Visions And Prophecies of Fr. Oliveira

I suppose it doesn't really matter but your initial post in this thread does lead to his blog.

 

Another point I wanted to make regarding those prophecies is the focus on 2029. Interesting in connection with fatima and the 1929 messge of Jesus to Lucia and its comparison with Louis XIV France 1689

 

I need someone to walk me through some of these prophecies, I think that I have prophecy block right now. Lol

I suppose I’m trying to fit what he says in with Garabandal. I think that he is saying that the Chastisement ends in 2029 but does he predict the time of the Warning? Thank you @BrianK

 

Gosh, didn’t expect that level of a reply! Thanks to you, Brian, and please pass on my thanks to whomever took the time to write this.

It doesn’t, however, relieve my concern. Heaven speaks in a way which is always deeply literal as well as figurative, and the primacy of “o mal” at the beginning of what the visionary thinks is the main message is odd, using “cresce” is even stranger. This doesn’t mean evil spreads, it doesn’t mean evil becomes more prominent, it means evil grows, which is impossible because evil is inherently sterile.

In common parlance it wouldn’t bother me that much, but I don’t think a heavenly messenger would phrase it that way.

 

I certainly identify an understanding of some of the messages of Fr Oliveria as they speak of things that most Catholics believe in their hearts at this point in time. Like you Brian I have reservations regarding these messages, not just because, they speak in positive lights regarding Pope Francis, nor because they speak of the mark of the beast as possibly a virtuous thing if those that receive this mark help or save those that do not get the mark. My main problem with these messages is in alingment with any name you wish.

ANYW, I understand your hesitancy with these prophesies, your points are valid but in addition I would like to add to this that Fr Oliveria has also repeated near word for word the same scenario of Fr Michel Rodrigue of Canada.

In Fr Oliveria's May 12, 2020 inner locution during a retreat, he reiterates the prophesy given by Fr Michel Rodrigue.

That being the necessity for the faithful to be called to refuges by the light of a flame from our guardian angel and we will have the mark of the cross on our foreheads, we will be safe in these refuges because God will provide supernatural things such as food, we will also have priests who will bilocate to give us holy communion.

Maybe both priests are correct!

Maybe this supernatural event will happen and we good Catholics will be lead by this flame, to the secure and evil untouchable refuges.

In my mind a little bit like the protestant rapture but in this case we Catholics will escape martyrdom, because we are so close to Jesus and His most blessed mother, therefore unlike Jesus and His blessed Mother we will be spared martyrdom and suffering!?
What!
I can't figure!

I know that with prayer we give ourselves the best chance to survive in unprecedented times, like St Maximillian Kolby, St Edith Stein, St John the baptise, St Peter and St Paul however if God wills our return to Him, we can not depend on our saintliness nor on a refuge; this is all in Gods hands!

Some of Fr Michel Rodrigue prophesies can be found here.....https://www.countdowntothekingdom.com/fr-michel-rodrigue-the-time-of-the-refuges/

 

Well for what it's worth I understood it in this sense. Evil grows. Yes evil grows but in a negative manner. That is, evil having no substance of its own is parasitic, it is pure privation. It grows in the sense that what ought to be good has become deformed, corrupted, twisted. What should be for goodness, truth, beauty and unity is now at the service of evil, lies, ugliness, disunity. And these have certainly "grown" in our day.

 

Well said.

 

Isn't evil a lack of goodness? God cannot be evil, and He is everywhere. But if He is rejected, the goodness goes with Him, does evil moves in to fill the void left? So, maybe it isn't so much that evil grows, but spreads to fill the void left where Goodness is rejected? idk

 

I would have thought that anyone reading the signs of the times would have agreed that evil is spreading. I think we can get too bogged down in semantics here. The power of evil certainly seems to be growing as weeds among the wheat flourish in the relevant soil.

As for the ‘positive’ references to PF - I may be playing with semantics here but Francis isn’t named. Will he still be pope in 2029?

I do like these prophecies as they are not over wordy and they are specific. They can be proved wrong. The prophecies I have no time for are rambling and vague, allowing the reader to put their own interpretation on them in the light of events. That’s just my personal take and I could easily be wrong. I fell for Charlie Johnson so I try to be more wary these days. Nevertheless I like Fr Oliveira, he seems humble and I don’t think he is attention seeking.

 

Same here. And I haven't written off Fr Rodrigue either, but "keep a distance", sort of. The two bishops who had authority over him never condemned his writing/prophesy. They more or less said they didn't believe such things at all and basically told him to shut up (my take anyway). One of them shortly after supporting the other, resigned under strange circumstances.
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/...signs-at-age-of-64-for-the-good-of-the-church
The bishops in Fr Rodrigue's case, did not do their job, while Archbishop Acquila, in the case of Mr. Johnson did do his.

Fr Oliveira comes across, to me anyway, as sincere. My question is whether he has ever had contact with Fr Rodrigue, given the similarities of the messages.

 

Yes evil is a lack. The term used traditionally is privation. What ought be there is not. Being/existence is good so in this respect even old nick himself having being and being held in being is an aspect of the good. Evil itself is a deformation of what exists. Evil as such has no positive independent existence of its own since it is privation. A Good will and a malevolent will. Both exist but the latter is an abuse a debasement of the former.

 

Thank you for this ~

 

Yes. That’s the beauty of open discussion. It helps discernment. I didn't realize how closely they resembled Fr Rodrigue's revelations. Uneasy.

 

Uneasy, yes

 

The biggest issue for me with Fr Rodrigue is that he traveled the US with John Leary on speaking tours. John Leary’s bishop ruled that his messages were not supernatural.

 

Yes that is a biggie for me. John leary if you read his stuff. Wow. I feel the same about father Rodrique. I do believe the Holy Spirit will lead us to Safety but alot of his writings don't sit well with me. Prayers and discernment are needed.