Wars and rumors of wars on the TLM and Summorum Pontificum”?

Discussion in 'Pope Francis' started by BrianK, May 26, 2021.

  1. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    In fact, PE Benedict said that he was no longer Pope.
     
  2. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

    Gotcha, I was confused by how a valid Pope could make a claim to the Papacy. I am guessing this has to do with the times when there were multiple popes.
     
  3. Michael_Pio

    Michael_Pio Archangels

    Thank you for clarifying!
     
  4. Michael_Pio

    Michael_Pio Archangels

    Well, he called himself Pope, even though he added "emeritus". Something unheard of up to 2013.
     
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  5. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    It's all beyond our paygrade, but there are apparently many in the Church, who occupy the paygrade, uninterested in what appears to be a case that ought be answered.

    Pope Benedict might not have claimed to be a valid pope after his resignation, but if his resignation itself was invalid, the case made by Barnhardt, then he remained Pope whether or not he claimed to be one or not. Combined with the activities of the St. Gallen 'mafia', legitimate questions are raised about the whole affair.
     
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  6. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    The Church authorities have been following a course that mitigates against vocations to the priesthood for several decades, asking the laity to pray for them, making it possible to suspect that this sets the latter up for the blame. This policy is now stepping up a gear.

    It can't all be foolishness. There is a huge segment of the Church actively pursuing Her destruction. One twelfth of the Apostles was a Judas...what's the ratio currently?
     
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  7. AED

    AED Powers

    Absolutely. The white casock and emeritus title seem to contradict the whole resignation along with the strange wording in his official abdication. Only God can sort this out.
     
  8. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Let's pray that He does so soon.
     
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  9. padraig

    padraig Powers

    There are rumours of banning the Eastern Rite too. So there is one single Rite.

    Incredible.
     
  10. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    This could move us further away from the Orthodox Church. In a way, it would go against the Second Vatican Council.
     
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  11. AED

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  12. AED

    AED Powers

    As my grandkids would "Wack- a- doodle!"
     
  13. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

    This makes sense, they would get rid of all of the alternative rites. Because when they make the move to get rid of the eucharist, priests could just practice alternative rites. By having only one rite, they then can make sweeping changes across the board.
     
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  14. LMF

    LMF Archangels

    Is 7:23 And it shall come to pass in that day, that every place where there were a thousand vines, at a thousand pieces of silver, shall become thorns and briers.
     
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  15. LMF

    LMF Archangels

    It's blatantly noticeable here. Has been for years. Everything appeared to be about "recruiting" permanent deacons, which is not bad in itself, but there's been more leave the priesthood in the last 10-15 yrs than have been ordained (1, this past May). Sad.

    It's occurred to me recently that the Bishops were called to protect their flocks, to feed their sheep, to support each other in this God given calling. Somewhere along the line this turned, for many, into protecting each other more so than their own flocks, under some misguided notion that the Church would be protected. The notion of "collegiality" just furthers this error. The Bishops alone do not make up The Church.

    Imho, that's why we're seeing some of the most unbelievably gross statements coming from Vatican "communications".
     
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  16. AED

    AED Powers

    I just have to keep reminding myself we are occupied territory. The enemyhas taken the high ground. We have to go underground and be spiritual saboteurs through our prayers and sacrifices and our resistance. Viva Cristo Ray!
     
  17. LMF

    LMF Archangels

    Love that!!
     
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  18. padraig

    padraig Powers

    The Orthodox have already turned their backs on us for blessing people Pope Frankie charmingly called faggots. Twice

    The Coptics now want nothing to do with us either .

    I can't say I blame them.

    I think they believe we have switched sides to Satan and maybe we have
     
  19. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Most Catholics have had absolutely no say in almost all of this. Everything has been imposed upon us, whether we like it or not, since Vatican II. Maybe obedience was overestimated.

    How much infiltration by the Soviets actually happened? It seems like they succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.
     

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