2016 Presidential Election Thread

I wish I could share your optimism that anything good for our nation is in the making. While some movements look promising, I think the bigger picture is not good. I'm not seeing anything specific, but it's just my gut feeling.

I see a lot of wishful thinking ....understandably so considering recent appointments. I'm just not feeling good for the global bigger picture. Just my humble opinion.

 

At the 11 minute segment, Mattis frowns on leaders having a mid-life crisis, saying: "You're there to give the enemy a mid-life crisis! I hate war, but if you're a soldier in one, fight to win.

Safe in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary!

 

I agree, FP; Charlie's "date of vindication" rapidly approaches. Why waste our time? The verdict is almost in.

Safe in the Refuge of the Immaculate Heart!

 

Good ole Jill Flakenstein. Only outdone by Gary Aleppo.

 

Questioning someone who calls himself our "Sherpa" is not always and everywhere heresy. While I agree with Mario that the pull date on these messages is approaching, it is never a waste of time to point out inconsistencies in the statements of someone who claims to be Heaven-sent.

I don't see wiggle room below. Charlie agrees with both these assertions. You can't argue he is a political and journalistic whiz and just wish away these errors.

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Charlie, another unrelated question for you that I thought about yesterday. Do you still think that Obama will not finish his term and that there will be no presidential election held next year?

That is a definitive statement and not subject to change, FP.

http://motheofgod.com/threads/someone-must-be-wrong.8202/page-2#post-105045

FP, why don't you produce the comprehensive list of Charlie's startlingly accurate predictions asked for earlier in the thread?

 

The electoral college is not the entire political process. First of all, Trump does not come from the political process. Maybe that's what the CJ prophecy meant. And Trump does not have the popular vote, so the left is planning to go against the process. And we are witnessing it now with Stein, as well as, an unprecedented protest in the millions on Inauguration Day. I mean who would have thought that all of this would occur a year ago? CJ's prophecy may not come out exactly how he thinks it may come out, but then who thought Joey was going to die before the miracle of Garabandal? Joey's interpretation of seeing again was not what he thought. Prophecy and human interpretation may not coincide. But that does not mean CJ is a fake. Christmas for the first Christians in history in the Middle East is no longer happening. The West may still have Christmas, but that's not the same story for others. CJ is a good Christian, but he's human.

 

This Charlie character sounds like a false prophet. Didn't his local bishop issue a warning over him?

 

I admit that I have been behind Mr. Trump's campaign from the early stages. He is unafraid and that is something so rare in a political person. He looked at the Mexico/U.S. border to access the situation. He flew to Mexico City to speak with the President of Mexico about trade and immigration. He withstood millions of dollars worth of negative advertising about his character and decisions and yet he won the election. Millions of Americans cast their votes for him of their own free will knowing that Mr. Trump would make decisions to make our country more pro-life than it has been. This can only be seen as a plus. Now that he has won the election, some overzealous supporters have elevated his thinking skills and decision making to ultra human status. Mr. Trump is a person with flaws just like any other person. We may not elevate him to some status that he is unworthy of. We pray to God to guide his decisions so that we can live in peace. That being said, the alignment of nevertrumpers with democrats to try upend the election is annoying. Mr. Johnston appears to be a nevertrumper. Harper gave evidence that Mr. Johnston frequently posted comments on National Review political articles. The National Review was known to be nevertrump for almost the entirety of the campaign. One thing we know is that this election has shown that a huge number of journalists (including those that write for National Review) have been paid off to write biased articles to influence the electorate. Pollsters were paid off, journalists have been paid off and who is not to say that some self proclaimed prophets may have been paid off to influence voters...we just don't know....do we....because when we ask Johnston supporters to critically think about him and give his biography they balk, they're dismissive, and they say we're rude. Thank you Ms. Harper for your posts. I am a neverjohnston

 

I don't think Johnston was an all out journalist against Trump. He was always certain that Clinton and Sanders would not become President. Also, don't believe Johnston is a neocon. His politics are very close to those of us who disagree with all the costly and never ending wars and the nation building. I started reading more intently on his writings when he mentioned Russia as a future partner to the U.S. against ISIS. His assessment towards China has been so spot on. In other words, he peeked my curiosity when most if not all supposed GOP conservatives were shouting against Russia's foreign policy. I think it took guts for him to go against the majority. Whether he's a false prophet or not, I don't really know. But I do agree with his politics.

 

No doubt. There's just a few weeks left to proven right or wrong, I Trust God and am completely at peace with whatever God's Will is and His design will reign. But there's a reason why a few constantly attack Charlie. He will be proven false, or be proven true by January 20th, there is no grey area. I am completely at peace with it. I wonder why a few others aren't? Why are they so agitated, why are they constantly accusing, why do they have no peace? I know many people who follow Charlie and I read the posts on his blog by people who follow Charlie. They are charitable, kind people who exhibit Christ's Peace.

By their fruits you will know them.

Then I see one person in particular here who is very agitated, has picked fights with several long time members on this forum, and constantly spreads disharmony and is constantly accusing and agitating.

I know where Peace and Charity come from. One who is at peace is close to God and Truth.

And I know where disharmony, agitation, unrest, fear, uncertainty, and doubt come from, that's old skinny legs calling card.

I will continue to pray that those who have no peace and sow fear, uncertainty, and doubt instead learn to Trust God and find Peace in their hearts

 

You and many others have said that. That Trump fits the mold of "coming from outside the political process". But Charlie has said many times that no, that's not an "out" for him. If Trump becomes President on January 20th, then Charlie is a false prophet and he will remove himself from the scene never to be hear from again. There's no wiggle room or grey area on that.

 

But FP what about the list of amazing accurate predictions? I mean, if you have time to call names and label posters, surely, you can write up a quick list.

What are you so afraid of when others point out issues about Charlie? Posts offering countervailing arguments and facts are dismissed with vicious ad hominem attacks. Perhaps you should go back to the Discerning Apparitions/Charlie threads and look at your and CrewDog's posts attacking anyone hinting at disbelief and then discuss "disharmony, agitation, unrest, fear, uncertainty and doubt."

ETA: For me, Charlie is a public figure. He's put himself out there and begs for attention. His dire predictions are the kind of thing that need to be discussed by Catholics. I have no problems, no qualms, no angst with the research I've done and the questions I've posed. The overheated, overwrought responses to posts get me going, however.

 

Trump's liking for staunch military men amongst his cabinet appointments is very prudent. It sends a discrete, but unambiguous, message to those on the wilder shores of the left that any coup attempt before or during the inauguration can very likely expect pushback from some or most likely all the military. When you add in the vast majority of the police and all the 'crewdogs' with their bibles and guns, it is difficult to foresee how the left can succeed. They'll need to be able for more than 'micro-aggressions', that's for sure.

 

Totally agree. But this also came to me last night . . . the progressive/globalist crowd is also looking at these appointments and thinking "we're done for" when Trump gets in. These appointments heighten the danger and risks as it pushes the left into a corner, methinks

 

Totally agree. They are all freaking out.

 

Yes. See: http://www.ncregister.com/daily-new...ston-continues-ministry-despite-denver-archdi
Also: http://us12.campaign-archive1.com/?u=335332b58bd4d41fdbc327a17&id=e91e1eb696&e=4eeb4e1561
Plus bishops in New Orleans, Illinois, North Dakota, etc.

 

Yes, but which side is in most danger? At best, the left will be bringing a knife to a gunfight. Such a catharsis might be the best remedy for everyone.

 

I agree with you, I'm locked and loaded here as are most of my buddies and they would be picking on the wrong guys.

But one thing that Charlie talked about a lot in the past year was when things go south, the ones who are going to be most lost/desperate/frantic are going to be the anti-God left, as they have no Faith. And that's where he constantly urged everyone that WE are going to have to be the ones Our Lord and Our Lady have taught us to be, the kind ones who open our arms to them and not slam our doors, but open them up and show them God's Mercy and that is what will bring them back to God.

That is easier said than done as I'm pretty pissed off at all the crap they've put us through, but this is where the rubber is going to meet the road and if attacked I'll defend my family, but if they're just freaking out and not an imminent threat then this is where we'll need to bring them in and offer comfort and shelter, and bring them to Christ by showing them His Love through us. Prayerfully hopefully God will have an outpouring of His Spirit upon us to help us be His kind hands and feet to those poor lost souls and not lash back against them for what they have wrought

 

Harper, it's not over until the fat lady sings.......

 

Please God, many will see their sight restored when they realise their former beliefs are worthless. In their despair they will hopefully be very glad to find some concrete truths and very grateful to hear them explained. Of course, one need only extend mercy to the repentant.