm bringing it up now is to highlight the fact that everything said by the impostor Sr Lucy should be totally disregarded.


    Sister Lucy dos Santos of Fatima and the Woman Who Replaced Her
    [​IMG]

    We at Sister Lucy Truth publicly declare that based on the evidence presented here, we have found it to be morally and scientifically certain that the woman portrayed to the world as “Sister Lucy,” from her first public appearance on May 13, 1967 to her death on February 13, 2005, was not the same person as Sister Lucy, Seer of Fatima and Visionary who predicted the Miracle of the Sun on October 13, 1917.

    This, one of the greatest frauds in the history of the Church, was discovered through the use of the most sophisticated facial recognition programs available, along with the accumulated testimony of plastic surgeons, orthodontists, forensic artists, private investigators, handwriting analysts, and facial recognition experts. Due to the availability of hundreds of photos of “Sister Lucy” on the internet and in authoritative biographies, this case of substitution, fraud, and stolen identity has been able to be uncovered and analyzed. Without the judgment of the best and most relevant professionals available, we would not be making this grave accusation and presenting this charge. We will continue to accumulate and post on this site new studies and research concerning this investigation as they are produced and published. All of the names of the relevant experts shall be published along with their professional findings. The truth of the disappearance of the true Sister Lucy and the identity of the imposter who took her place shall be placed before an internationally based private investigator who will investigate and solve the case.

    The fraud has been identified and named. We charge the highest officials in the Vatican with conspiracy to perpetuate and conceal the substitution of Sister Lucy dos Santos of Fatima with an as yet unknown Imposter.

    https://sisterlucyimposter.org/an-indictment/

    This project called 'Sister Lucy Truth' was started by Dr Peter Chojnowski in November 2017.
    Its purpose is to discover the truth concerning the life and person of Sister Lúcia dos Santos of Fatima.
    Specifically, using the latest scientific means and expert consultation to find out whether or not there was the substitution of an impostor for the real Sister Lucy of Fatima during the years after 1958.

    All the investigations and results are accessible on this website:

    https://sisterlucyimposter.org

    If anyone would like to refute the results, please read the results of all the investigations and statements made by the professional investigators, before you do so.

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  5. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    It always puzzles me why there is so much ongoing debate about a conspiracy to use a fake sister Lucy.

    It was revealed that Our Lady asked for the faithful to make 5 First Saturdays in reparation for the sins against her.

    Even on this Catholic Forum, I have never found a profound interest in taking that revealed secret seriously. Of course there are souls on the Forum who do indeed practice the 5 First Saturdays devotion. But it should be one of the heaviest subscribed threads, if we really want to respond to Our Lady's request.

    It seems unfair to expend time and energy pointing the figure at the Hierarchy when the job assigned to us the laity is so poorly supported. Our Lord warned us, "let he who is without sin, cast the first stone." We the laity have failed to respond to Our Lady in making the 5 First Saturdays. We can't point the finger at the hierarchy. We have to pray more, fast more, make more sacrifices, and trust God to do the rest. IMHO
     
  6. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Maranatha

    Hi Julia,

    As a convert to our Faith, (going to be 11 years this Easter), I can say that no priest in the NO churches I've been to, ever talked about or made available the five First Saturdays devotion.
    This contrasts with the TLM community.

    I found out about it through my own readings about Fatima and also through this forum :love:.

    How can the faithful who have never heard of it fulfil our Lady's request?

    At the same time, there are many who like to remind us that there is no requirement to believe in private revelations, even one as great as Fatima.

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  7. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Ask 100 Catholics about the 5 first Saturday devotions you will be lucky to find one who can explain them or knows anything about them.
     
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  8. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Not ALL TLM communities are espousing this fake Lucy stuff. It’s something like Paul McCartney is dead and an imposter is in his place. Facial recognition and orthodontics.
    I do believe in Fatima and other private revelations, but it is true that we do not have to believe in them to be saved.
     
  9. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Maranatha

    Huh?
    I never said that the TLM community even mentions the possibility of an impostor Sr Lucy.

    What I did say is that the TLM community heeds our Lady's request for the first five Saturdays devotion.

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  10. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    You found out about it on your own. One can find anything on the internet except discernment.
     
  11. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Maranatha

    I don't know what you are getting at, HH.
    As a matter of fact, it was (our now departed) brother, Mac (Luke) who directed me to this Sister Lucy Truth project.

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  12. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    That doesn’t mean it’s correct.
     
  13. sunburst

    sunburst Powers

    It is always practiced and promoted at our TLM community and such a blessing to have. Our Pastor leads the meditations so beautifully.
    https://fssp.com/a-short-history-of-the-first-saturday-devotions/
     
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  14. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Maranatha

    Have you actually read all the reports and statements?

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  15. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    :)Are you telling me what to do?
     
  16. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Maranatha

    How can one decide whether or not there is truth in a matter being discussed unless one knows the facts being discussed?

    Please read the results of the professional investigations into the matter before you comment.
    I think that is only fair.

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  17. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    I am familiar with some of this info and I reject this whole concept.
    As I said before, it’s like saying Paul McCartney is dead and there’s an imposter. There are too many factors in being able to say these things about Sr Lucy.
    I also don’t believe everything I read.
    I am not interested in getting into a lengthy discussion of this matter. You seem to be very keenly interested in discussing this at length. I am not.
     
  18. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Maranatha

    HH, with all due respect, if you do not want to read the professional investigative reports, you are not in a position to comment on the veracity of the findings.

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  19. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    :p:D:ROFLMAO:
     
  20. Jason Fernando

    Jason Fernando Principalities

    Yeah, I want to make the First 5 Saturdays but there are so few and really very few who offer Confessions in Churches!
     
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