US Presidential election 2016

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by Infant Jesus of Prague, Dec 4, 2015.

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  1. FatimaPilgrim

    FatimaPilgrim Powers

    There is nothing in here that is helping bring our brothers and sisters closer to God. In fact it's doing the opposite, close it
     
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  2. Hoosier

    Hoosier Guest

    Communists would shut this down.
     
  3. Hoosier

    Hoosier Guest

    If the server is in Padraig's bathroom this isn't fair. ;)
     
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  4. padraig

    padraig Powers

    3.... open thus far; 1 close and one rosary. But Super Thursday's not over yet folks!
     
  5. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Donald Trump's bathroom....just like the film , 'Gold Finger.'

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  6. Sam

    Sam Powers

    From Charlie Johnston


    I owe a profound debt of gratitude in my developing thought to my old friend, John McConnell, who posts here occasionally as John McFarm. I have known him for well over a decade – and his Mom for at least four decades. He is one of the most honorable men I have ever known and has often been an inspiration to me. I have always known him to do the most right thing he can think of. He is a Donald Trump supporter. It is all too easy for folks who think like me to be dismissive of Trump – and to be tempted to be dismissive of those who support him. But I can’t be dismissive of John. I know he loves his God with great passion and he loves this country with nearly the same passion. So I really got to thinking.

    What if the system in America is completely corrupted at the structural level? If that is so, you need to bust up the saloon, not just work within the system. Trump, more than any other candidate, seems likely to bust up the saloon. More than any other candidate, he seems likely not to cravenly go asking the United Nations for permission to defend ourselves. My fundamental problem with him is that I do not believe he has a Godly solution he would build on, that busting up the saloon is all he has. And I fear that even then, he may end up making a deal with the people he now denounces. But I understand the appeal – and I agree that this saloon needs an overhaul, not just new management.

    Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio are more to my taste. They are more traditional officials who I believe are committed to the Constitutional System. But if the system is corrupted at the structural level, going in and working within that system would only lock in the cultural disorders its perversions have visited on us. If they are going to work within the bounds of traditional give-and-take politics, that means that the imposition of gay marriage by judicial fiat on the whole country and abortion on demand will remain. It means judicial and unelected bureaucratic lawlessness and imperiousness will remain unchecked, except around the edges. I hope, but I am not sure, that neither man would feel constrained to ask the United Nations for permission to defend ourselves.

    We are in a trick box. Business as usual is not going to cut it to get us out of what has brought the Storm upon us. The truth is that none of the options seems strong enough to rescue us, though some seem likely to deepen an already severe crisis. People, frightened by what is upon us, naturally look to the means they have always used to try to steer out of the danger, even when those means are hopelessly corrupted. We should not take offense at each other for that.

    I have failed here. I have been telling all my closest friends for nine years that traditional politics is a dead man walking and we will not find a solution to our cultural and spiritual problems in the political realm – that a spiritual and cultural response is the only answer. Yet I have caught myself making shallow political comments, as if I don’t believe my own consistent description of how this Storm would progress.

    I have said that God has a plan, akin to the one He mounted to save France at the end of the Hundred Years War, a plan that human imagination cannot now fathom.

    I have often said, throughout my life, that the leaders we choose are usually not the cause of our problems, but a symptom of what we are as a people. More than at any other time in our past, I think this election cycle is not about the candidates, but about who we are. Will we let the “gratuitous hatred” Dennis Prager speaks of poison our regard for our neighbors, all of whom are struggling to make sense of how to right this damaged ship in dangerous and uncharted waters?

    To read the whole article:
    https://charliej373.wordpress.com/2016/03/02/politcs-in-these-divisive-decisive-times/
     
  7. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie


    Honestly Padrig...ill leave it up to your discretion. Contrary to the opinion of mark, I actually do not like arguing....I like even less letting something I feel is important go unresponded to...especially something that is life and death.

    If it's shut down, then I will at least be at peace that I defended those who have no voice. Im not sure, but I don't think infant minds this debate one bit. I do mind it....and I'd rather not have it. If it stays up, I'll continue to defend the candidate I feel will be the best ProLife candidate.

    If it's shut down now, I'll admit that everything that could be said on this has already been said. I do repeat myself as I feel the need to restate my position when it is repeadly challenged by trump supporters.

    There is another thread that Richard started on these elections that infant can post on if this closes.

    I'll respect your decision either way Padrig.

    As an Irishwoman myself, I agree that in political circles...this is nothing. And as I said earlier...if someone is annoyed by this...then listening to Trump for four years will be nothing short of torture
     
  8. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie


    All that glitters is not gold :)
     
  9. Hoosier

    Hoosier Guest

    Well....you never know where you'll find a nugget.
     
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  10. Hoosier

    Hoosier Guest

    Maybe this is sign to buy gold. ;)
     
  11. Jackie

    Jackie Archangels

    God's grace given in the Mass. Ted Cruz is not Catholic but was there at Justice Scalia's funeral Mass.
    And, Cruz has an audiographic memory, he'll remember every word of Father Paul's homily.
     
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  12. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    He memorized the Constitution of the USA! A good, good man.
     
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  13. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    For all the Cruz supporters and anyone concerned about the NWO ( New World Order). and How the EU came to be the model for the North American Union in the works.
    No wonder ex Mexican President speaks against Trumps border wall, Fox says this Union will be complete by 2023, 7th year of the next US President.

    First minute ruffly, some potty talk( 3 posted comments section) but clean talk after

    A must watch folks... its 15 minutes, time well spent

    Ted Cruz: First President of the North American Union?
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    The Next News Network

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=lNhp9H3yCsI
     
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  14. miker

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  15. Bernadette

    Bernadette Archangels


    I absolutely loved her words. I especially loved how she wrote:

    "I always lose my sanity when I am not praying enough. If you feel your anger boiling or fear bubbling up in you, take some time out to pray. Go, pour your heart out to Jesus. He is the only one who can change hearts and help us face uncertainty and lack of control with grace. He is the only one who can give us courage in situations that seem hopeless."

    How true! Sometimes we just need to walk away (from the computer) and pray or go to the Blessed Sacrament and pour our hearts out. Wise advice. Thanks miker!

    God Bless!
     
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  16. Hoosier

    Hoosier Guest

    Thank you for this.
     
  17. padraig

    padraig Powers

     
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  18. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    Much wisdom in this....as she points out, it's hard to resist the temptation to dehumanize another person whom you loath. That's an easy hit.

    Finding the balance to properly discriminate characteristics, policy and personality in this most important election can be difficult. But making those distinctions is necessary...least we ignore it all and be deceived. Other nations who buried their heads when choosing leaders and looked the other way suffered greatly as did the world.

    Her point to keeping a sense of humor in all of this is true, but sometimes very difficult given the high stakes of the outcome of all of this. Not personally...but for the world.

    In the end...we will get what we deserve...

    Trying to keep Padre Pios word...Pray, Hope and Don't worry.....

    It's just easier said than done...

    Thanks Miker.
     
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  19. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie


    I had not heard that paticular piece before. But I did hear that his mob connections were documented.

    This and other scandalous stories about Trump and how he does business both personally and professionally will be rolled out in excess....and gleefully, by the left leaning, Hillary loving media.

    This is the tip of the Trump iceberg that awaits us....to be unveiled just in time for the republican convention if Trump is the nominee, or shortly thereafter.

    If the republicans who are trying to vet out Trump now are ignored and intimidated into silence, count on this and more being made headline news on a nightly basis in the general election.....UNLESS the media, who feels threatened by trumps gangster style tactics are afraid of him....and it's been reported that many of them are..they too may be silent....trump takes no prisoners.

    This is why,....CHARACTER COUNTS.
     
  20. Hoosier

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    Padraig....come to Vegas. We'll go to the Mob Museum.
     
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