US Presidential election 2016

Paul Ryan, just another bought and paid for gop hack.

 

I dunno. That's a tough one. If a candidate is going to bring long lasting embarrassment to the party and a landslide loss, I can understand that all options are on the table, but it probably won't end any better for the party if they unilaterally "replace" the candidates who actually waged a campaign.

Just another sign of the times. The results of this election show me that America has definitively lost her mind, her soul, and her moral compass. A Christian now has no political home - the GOP never did much except use Christians anyway - but now a large section of voters, in their anger, have deserted pro-life, pro-family conservatism altogether, and just wants someone who is hated by the corrupt establishment. Well, they GOT someone who is hated by the corrupt establishment, and also disgusts 60%+ of their own party's voters and 75%+ of all Americans.

Our country isn't coming back from this. Rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic at this point. The lunatics are running the asylum. Chastisement will wake people up.

 

Please don't get too wrapped up in all this. The veil is being lifted so we can see what is truly going on in D.C. and we're being shown that Republicans and Democrats in the establishment are really the same. This is all a moot point this election, it's more clear day by day that Charlie's prediction that there will not be an election and that our next leader will not come from the electoral process is unfolding in front of our eyes. Imagine the anarchy that will erupt when they usurp our will and install Ryan/Romney/RINOoftheDay as the nominee

 

You are so right FP. It's like an out of body experience ( not that I've had one of those ) but it's like looking down at this scene unfolding in a surreal kind of way. Every once in a while, I join in the "earthly fray" of all this despite your 100% correct analysis that it's all headed in the direction that God has ordained. All will be well.

 

I too get caught up in it from time to time, it's hard to let go of what I've been trained to do for 53 years. First time I voted was just weeks after I turned 18 and voted for Ronald Reagan and he wound up turning our country around, so it's hard to let go but politics is truly a dead man walking.

My wife has wisely advised me to "detach" when I get caught up in it from time to time. I think that's great advice, we need to detach from politics and the things of this world that God is showing us are false gods, and "attach" to what is true and good . . . Him

He has a plan and apparently a large part of it is to show us how the political leaders we have, on both sides of the aisle, have not been working for us, but against us.

 

Funny you write about this and then you read the info in link about mass civil disobedience. Yes, CJ prophesy is looking more and more likely. But again, it's a distraction. We will do our best to be those signs of hope in the Storm. Peace

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...est-civil-disobedience-action-of-the-century/

 

On one hand, I am hoping Charlie is right, but on the another, I do keep a healthy skepticism about his predictions and maintain a wait and see attitude.

America is morally, spiritually, mentally, physically, financially, and all other -llys bankrupt. I agree that Americans are very ANGRY and upset to find out that the democrats and GOP are one in the same and that they are ALL in bed with each other. So they run to Trump thinking they've won the prize and he'll will fix everything. There are no principles or truth connected with him. They'll be very upset when they find out that he is no different than the democrats and GOP. He is WITH them making backroom deals and that is why people like Sarah Palin, Rick Santorum, Gov. Huckabee, Ben Carson, and others have endorsed him. He's probably promised them money or a spot on his administration should he get that far.

If the "people" keep voting for him and he gets the delegates needed to secure the nomination, as much as I hate the thought, he NEEDS to get the nomination. By the time the convention rolls around in July, it'd be almost a year that Americans have invested their votes. If Trump is who they want, that's who they deserve. If the establishment throws in Ryan and Romney to upstage Trump, all HELL will break lose. Maybe this how things go down?

In any case, I prayerfully wait for Divine intervention in whatever form the Lord sees fit.

 

If one votes for Trump it seems a vote for Trump. Regardless of how despicable he might be, you know what you're getting. If one votes for someone prostituted to anonymous donors one has no idea what one is voting for.

 

I can't find a map of delegates to the Republican convention. I don't understand why a media outlet hasn't projected an outcome. Maybe it's too complicated or they don't want to take the risk. Has anyone found an article on this? Not how many delegates a candidate has or how many come from a state, but a projected final. With all the computers today this is crazy that someone can't plug and chug some numbers with probabilities. You ever feel deja vu? I do sometimes and it gets me angry. Sorry, this has nothing to do with the election.

 

It seems unlikely (because to my knowledge Trump has not cleared 50% in any state and has cleared 40% in only a handful) that Trump will get enough delegates to win the nomination outright. I know he has less than half the delegates awarded so far. So, there would be a contested convention in that case, and it's unlikely (but possible) that Trump would get the nomination in that situation. It would probably be Cruz. After that, how much chaos would be unleashed would depend on Trump and his supporters. (My guess is: a lot)

At any rate, the establishment could not be blamed at that point. Kasich is the only "establishment" candidate left and he's only got 130 delegates, compared to 660+ for Trump and around 400 for Cruz.

 

Trump has about 660 delegates and he needs about 1230. If chart in link is correct there appears to be about 950 delegates still up for grabs in remaining races. So Trump would need about 600 of these 950 (60-65%) to hit that number. Given that a good number of the states left in this list, including CA and a few other big states, are winner take all, ( quick count shows the winner take all states total about 600 delegates), I would say he has a good shot at getting to that number mathematically.

Enough of my political science pontification.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/republican_delegate_count.html

 

Now we will see if Cruz can beat Trump in a head to head battle. Probably 60% of Rubio's supporters will go to Cruz, and almost none to Trump. 25% might go to Kasich and some to third parties or even Hillary. If you add those totals to Cruz, then it means that Cruz would have won NC and Missouri last night instead of Trump. We'll see what happens the rest of the way.

 

prophesy being played out right before our very eyes

 

This means the last states that might think they don't get attention (California, Montana, New Jersey, New Mexico, and South Dakota) will find a lot criss crossing of their states by Trump, Cruz, and Kasich's paddy waggon.

 

I don't foresee any real GOP voter running for Hillary....no way. Most of my republican friends are tossed between Cruz and Trump and know full well if they duck out if it is Trump in the end it will basically be a vote for Hillary....I think no conservative would reach for Hillary....ever

 

Trump doesn't disgust "60% of his own party and 75% of all Americans." If you believe that then you also probably believe the Media propaganda that Trump "is responsible for violence," when anyone with two eyeballs can see that it is the Media and violent Establishment operatives like BLM and Moveon.org that are responsible for the real violence at Trump's rallies. If Trump is harmed or God forbid assassinated, then you will see an uprising in this country like never before.

I'll tell you who is really disgusted by Trump: it is the Neocon establishment that has permeated both Left and Right since the end of the Cold War. They are absolutely disgusted and terrified that their death-grip on American Foregin Policy, Trade and Immigration is in jeopardy should Trump win the Presidency. They aren't used to real opposition. You see, Trump has lit a fire and set a very dangerous example as far as the violent, corrupt Establishment is concerned: Trump has said "no" to them. They aren't used to anyone saying "no." They are trying to destroy Trump now because they know that if more men of power follow Trump's example and say "no," then their gig is up and all the hard work they have done since the end of the Cold War will be for nothing.

 

No true conservative, and certainly no practicing Catholic, could ever vote for Hillary. She is an unrepentant pro-deather.

The GOP showed their true colors on Abortion when those 116 GOP elite signed a letter threatening to abandon Trump if he is the eventual nominee, with some of them even threatening to vote for Hillary:

"Not in memory has the leadership of a party been so out of touch. The Republican rank and file are in revolt, not only against the failures of their fathers but the policies of their present rulers.

Some among the GOP elites, who have waited patiently through the Obama era to recapture control of U.S. foreign policy, are now beside themselves with despair over Trump’s success.

Fully 116 members of the GOP’s national security community, many of them veterans of Bush administrations, have signed an open letter threatening that, if Trump is nominated, they will all desert, and some will defect – to Hillary Clinton!

“Hillary is the lesser evil, by a large margin,” says Eliot Cohen of the Bush II State Department. According to Politico’s Michael Crowley, Cohen helped line up neocons to sign the “Dump-Trump” manifesto.

Another signer, Robert Kagan, wailed in the Washington Post, “The only choice will be to vote for Hillary Clinton..." http://buchanan.org/blog/oligarchs-super-pac-anti-trump-strategy-124921

 

It looks like Ryan has ruled himself out as an agreed candidate. He said that the nominee should be someone who ran for President. During this morning's discussion on CNBC (this was a financial programme) they said that only Trump can win enough delegates to avoid a brokered convention but he would need to win 60% of delegates in all remaining states and they considered that unattainable. They wanted Kasich but would hold their noses and take Cruz as a lesser evil than Trump. Rubio's man was hyper-ventilating about Trump having his finger on the nuclear button! They want Kasich and reckon they can get him because the brokered convention will be a secret ballot. You have to wonder about the integrity of people who demanded that Trump sign a pledge saying he would support the Republican candidate if he didn't win the nomination and now are talking about voting third party, abstaining or voting for a Democrat. Nobody could blame Trump for running as an independent if they do the dirty on him.

I feel for all you Americans trying to make sense out of this. It's no better here. I don't think we have a government yet. I stopped paying attention to all the machinations after the election because all the likely scenarios are bad and badder. Following the US elections is easier on the blood pressure. I'm afraid that we haven't been praying enough. Maybe God is just sick of us all and is leaving us to self-destruct.

 

Not all Rubio voters were conservatives. A small amount were moderates.

 

From Reuters:

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U.S. Republican front-runner Donald Trump warned on Wednesday of riots if he is denied the party's presidential nomination after a string of primary election victories.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-idUSKCN0WG0YL

Leave it to Donald to start bullying again. This time he is sending out a message to plan riots if he isn't given the nomination at a brokered republican convention. He knows he will not get enough delegates, so he is trying to rally his supporters ahead of time for what he ultimately wants.

Well it won't be the first time the Republicans choose their man. Abraham Lincoln was chosen after 4 votes in a convention in 1860 to ultimately become the POTUS.