Prophesy - GSWYL

You told us two different things. Your take in 2016:

Here’s your response earlier this year:

You told us two different things.

This is beyond a misunderstanding about what you meant. You clearly flip flopped on the issue - seemingly because you forgot you posted something on your old forum.

 

Interesting, Cetus told you not to mention the priest’s names? How convenient.

The real issue is that you keep insisting that you had orthodox priests who reviewed the book - and the only priests that we know for sure reviewed it (since the name of the monastery was given, I wonder if it was by accident) are ones that support heretics.

The burden of proof is on you, and so far you have not shown shown any.

 

You still didn’t answer:

Do you have an addiction to the occult as you alluded to in your previous post?

 

Again, why do you attack the messenger and not the messages? Have you not found one, of the 54 messages, that you can say goes against scripture or church teaching that you can attack? It is sad, to say the least, to see an alleged messenger of God attacked, as if God cannot chose whom he wants to give his plans to (Amos 3:7). Especially when not one message can be found contrary to scripture or church teaching by the naysayers.

 

I have, glorified bodies error which is contrary to not only Church teaching - but also common sense.

You failed to answer, which seems to be a trend when there isn’t a good answer.

Scroll up.

 

Shame on you! Do you not believe in God's mercy and forgiveness? Have you never sinned and been forgiven. Will God not deal with you the same!?

 

For starters:
https://motheofgod.com/threads/prophesy-gswyl.11827/page-45#post-317582

 

And what is contrary to scripture or church teaching? You too have failed to answer that question.

 

Yes that was me. The church was using leavened bread for hosts and one time walnut fruit breads for the hosts.

 

Read Revelations 20 and you will see it is you in error and not the message.

 

Fatima, THE PERSON WHO MAKES THE CLAIM SHOWS THE EVIDENCE. This is how it works.

Why did you drive hours to a different city to quiz a church secretary? I am not at all in favor of invalid matter, but surely it was a bit out of your way, and the secretary clearly the wrong person to confront. In particular, how did this get covered by Church Militant?

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Amen! Thank you, Heavenly Hosts. The treatment of Verne is uncharitable.

This is no longer a charitable discussion, this is a whack-a-mole exercise, which has as its goal to close this thread.

 

You have not made your case. What specifically is contrary to scripture or church teaching in that message??

 

I actually work also in the AZ state prisons and drive around Az as an independent contractor. I hap[pened to be working in Tuscon at that time.

 

Fatima, I am truly sorry for you, and the way you look at the world. Always seeing doom, always preaching doom, always threatening doom to naysayers. Go to the Vatican website and read the guidelines on how to assess private revelation. It will at least be a start for you.

 

It has nothing to do with believing in God’s mercy - We are talking about Catholic norms of discernment. This is a huge issue.

https://udayton.edu/imri/mary/n/norms-for-private-revelations.php

2) The second norm deals with the personal qualities of the subjects who claim to have had the apparition; they must be mentally sound, honest, sincere, of upright conduct, obedient to ecclesiastical authorities, able to return to the normal practices of the faith (such as participation in communal worship, reception of the sacraments).


Honesty is an issue, so I’m asking clarifying questions relating to that.

Upright conduct? Occult addiction and saying yes to satan during the time period of messages is a big problem.

Obedient to authorities? I guess we’ll never know since Cletus told him not to tell us who they are...

This is not a personal attack, these are the norms for discernment according to our faith.

 

How do we get glorified bodies back before satan’s final attack against us that brings an end to human history?

It is not possible.

 

And how about the rest of the story: Why was this brought to the attention of Church Militant? Was this at all related to the messages you've been receiving?

 

Your action there was an act of spiritual mercy. Thank God.

 

The answer is it became a habitual sin as any sin can. The more one practices sin the more “addicted” or the more difficult to break the sinful habit. Remember many of us have habitual sins. Only through much prayer, confession, and reception of the Eucharist, can many break their habitual sins. This applied to me also.