Agreed, when Abrams was brought in by Pompeo and Trump agreed I thought; Great, here we go again. Trump rejected Abrams back in 16 for the state dept which I was pleased about as I am sure were many who are sick of the neocon zionist foreign policy so I don't know why he would agree to put him in this role outside of the dog on a leash bit. One think I wondered about was if Trump is simply taking the strong man role with the impasse with VZ because it will suit him well in the coming election against the array of homegrown communists in sheep's clothing who are bound to run against him.
As long as Abram’s against radical communists like Omar he’s ok by me. I hope this time he really overthrows Maduro, instead of keeping a dictatorship in line. Obama let the Latin American drug lords and their cartels grow. We now have a communist leader in Mexico as President, who is friendly with the cartels. Unfortunately, these left wing armies are not weak. They have a great following all over Latin America, including inside our own Congress. It’s a dirty business to keep communists from taking over. Although neo con Abrams’ have worked hard to keep Israel safe from communism, they forgot an unsafe America, means an unsafe Israel.
Venezuelan opposition aide is seized, US and allies protest By FABIOLA SANCHEZ and CHRISTOPHER TORCHIA March 21, 2019 | https://apnews.com/dc2c5f751aa04454b79769d17748ee94 CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido’s top aide was taken away in the middle of the night by masked intelligence agents who broke down his door early Thursday, drawing condemnation from the United States and other countries pushing to oust President Nicolas Maduro. Washington demanded the immediate release of Guaido chief of staff Roberto Marrero, whose whereabouts after the raid on his Caracas home were not immediately disclosed. Marrero was detained as part of an operation against a “terrorist” cell, Interior Minister Nestor Luis Reverol said. Weapons were confiscated from Marrero and a bodyguard was also arrested, according to Reverol. Guaido’s top aide is being investigated for crimes including an alleged plot to kill Maduro, the chief prosecutor’s office said. Maduro indicated there could be more arrests, saying on national television that his government is dismantling a broader “terrorist” network. The arrest represented a sharp increase in police pressure on the opposition after a period of relative calm. Guaido, however, characterized the operation as a sign that Maduro is losing his grip on power in a country suffering from years of economic hardship and political polarization. “Either he doesn’t dare to jail me, or he’s not in charge,” Guaido, the leader of the opposition-controlled National Assembly, said during an appearance at a school. He also said some Venezuelan intelligence chiefs called him to say they weren’t involved, in what would suggest a split in their ranks. The United Nations expressed “concern” about Marrero’s detention and renewed a call for all parties “to lower tensions and refrain from any action that could lead to further escalation,” while U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo tweeted: “We will hold accountable those involved.” Guaido contends that he is the rightful leader of Venezuela and that Maduro’s re-election last year was illegitimate because major opposition figures were not allowed to run. The U.S. and about 50 other countries have sided with Guaido, and Washington has imposed sanctions to try to push Maduro from power, but the international pressure has not succeeded. The U.S. had warned the Maduro government not to act against Guaido. In Washington, President Donald Trump’s special envoy for Venezuela, Elliott Abrams, said he believes Maduro’s government is concerned about the international reaction if it tried to arrest Guaido and instead may be targeting Guaido’s aides. He repeated Trump’s statement that “all options are on the table,” but said “we’re not thinking” about a military option at this time. Maduro and his ally Russia have said they are concerned that the U.S. could be planning military intervention in Venezuela. The Lima Group, an association of about a dozen Latin American countries and Canada, also condemned Marrero’s detention. Marrero reported the raid in a telephone call that was recorded and circulated on social media. As he described how a large number of intelligence officials were entering his home, heavy thuds could be heard. The security forces broke through a screen door and a wooden door to get inside the house and left drawers open during their search, said Carlos Berrizbeitia, an opposition lawmaker who later visited the home. Dozens of security officers were involved. The neighboring home of another opposition lawmaker, Sergio Vergara, was also searched. Vergara said that he was woken up by heavy banging at his door and that agents pointed weapons at him. Venezuelan prosecutors say Guaido is under investigation for alleged links to violence as well as the nation’s severe power outages. Maduro alleges the blackouts were caused by U.S.-directed sabotage, while American officials and the Venezuelan opposition blame mismanagement and corruption. ___ Associated Press journalist Luis Alonso in Washington contributed. *** Exclusive: U.S. threatens to derail IADB meeting if China bars Venezuela's Guaido representative WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States on Thursday threatened to pull out from the annual meeting of the Inter-American Development Bank in China next week if Beijing refuses to allow a ... Reuters 5h
Abrams is a Zionist. The founders of Zionism were also the founders of Bolshevism/Communism. Abrams and Omar are two peas in a pod. Abrams and his Neocon ilk are the bigger threat however because they have subverted American national security interests to the interests of a foreign state: Israel. Abrams and other dual-citizens like Bolton are traitors, as is the majority of Congress for subordinating vital American national security intersts to the foreign state of Israel. In a few days Netanyahu will be coming before AIPAC and there you will witness the real collusion between America's ruling elite, Left and Right, and a foreign State.
Israel is the Holy Land. Why wouldn’t it be in the interest of the U.S. to protect an ally? I find it hopeful for Christianity that our country is protecting a nation where Jesus was born in. Instead of starting a war in Syria like neo con McCain did, all we have to do is exactly what Trump is doing. Announcing that Israel owns the Golan Heights and move on. We hold the power. Assad has to back off and tame his crazies. Why anger Assad and Russia by trying to grab more land outside the Golan Heights? McCain was nuts. Just work with Russia to get rid of the Ayatollahs. That’s what good governing is all about. Getting sane governments to help sane people living in insane governments. The world would be so much more peaceful.
Agreed. Ignore the politics in this thread. Its not the right forum. There are plenty of places on the net to discuss such things just not here. Its one thing to inform but there's a healthy dose of the pros and cons of socialism and and evils of neocons etc. That rubbish can be discussed in the millions of websites that cater to that sort of thing. Just not here please.
The point was made that it is one thing to inform, so people read the thread to be informed. It’s not that people don’t care for the thread, but perhaps some people don’t like what I refer to as “power-driven arguments”, which in this case happen to be political. I am not the individual who posted that comment, but it is a valid one. I borrowed that term, by the way, and there is another one called “debate disguised as conversation”
Socialism and Freemasonry are subjects that should always be discussed especially if one is Catholic. Many of Our Lady’s messages pertain to them. Geopolitics is another issue that deals with worldwide decisions and how it may affect Christians. I believe we learn from each other’s discussions. And that’s a good thing.
Guess we'll find out if Mr. Putin cooperates with preventing humanitarian aid, that is already there, from getting to the starved and abused citizens. Too bad he has to align with the thugs of the world to gain power. BREAKING: Russian planes 'carrying troops' arrive in Venezuela .....Russia and China now stand as the main allies of Venezuela, having lent billions of dollars to the oil-rich country. https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/wo...-invades-venezuela-troops-arrive-maduro-putin
Russia Gives US Red Line on Venezuela At a high-level meeting in Rome this week, it seems that Russia reiterated a grave warning to the US – Moscow will not tolerate American military intervention to topple the Venezuelan government with whom it is allied. Meanwhile, back in Washington DC, President Donald Trump was again bragging that the military option was still on the table, in his press conference with Brazilian counterpart Jair Bolsonaro. Trump is bluffing or not yet up to speed with being apprised of Russia’s red line. The meeting in the Italian capital between US “special envoy” on Venezuelan affairs Elliot Abrams and Russia’s deputy foreign minister Sergei Ryabkov had an air of urgency in its arrangement. The US State Department announced the tête-à-tête only three days beforehand. The two officials also reportedly held their two-hour discussions in a Rome hotel, a venue indicating ad hoc arrangement. Abrams is no ordinary diplomat. He is a regime-change specialist with a criminal record for sponsoring terrorist operations, specifically the infamous Iran-Contra affair to destabilize Nicaragua during the 1980s. His appointment by President Trump to the “Venezuela file” only underscores the serious intent in Washington for regime change in Caracas. Whether it gets away with that intent is another matter. Moscow’s interlocutor, Sergei Ryabkov, is known to not mince his words, having earlier castigated Washington for seeking global military domination. He calls a spade a spade, and presumably a criminal a criminal. The encounter in Rome this week was described as “frank” and “serious” – which is diplomatic code for a blazing exchange. The timing comes at a high-stakes moment, after Venezuela having been thrown into chaos last week from civilian power blackouts that many observers, including the Kremlin, blame on American cyber sabotage. The power grid outage followed a failed attempt by Washington to stage a provocation with the Venezuelan military over humanitarian aid deliveries last month from neighboring Colombia. The fact that Washington’s efforts to overthrow the elected President Nicolas Maduro have so far floundered, might suggest that the Americans are intensifying their campaign to destabilize the country, with the objective of installing US-backed opposition figure Juan Guaido. He declared himself “acting president” in January with Washington’s imprimatur. Given that the nationwide power blackouts seem to have failed in fomenting a revolt by the civilian population or the military against Maduro, the next option tempting Washington could be the military one. It seems significant that Washington has recently evacuated its last remaining diplomats from the South American country. US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo commented on the evacuation by saying that having US personnel on the ground “was limiting” Washington’s scope for action. Also, American Airlines reportedly cancelled all its services to Venezuela in the past week. Again, suggesting that the US was considering a military intervention, either directly with its troops or covertly by weaponizing local proxies. The latter certainly falls under Abrams’ purview. After the Rome meeting, Ryabkov said bluntly: “We assume that Washington treats our priorities seriously, our approach and warnings.” One of those warnings delivered by Ryabkov is understood to have been that no American military intervention in Venezuela will be tolerated by Moscow. For his part, Abrams sounded as if he had emerged from the meeting after having been given a severe reprimand. “No, we did not come to a meeting of minds, but I think the talks were positive in the sense that both sides emerged with a better understanding of the other’s views,” he told reporters. “A better understanding of the other’s views,” means that the American side was given a red line to back off. The arrogance of the Americans is staggering. Abrams seems, according to US reporting, to have flown to Rome with the expectation of working out with Ryabkov a “transition” or “compromise” on who gets the “title of president” of Venezuela. That’s what he no doubt meant when he said after the meeting “there was not a meeting of minds”, but rather he got “a better understanding” of Russia’s position. Washington’s gambit is a replay of Syria. During the eight-year war in that country, the US continually proffered the demand of a “political transition” which at the end would see President Bashar al Assad standing down. By contrast, Russia’s unflinching position on Syria has always been that it’s not up to any external power to decide Syria’s politics. It is a sovereign matter for the Syrian people to determine independently. Nearly three years after Russia intervened militarily in Syria to salvage the Arab country from a US-backed covert war for regime change, the American side has manifestly given up on its erstwhile imperious demands for “political transition”. The principle of Syrian sovereignty has prevailed, in large part because of Russia’s trenchant defense of its Arab ally. Likewise, Washington, in its incorrigible arrogance, is getting another lesson from Russia – this time in its own presumed “back yard” of Latin America. It’s not a question of Russia being inveigled by Washington’s regime-change schemers about who should be president of Venezuela and “how we can manage a transition”. Moscow has reiterated countless times that the legitimate president of Venezuela is Nicolas Maduro whom the people voted for last year by an overwhelming majority in a free and fair election – albeit boycotted by the US-orchestrated opposition. The framework Washington is attempting to set up of choosing between their desired “interim president” and incumbent Maduro is an entirely spurious one. It is not even worthy to be discussed because it is a gross violation of Venezuela’s sovereignty. Who is Washington to even dare try to impose its false choice? On Venezuela, Russia is having to remind the criminal American rulers – again – about international law and respect for national sovereignty, as Moscow earlier did with regard to Syria. And in case Washington gets into a huff and tries the military option, Moscow this week told regime-change henchman Abrams that that’s a red line. If Washington has any sense of rationale left, it will know from its Syria fiasco that Russia has Venezuela’s back covered. Political force is out. Military force is out. Respect international law and Venezuela’s sovereignty. That’s Russia’s eminently reasonable ultimatum to Washington. Now, the desperate Americans could still try more sabotage, cyber or financial. But their options are limited, contrary to what Trump thinks. How the days of American imperialist swagger are numbered. There was a time when it could rampage all over Latin America. Not any more, evidently. Thanks in part to Russia’s global standing and military power. https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2019/03/22/russia-gives-us-red-line-venezuela.html
Meduro is getting help on pushing all the right buttons. China and Russia sure enjoy cozying up with guys like him. I wonder how long it will be before he comes out of the closet and authoritatively declares himself emperor for life like Xi.
Netanyahu has been in power longer than both of them, is more corrupt than either of them, and has more innocent blood on his hands - including American soliders - than either Xi or Maduro. So, when do we start sanctioning Israel and overthrow Netanyahu?
Pretty low (but predictable) for you to play that worthless anti-semite card, given that American servicemen are dead (including members of my family) for that evil war in Iraq that Netanyahu so shamelessly shilled (lied) for before the US Congress. And we know that Netanyahu supported the demonic "Syrian Rebels" in the greatest persecution of Chrisitians since the Roman persectuions. Netanyahu is a follower of Zionism which is a racial supremacist ideology that has next to nothing to do with authentic Judaism. No wonder that fellow Zionists like Elliot Abrams are so hard at work pushing their racist supremacist ideology on the good people of Venezueala. What's really sickening is that so many Catholics continue to support this evil ideology known as Zionism, a antichristian ideology to the core and the precursor of the Antichrist's religion to come. Nevermind that it has utterly corrupted US foreign policy. As a Catholic and American I will oppose this evil ideology/heresy to the day I die.
Take a good look at the society that Israel has built with it's religious beliefs, political policies and the leadership of men such as Netanyahu. A closed, zero trust, open air prison for it's own Jewish citizens that borders on apartheid for anyone not of the chosen class. They have to pay for people with the right bloodline to come there for a visit in the hope they will move there. They spend untold millions trying to convince the world they have an open and free society. The thing is nobody is buying it and the young here in the US are not sympathetic to their continued cause. Israel's days are numbered in it's current state. God will see to that.
Sure. Find another forum. This is supposed to be about marian apparitions not socialism, neocons, or freemasonry. So find another more suitable place to discuss this fascinating if not convtroversial subjects please. Gazillions of places on the net for you to do so. There might even be a suitable place for that discussion in MOG. But find somewhere please so the rest of us can go about leaning about the apparitions of our blessed mother.
