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Discussion in 'Books, movies, links, websites.' started by Phillip, Jul 5, 2013.

  1. Phillip

    Phillip Angels

    I used to be really into horror films. I have found, however, that since I began my journey to the Catholic faith several years ago I have less and less of a taste for them. It's almost like I have regained the ability to be disgusted and disturbed by that sort of stuff.
     
  2. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Yes these are excellent. I know some people are wary of Fr Malachi's writings because he left the priesthood but with that rider I love his story telling. The things he speaks of are inclined to stay in my mind forever. Stories are fine but what he tells was factual.
     
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  3. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Yes I would say that is natural Phillip. I do not like them myself. In fact I went through a period, a long period when I would not read any secular novels at all and this from a person who used to get through two or three a week.:)

    Several years ago I threw out my TV thank God and this has been a great blessing.


    I would recommend anyone if they can find the courage to toss out their TV in the dump, it is the one eyed monster.
     
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  4. picadillo

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    Yes these are excellent. I know some people are wary of Fr Malachi's writings because he left the priesthood

    Padraig,
    Do you mean he left the Jesuit order and gave up his vows of poverty,obedience,etc?
     
  5. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Yes he did, Pal and became a writer. I think he lived in New York. I forget why he left. So many, many priests left at that time , it was like a deluge. But you notice in later pictures of him he was always in lay clothes.

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  6. picadillo

    picadillo Guest

    You may be correct but it was always my impression that he asked and received from Pope Paul VI a release of his vows of obedience (because he was going to write about the apostasy he saw among the Jesuits and that is a special vow they take,etc) and poverty because he was going to have to support himself but not chastity (some would question that). While he was not incardinated by any bishop in the US (neither was Fr. Fiore after Bernadin through him out of Chicago and not one bishop in the US would incardinate him so he could use his priestly facutiies, he had to get incardinated by a bishop in Puerto Rico), I was told by Fr. Fiore that Fr. Martin was indeed a bishop (possibly a cardinal in pectore). On this Fr. Fiore told me he had seen pictures of him in his bishop garb and had parachuted behind the iron curtain to give certain seminarians there ordination in secret. Anyway, it seemed to me at the end of his life he was associated more with the traditional sects of catholicism, as was Fr Fiore who went to The Fraternity of St Peter and Paul because he only wanted to say the mass in Latin but stay inside the official church. Coincidently Fr. Alfred Kunz was also very much into the traditional liturgy like St. Padre Pio whom I believe received special dispensation not to say the novus ordo. Anyway, I could be wrong but I know a lot of people have it out for Fr. Martin for a variety of reasons and he told me he agreed to be set up as a "bad guy".
     
  7. Mac

    Mac Guest

    Has anyone read Windswept House by Fr Martin? I read the first few chapters which show how Satan was enthroned in Rome. Frightning stuff. While only a novel this can be taken as truth?
     
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  8. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Well Fr Malachi is something of a mystery man. It is said he worked for the Vatican Secret Service, he was also a Perititi (special advisor) during Vatican 2. He seems to have known a lot of secrets.

    Because of his writings I would say he was a good man.

    On the other hand leaving the priesthodd, no matter what the reasons...well....Pope Paul 6 was said to have regretted letting priest leave at that period....

    http://religioscope.info/article_67.shtml
     
  9. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I am not condeming the Father for this, just it is a cause of unease for myself and others. Now suppose Padre Pio had left the priesthood what would we think of him then?
     
  10. Mac

    Mac Guest

    Yes, and suspicious circumstances surrounding his death? Just before another novel blew the lid off corruption, or just an urban legend?
     
  11. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I don't really know, it is such a den of worms. But certainly given his knowledge it is entirely possible he could have been murdered.

    I am always surprised how openly people talk about certain subjects on the internet, they show a great innocense. A lot of stuff can get you killed.

    I think from his writings Fr Malachi knew this himself.
     
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  12. Mac

    Mac Guest

    Thanks for the link Padraig, and not the first time Ive seen this.Probably yes.
     
  13. picadillo

    picadillo Guest

    Mac,
    Winswept House, believe it or not was responsible for my reversion to catholism, is written in in a literary style called faction. It was done with the corraboration of three priests, Fr's Martin,Fiore, and Kunz. They liked to call themselves the troika as I can recall. I was told it is 90% true and I have personally confirmed almost all of it. You can get the literal translations of people,places,etc off the internet. Fr. Fiore gave me a copy years ago. It is a book written in fiction but based on facts.Fr. Kunz was murdered, Fr. Martin's death was suspicious as was Fr. Fiore's but his health was poor anyway. All saints in my book.
     
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  14. Mac

    Mac Guest

    I am just reading some more traditional sites take on Fr Martin [which I wont link here] but he sounds more like a double agent , rather than a saint. I just cant work him out.
     
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  15. Phillip

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    "Rev. Wojciech Giertych, O.P., the Theologian of the Papal Household, last week echoed the words of Pope Benedict when he said, “the best way of treating people with dignity is to tell them the truth, and if we escape from the truth, we are not treating them with dignity.” This truth, which is blunt, precise, and difficult to hear, yet honoring of man’s dignity, is that “homosexuality is against human nature.”

    http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2013/07/11/papal-theologian-on-gay-identity/
     
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  16. picadillo

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    What the traditionalists hate him for is his supposed effect on Vatican II on the document Nostra Aetate, our relationship with other religions most notably jews. He is basically being accused of being a zionist shill to change church teaching on judaism. Also to further discredit him they accuse him of being unchaste. Also, because the satanic ceremony (as per Windswept House) happened before Vatican II, and since they are traditionalists they hate that because everything before V II was "pure". The ceremony may be the reason Our Blessed Mother wanted the Third Secret of Fatima released before 1960 interestingly enough.
     
  17. Lumena

    Lumena Guest

    The following was written by Bernard Janzen, (Triumph Communications)

    re : "Denying Fr. Martin’s Priesthood"

    "A characteristic of the personal attacks on Malachi Martin is that they are built on sand, in the sense that they are continually shifting. At first, many of the attacks on Fr. Martin focused on the premise of doubting his status as a priest. There were rumors that Fr. Martin had left the priesthood and got married. It was frequently stated that he no longer had the faculties to function as a priest. The effectiveness of these attacks came to an end after Fr. Martin’s death, when Fr. Vincent O’Keefe, a former vicar-general of the Jesuit order, stated that Fr. Martin had received a dispensation to release him from his vows of poverty and obedience, but not chastity. He stated that Fr. Martin remained a valid priest all of his life and had never married. Fr. O’Keefe was vicar-general at the time that Fr. Martin left the Jesuits. Thus, Fr. Martin left the Jesuits, but not the priesthood. He was secularized, not laicized. He continued to say Mass privately. The information that Fr. O’Keefe released was exactly what Fr. Martin had told me during our interviews."

    Certainly, I heard Father Martin say this many times in various interviews over the years. I also heard him state that he offered Mass each and every day, in a private chapel in Manattan, New York. As part of that "Troika" with Fr. Kunz and Fr. Fiore, he was literally risking his life to expose Satanists in the highest echelons. Therefore, there would naturally follow attacks on his reputation, notwithstanding doubts cast re his status as a priest.

    To be honest, I think that more work would need to be done to truly clear the matter up once and for all, because there are those who claim the existence of documentation to the contrary. The Superior of the Jesuits knew the truth and finally made a statement about it but it is possible that Fr Martin's enemies in the Vatican had created documentation which effectively destroyed this truth, because:

    "... the Holy See will confirm if asked, that "In 1965, Mr. Martin received a dispensation from all privileges and obligations deriving from his vows as a Jesuit and from priestly ordination." [Congregation for Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life, 25 June 1997, Prot. N. 04300/65]."

    ...the above quote is taken from the EWTN statement on Fr Martin which can be found at : http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/malachi_martin.htm

    - see here for the full article from Bernard Janzen "In Defence of Malachi Martin":
    http://www.triumphcommunications.net/9indefenseofmalachimartin.html

    Fr Martin always described himself as an exorcist and it would seem that to perform exorcisms, one must have Priestly faculties. It would also seem that the permission of one's Bishop is required. (Though it would be hard to see how this regulation would play out if, say, a band of Priests arrived in a distant outpost of a Pagan nation and began baptising the native converts and simultaneously casting out the devils who would no doubt be manifesting themselves.)

    For example, in the early days here in NZ arrived a band of Marist Fathers from France, with their Bishop, to introduce the Gospel to the Native Maori people. Their outpost was in a desolate place and they then had to travel singly, across forest and dense bush for weeks on end, fording rivers, sleeping on the ground out in the elements - you know the drill - all to bring the Sacraments to various peoples, both Maori and European colonists. If an exorcism was required, there would be no possibility of seeking permission from the Bishop before performing it. Would they not have been given a blanket permission before setting off? Therefore it seems to me that a Bishop could give a blanket permission to a Priest, if he saw fit.

    What also comes to mind is the scene in this film,




    in which a possessed woman enters the Church and Padre Pio exorcises the demon, right there, on the spot. I can not claim to know that this really happened, but I imagine in Padre Pio's life, similar things happened many times. i.e. that he may not always have sought permission of the Bishop, prior to performing an exorcism, for reasons of practicality. Needless to say, I'm just speculating here.

    I have not yet verified this, but evidently the Priest who was the Chief exorcist in the Archdiocese of New York, while Fr Martin was alive, (a certain Fr Lebar), claimed Fr Martin never had the permission to perform exorcisms in New York and that only the Team would be able to do exorcisms in the Archdiocese of New York. Evidently Fr Lebar also stated that between the years of 1965 and 1995, there had not been ONE SINGLE EXORCISM performed in the Archdiocese of New York, to his knowlege. This is ludicrous. It may of course be true in an official sense but, if true, it is very frightening indeed that things could become so lax that the devils had free reign for 30 years in such a place as the state of New York.
     
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  18. Lumena

    Lumena Guest

    While I personally cannot verify whether or not Fr Martin truly wrote the following, it is attributed to him:

    "A letter written by Father Malachi Martin addressing the attacks from critics prior to his death."

    ..."I am sending you these few lines as my commentary on the abuse and calumnies flung in my direction by certain members of our Roman Catholic Church. Many of my friends and well-wishers have urged me to respond to the abusers and the calumniators; and remember that this abuse and calumnious attack has been going on for over thirty-three years! That is a long time; and I have become a veteran of such oppression, so much so that in a certain sense I know much better than any of my friends and well-wishers how to deal with this sustained harsh treatment...

    The basic lesson I have learnt over those thirty-three years is: not allow myself be diverted from fulfilling my mission as a priest and a servant of the Holy See of Peter. This means not merely refusing to pick up the stones thrown at me and returning them on the heads of my abusers. It means principally that I fulfill my duties as a priest celebrate daily Mass, recite my breviary, fulfill my pastoral obligations to those under my care. It means that I never allow the distortions doctrinal and other of these very zealous abusers and calumniators to enter into my optic or cloud my angle of vision. It means, of course, praying for their spiritual welfare and also that the Holy Spirit grant them some measure of understanding. For understanding is chiefly what lacks to them.

    Well over twenty-five years ago, I wrote to my Superior in Rome complaining about a recrudescence of these attacks, and suggesting a certain course"

    Full text of said letter here:
    http://www.sanctepater.com/2009/04/letter-written-by-father-malachi-martin.html

    And regarding his death, according to author Hugh Atkins, who knew him personally, "There were many indications that the cause of Fr. Martin’s death was assassination, including the disappearance of the unfinished manuscript and his own final words that he’d been pushed down a flight of stairs while in his wheelchair. He was not able to identify the assailant who attacked from behind."
     
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  19. Lumena

    Lumena Guest

    Another thought, Picadillo- if he was, in fact, a Bishop, presumably then he would not need permission to perform exorcisms. Interesting... and coming from Fr Fiore, it holds a lot of weight.
     
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  20. Lumena

    Lumena Guest

    ;) ok, is the first letter of your Christian name "S" then? (Enquiring minds need to know.);)
     
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