Didn't she say that it will start there and that Russia will do something unexpected? What would be unexpected in regards to Russia? Certainly not continuing to support socialist strong men. We all expect that to continue. At a time when the US is experiencing internally the biggest political crisis and scandal in our nations history. Hmmmmm.
I can't remember what she said other than something about it all starting in Venezuela. Unexpected could mean anything like, for example, Putin telling Maduro to step down and having him transported to Moscow on one of those military planes. If we could predict what Russia will do, it would't really be unexpected.
If such a thing occurs I don't think that it will be considered unexpected by anyone who has read these visions. Those who have not would likely be surprised by this though. The same thought cam to my mind, having Maduro step down and leave peacefully. We will see. I just hope that whatever comes the situation there de escalates and the people of VZ do not suffer by war the destruction of their families, society, and culture. That was why I was glad to see the Vatican trying to de escalate the situation at least a bit by remaining neutral and trying to continue to find a common ground on which to open talks.
I can't remember anything other then her saying it would all start here. Mysterious it seemed thirty years ago when, during an interview in Caracas (see The Bridge to Heaven), mystic Maria Esperanza, whose apparition site was formally approved by the Church, said about her own homeland of Venezuela: “It will start here.” Revisiting A Prophecy
I'm all in support of the Monroe Doctrine and all, but it seems a little ridiculous for the United States to say we can have armed forces in every country bordering Russia, but they can't have 100 soldiers in a country that isn't even on the same continent as us. Ura Pobeda!
P., The following article may help you understand a bit better or maybe not. Trump administration warns Russia against troop buildup in Venezuela By Franco Ordonez | March 25, 2019 12:26 PM | https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article228377779.html WASHINGTON - Secretary of State Mike Pompeo called the Russian foreign minister on Monday to tell him the United States won’t “stand idly by” as Russia sends military forces to Venezuela. Pompeo warned Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov that Russia was exacerbating tensions in Venezuela and undermining efforts to restore democracy in the South American nation, Robert Palladino, a State Department spokesman, said. “The continued insertion of Russian military personnel to support the illegitimate regime of Nicolas Maduro in Venezuela risks prolonging the suffering of the Venezuelan people who overwhelmingly support interim President Juan Guaidó,” Palladino said. The United States and regional allies became concerned this weekend when Russian planes landed in Caracas. Venezuelan journalists reported that about 100 Russian soldiers arrived on the planes. The Russian personnel were involved in training and military cooperation with their Venezuelan counterparts. The once mighty oil-rich nation of Venezuela is mired in an economic and humanitarian crisis that has led to hyperinflation and widespread shortages of food and medicine. More than three million people have fled the country across the hemisphere. After the United States imposed sanctions meant to punish Maduro’s government for steamrolling democratic institutions, Caracas has been desperate to find new ways to get cash and other forms of international support. “Clearly, Maduro’s enablers in Moscow and Havana are pushing continued escalation with the end-goal of crushing the opposition once-and-for-all,” said José Cárdenas, who served in the National Security Council under former President George W. Bush and regularly speaks with Trump administration officials. “They also want to deplete the peaceful options at the disposal of the U.S.-led international effort to promote change in Venezuela and then dare them to contemplate the worst option: military intervention.” Russia has helped Venezuela on several occasions to make billions of dollars worth in debt payments. The Russian state oil firm Rosneft also holds a 49.9 percent stake in the Venezuelan-owned, U.S.-based refinery Citgo following a $1.5 billion loan from the Russian company. Just weeks ago, Venezuela’s Vice President Delcy Rodriguez announced that state-run oil company, PDVSA, would move its European headquarters to Moscow from Lisbon. Earlier this month, Pompeo blamed the Russian government along with Cuba for propping up Maduro and thwarting efforts by the Venezuelan people to restore democracy. He criticized Russia for vetoing a U.N.-sponsored resolution to allow aid to be delivered to the Venezuelan people and accused Russian leaders of using its state sponsored media outlets of attempts to “divert attention from the humanitarian disaster.” He said Russia has provided more than $17 billion in loans and investments and helped the Maduro regime convert gold to cash. “The Kremlin is standing with its Venezuelan cronies against the will of the people of a sovereign nation to protect a Moscow-friendly regime,” Pompeo said at that time. Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/na...venezuela/article228377779.html#storylink=cpy *** Are the Russian troops going to help clear the roadways or maybe they are going to help restore the power.
I understand why we don't want them there. I'm just also saying I understand why they don't want us in Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Ukraine, Turkey, Kazakhstan, and Japan. All of which directly border Russia. Not to mention three times as many countries more we are in that are closer to Russia than Venezuela is to us. I think if Russia had thousands of troops lined up on the Mexican and Canadian borders with the USA we would be more than a little put out. The left wing governments of Venezuela have been a century long ally of Russia. Though I disagree with the politics, at least they stand by their allies.
I agree with Praetorian and others that we can't entirely separate Divine Apparitions from Current International Affairs, especially because Heaven through Our Lord or Our Lady, or sometimes some Angel or Saint, gives us guidance and direction in what to pray for and what policies are right and pleasing to God and which aren't. When the North Korea situation was defused last year, many people felt Our Lady's hand behind the scenes working for World Peace was clearly evident. Those apparitions that say everything leading up to world war 3 perhaps may all begin in Venezuela may well be true, but I haven't given up hope yet. According to some reported ongoing apparitions, Our Lady Co-Redemptrix as "Our Lady of All Nations" has asked the US and Russia to begin to work together, saying the time is right for an alliance. "The future of world peace is in the hands of the Redeemer’s powerful prayerful warriors to bring about a peace agreement between Russia and the United States and a defeat of the new world order that is the work of satan. The people of the world must also pray for China and the people of China for the direction that China is now taking makes China the greatest threat to world peace, just as I had predicted to many of God’s children who listen to my messages to bring about world peace. So the future is now clear for those of you who are the prayerful warriors of My Son, Jesus Christ. You must pray powerfully that the Pontiff in Rome receives the discernment to understand what it is that God the Father wants to bring about world peace and eventually a New Heaven and A New Earth. The people of the world must also pray powerfully that the leaders of Russia and the United States meet peacefully and come to an agreement that will usher in a world peace and defeat the minions of satan and their new world order. https://maryrefugeofholylove.com/20...-leadership-of-these-two-great-countries-the/ I think both the US and Russia let the game slip a little after Our Lady, through the Church, through Catholic Poland, through Pope John Paul II, and also through the US and NATO, defeated Communism in the Soviet Union for us, with the fall of the USSR on Dec. 25th, 1991. "On December 25, 1991, the Soviet hammer and sickle flag lowered for the last time over the Kremlin, thereafter replaced by the Russian tricolor. Earlier in the day, Mikhail Gorbachev resigned his post as president of the Soviet Union, leaving Boris Yeltsin as president of the newly independent Russian state. People all over the world watched in amazement at this relatively peaceful transition from former Communist monolith into multiple separate nations." https://history.state.gov/milestones/1989-1992/collapse-soviet-union Unfortunately, western Europe began to sway from its Christian roots, and communist errors like anti-Christian secularism, atheism, abortion (first legalized in the USSR in 1917) now threaten to overwhelm the west. Our Lady's solution for World Peace in our times is (1) prayer for all crimes and sins like abortion to end, as the sins of man, as She has often said, are the cause of all evil upon earth, even natural evil, and especially Wars; and specifically (2) for US-Russia peace treaty and alliance. There once was such an alliance long ago, in pre-communist days, between President Lincoln and Tsar Alexander II" Coming on the heels of the bloody Union reverse at Chickamauga, the news of the Russian fleet unleashed an immense wave of euphoria in the North. It was this moment that inspired the later verses of Oliver Wendell Holmes, one of the most popular writers in America, for the 1871 friendship visit of the Russian Grand Duke Alexis: Bleak are our shores with the blasts of December, Fettered and chill is the rivulet’s flow; Thrilling and warm are the hearts that remember Who was our friend when the world was our foe. Fires of the North in eternal communion, Blend your broad flashes with evening’s bright star; God bless the Empire that loves the Great Union Strength to her people! Long life to the Czar!" https://www.voltairenet.org/article169488.html ("The US-Russia alliance that Saved the Union") I feel sad for Venezuela's crisis. Let us pray for the good people of Venezuela that this difficult political situation they're suffering through may be sorted out.
P., In my opinion, it is telling that there are probably no Venezuelan immigrants in Russia. We can blame this on the climate but yet there are Venezuelan immigrants (@22K) in Canada which has a similar climate to Russia. When two countries supposedly have good relations with each other usually some people will migrate from either country to the other. Russians have migrated to Venezuela beginning around the start of the 20th century but the reverse has never happened. Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russians_in_Venezuela https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Canada
There could be many reasons for Venezuelans not wanting to immigrate to Russia. A country like Canada most likely has very liberal health care/low income assistance for immigrants. I doubt Russia does. In addition, there is the language gap. It would be much easier for a Spanish speaker to adjust to Canada where a related language, French, is spoken/written as opposed to Russian which is a somewhat alien language to any foreigner, not even sharing the same alphabet. Then there is the additional connection of wanting to be where you might have relatives. I don't think Russia gets many immigrants from anywhere except the central republics of Asia for all of the reasons listed above.
They actually tie for second next to Germany under the US in immigrants entering Russia but you are correct, their immigrants largely come from Asian lands as one would expect.
It's very hard to find more details about Maria Esperanza's prophecy where she said "it will start here". Does anyone know the the date of that propecy? In my search for it, I came across some information which prodded my memory - I was wary of Maria's prophecies but couldn't remember why. Here's a link to a page about Maria on the Mystics of the Church website: https://www.mysticsofthechurch.com/2010/10/maria-esperanza-modern-day-mystic-and.html In the comments section, there's a long comment from someone who was very suspicious of both Maria and her family. That Maria's daughters are also claiming to have inherited her gifts was what rang warning bells for me in the past, and I'm equally sceptical now. There was a follow up comment from the same person. While anonymous comments don't really hold much weight, that person's comments struck me a genuine. That said, one thing the person in the comments section had against Maria was Maria's support for Cesar Chavez (no relation to Venezuala's Hugo Chavez), and I don't see why that would be a mark against her.
P., I agree that there are many reasons for people migrating to another country or not migrating there. My point is a simple one, if two countries have a good relationship as Russia and Venezuela supposedly have maintained for years as you have stated in your other post and we know that Russian businessmen have setup businesses in Venezuela a natural thing that occurs in most other scenarios such as this is that some people from Venezuela would have normally relocated to Russia. I think that it is a bit strange that this has not occurred, that is all. In addition, there are Spanish immigrants in Russia therefore some people in Russia already speak Spanish. As for what you have stated about Canada and Canadians speaking French, only one providence of Canada is truly French speaking (Quebec). Therefore, I don't agree that it would be easier for Spanish speaking people to move to Canada as opposed to Russia due to language reasons. DD, I am not making a statement about Russia not be accepting of immigrants, again I am simply stating that given the supposed good relationship between Russia and Venezuela it is odd that it appears that no Venezuelans have immigrated to Russia. That is all. D., I was recently told about a large group on LI where I live which follows Maria Esperanza. I have been wanting to reach out to them, when I do I'll let you know if they have any additional information about her prophecies.
I wasn't implying that you were Carol. I just wanted to make clear that Russia accepts many immigrants in fact much more so than most European nations and many people are not aware of this. I will admit though that I also don't see any real oddity with the lack of VZ immigration to Eastern Europe. It's about as alien to a Latin American culture as one could find. Maybe Maduro will be immigrating there sometime soon though?
Hope this isn't fake news... This is during the second massive power and internet failure that has been ongoing for the last 24 hours. Breaking: Large fire breaks out in or next to El Helicoide, a jail known to hold political prisoners, in Caracas VZ. https://twitter.com/PMBreakingNews/status/1111375569663344642
Carol you have cunningly drawn me into a debate over Venezuelan immigration into Russia. I cannot imagine a more obscure topic and I'm not sure how I got into this, but I will acquiesce...
I think this is very likely. I believe the former president of Ukraine immigrated there a few years ago...
