US Presidential election 2016

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  1. FatimaPilgrim

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    I had the exact same feeling on that Weds when I woke up, something spiritually had changed. Like we literally had switched over from light to dark

    I made my first purchase of a physical good for protection the Friday of that week and started looking for land the next weekend.
     
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  2. FatimaPilgrim

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    Yes, I read that yesterday. That's a big move for them to do so. Many good people are trying to wake folks up and show them that Trump is a mistake, but it's not going to work, Trump it will be to run against Hillary. Trump appeals to those who know something is drastically wrong and they see him as being capable of doing something (not sure what, but something). I'll vote for him over Hillary as she's pure evil, but the whole thing is a moot point I feel. The fact that it'll be Hillary vs. Trump as our choices shows me that Charlie is exactly right and neither will be our president (thank God!). Come Lord Jesus, come!
     
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  3. Beth B

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    Thank you Padrid...they have stated the case against trump so much better than I, everything that I've been trying to say for weeks! Pray that the Christians will wake up and see the truth...before it's too late!

    Thank you.
     
  4. Beth B

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    I hop

    I hope they won't...but I tend to error on the side of caution...
     
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  6. Fatima

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    I would vote for Trump before Clinton, BUT I have to pray about even voting for an apparent lesser of two evils. I don't see anyone one of them reflecting Christian moral values. I have always voted, but don't know if I can this time.
     
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    Pray for a miracle that we won't have to make that decision....
     
  8. Beth B

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    Falwell’s Trump endorsement criticized by Liberty University board chairman


    On Super Tuesday, the chairman Liberty University’s board of trustee’s executive committee said he can no longer remain silent about college president Jerry Falwell Jr’s endorsement of Donald Trump.

    “I’ve been concerned for Liberty University for a couple of months now, and I’ve held my tongue,” Mark DeMoss told The Washington Post. “I think a lot of what we’ve seen from Donald Trump will prove to be difficult to explain by evangelicals who have backed him. Watching last weekend’s escapades about the KKK, I don’t see how an evangelical backer can feel good about that.”



    - See more at: http://jonathanmerritt.religionnews...iversity-board-chairman/#sthash.tKyHRKOy.dpuf
     
  9. FatimaPilgrim

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    Completely understand. Hopefully we won't have to make this choice
     
  10. Richard67

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    Pat Buchanan warns that Republican elites will take Hillary over Trump:





    "The first four Republican contests — Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada — produced record turnouts.

    While the prospect of routing Hillary Clinton and recapturing the White House brought out the true believers, it was Donald Trump’s name on the ballot and his calls for economic patriotism, border security, and an end to imperial wars that brought out the throngs.

    The crowds that continue to come out for his appearances and the vast audiences he has attracted to GOP debates testify to his drawing power.

    Moreover, Trump has now been endorsed by Gov. Chris Christie, ex-chairman of the Republican Governors Association, and Sen. Jeff Sessions, one of the most respected conservatives on Capitol Hill.

    Yet, with polls pointing to a possible Trump sweep on Super Tuesday, his probable nomination, and a chance for the GOP to take it all in the fall, is causing some conservatives and Republicans to threaten to bolt, go third party, stay home, or even vote for Clinton.

    They would prefer to lose to Clinton than win with Trump.

    A conservative friend told this writer that Trump, unlike, say, Ted Cruz, has never shown an interest in the Supreme Court, which, with Justice Antonin Scalia’s seat vacant, hangs in the balance.

    Yet, surely, a President Trump, hearing the clamor of those who elected him to find a Scalia, would be responsive.

    With President Clinton, the court is gone for a generation.

    We hear wails that the nomination of Trump would mean the end of the conservative movement. But how so?

    If Trump won and conducted a conservative government, it would validate the movement. If Trump won and turned left, it would inspire an insurgency like Ronald Reagan’s in 1976, when the Ford-Rockefeller-Kissinger administration moved too far toward detente.

    If Trump ran and lost, the conservative movement would have President Clinton to unite and rally the troops against.

    One recalls Barry Goldwater’s historic wipeout in 1964. But, in 1966, Republicans made the greatest gains in a generation, and went on to win the presidency for 20 of the next 24 years.

    Undeniably, a Trump presidency would mean an end to the Bush and establishment policies on trade, immigration and intervention.

    But those policies have already been repudiated in the primaries, as they have proven to be transparent failures for America.

    As long ago as the early 1990s, populist conservatives were imploring George H. W. Bush to secure our Mexican border, as tens of thousands poured across in the San Diego-Tijuana corridor. Gov. Pete Wilson turned near-certain defeat into a stunning comeback victory in 1994 by promising to send the National Guard.

    Why did the establishment not respond then to the electorate? Why, instead of trashing Wilson for imperiling future party prospects with Hispanics, did the establishment not do what the people had demanded and move decisively to secure our southern border?

    What is conservative about uncontrolled borders?

    Why, as trade deficits with China and the world rose from the tens of billions to hundreds of billions, did the establishment not wake up and see the shuttering factories, the lost jobs and the ghost towns arising across America — and react?

    Could they not see that, as we celebrated globalization, Beijing and Tokyo were practicing ruthless mercantilism and protectionism?

    At the end of the Cold War in 1991, many Americans urged that, with the Soviet Empire dissolved and Soviet Union disintegrating, it was time to bring our troops home and let the rich fat nations that had been freeloading for half a century provide the soldiers and pay the cost of their own security.

    Instead, the establishment opted for empire, for expanding old alliances, dumping over regimes, crusading for democracy, sending our soldiers out to remake Third World countries in the image of Iowa and Vermont.

    Who now thinks all these wars were worth the cost?

    Whether Trump wins or loses the nomination, the immigration, trade and foreign policies pursued by the elites since the end of the Cold War are dead letters. The nation has declared them to be so in the primaries.

    Who is campaigning, in either party today, for open borders, or passing The Trans-Pacific Partnership, or sending troops back to Iraq or into Syria?

    The Bernie Sanders insurgency appears to have been turned back by the vested interests of his party. But like the George McGovern insurgency in ’72, which also relied heavily upon the enthusiasm of the young, Sanders’ socialism may be the ideological future of his party.

    The same may be said of the Trump insurgency. Whatever happens at Cleveland, the returns from the primaries look like the passing of the old order, the death rattle of an establishment fighting for its life, and being laughed at and mocked as it goes down.

    As in 1964 and 1980, a new Republican Party is taking shape.

    Defections are to be expected, and not altogether unwelcome." http://buchanan.org/blog/is-a-new-gop-being-born-124893
     
  11. Richard67

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  12. Beth B

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    TODAY, AMERICAN WOULD ELECT CLINTON OVER TRUMP!

    Trump is a bad candidate!

    If Trump can't beat a scandal ridden candidate like Clintom...then why would we pick him as the nominee? Polls show that trump looses to her....no matter what Trump keeps saying....he is wrong....he loses!

    Data
    PollDateSampleMoEClinton (D)Trump (R)Spread
    RCP Average2/10 - 3/1----45.442.0Clinton +3.4
    Rasmussen Reports2/29 - 3/11000 LV3.04136Clinton +5
    CNN/ORC2/24 - 2/27920 RV3.05244Clinton +8
    FOX News2/15 - 2/171031 RV3.04742Clinton +5
    USA Today/Suffolk2/11 - 2/151000 LV3.04345Trump +2
    Quinnipiac2/10 - 2/151342 RV2.74443Clinton +1
    All General Election: Trump vs. Clinton Polling Data



    If Hillary wins....blame it on a bad nominee...Trump!
    Trump loses nationally to Hillary.


    As of now, Polls show Hillary beats Trump.....solution......don't run trump.....he polls bad nationally.

    Trumps horribly history will be broadcasted daily by the Hillary loving leftist press. There is so much of it. Even now, trump is threatening to file law suits against any media that airs his dirty laundry. Trump is just such a seriously flawed candidate. It won't be hard to make him look as evil as Hillary. Trump is not a real republican and he should not be the republican nominee. If he is....then those who support Trump have only themselves to blame.

    Vote for Cruz

    Rubio has no path to the nomination...he has only won one state.
    If Rubio gets out now, his support would go to cruz....not Trump
    Since Rubio refuses to get out, trump has a better shot at the nomination because the anti trump vote is split.

    Folks need to get behind Cruz if there is any hope of trump not getting the nomination. If your support was between Rubio or Cruz, you need to choose Cruz to prevent trump from being the default candidate and losing the general election.

    Party regulars want Cruz....party elites do not because he follows the constitution and votes the will of the people. Republican elites cannot control Cruz, therefore they have not supported him. Cruz stood up against the establishment elites that control the party...he always does the right thing.

    Now, realizing that according to the polls, the republicans will lose this election if trump is the nominee, even the party elites are willing to support Cruz....that is how bad a candidate trump is.

    If republican have any hope of winning the general election over Hillary, they had better not put trump up as the nominee...he loses in polls over her. Many good party regulars will find it almost impossible to vote for Trump in a match up between him and Hillary because they view him as bad as Hillary.

    Vote Cruz if there is any chance of winning in November. If trump wins the nomination....goodby whitehouse....clintons control it again. Then we are done.

    CRUZ BEATS CLINTON:


    Polling Data
    PollDateSampleMoECruz (R)Clinton (D)Spread
    RCP Average2/10 - 2/27----46.545.0Cruz +1.5
    CNN/ORC2/24 - 2/27920 RV3.04948Cruz +1
    FOX News2/15 - 2/171031 RV3.04645Cruz +1
    Quinnipiac2/10 - 2/151342 RV2.74643Cruz +3
    USA Today/Suffolk2/11 - 2/151000 LV3.04544Cruz +1
     
  13. Beth B

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    Trump...a bad candidate....

    The liberal treasure chest to defeat Trump:


    Hillary’s Trump strategy: Clinton has a secret weapon — which Cruz and Rubio missed out on — to take down the GOP front-runner
    http://www.salon.com/2016/03/02/hillarys_trump_strategy_clinton_has_a_secret_weapon_which_cruz_and_rubio_missed_out_on_to_take_down_the_gop_front_runner

    The plan has three major thrusts: Portray Mr. Trump as a heartless businessman who has worked against the interests of the working-class voters he now appeals to; broadcast the degrading comments he has made against women in order to sway suburban women, who have been reluctant to support Mrs. Clinton; and highlight his brash, explosive temper to show he is unsuited to be commander in chief.

    There’s absolutely no shortage of material to work with on any of these fronts. Painting him as a predatory businessman shouldn’t be too difficult – Trump is already taking heat for his flagrant “Trump University” scam, and we still haven’t even really gotten into the “Trump Mortgage” scam and the “pee in a cup so Donald Trump can send you special vitamins” scam. On the anti-women front, you can hardly take a step in any direction without stepping in some misogynistic pile Trump has deposited on the public airwaves. BuzzFeed mined Trump’s many, many appearances on Howard Stern’s radio program over the years and pulled out a heaping mound of sexist quotes, any one of which can be the fulcrum of an attack ad. As for Trump’s temperament, that’s a bit trickier to go after given that Trump has a knack for turning accusations of anger into positive affirmations of his political identity. Pointing out that Trump is “brash” and angry might not be so disqualifying in an electorate that overwhelmingly believes the country is on the wrong track.


    It’s not a half-bad strategy, but might be overlooking a couple of key points. You can call Trump a sexist con-man and enjoy the satisfaction of being correct, but that’s no guarantee that his supporters will abandon him. As my colleague Elias Isquith has written, the key to undermining Trump is making him look weak. A good chunk of his appeal is derived from his image as someone who will go to Washington and just start busting shit up for all the incompetent losers who currently run the government. The moment you make Trump look powerless and lost, the illusion evaporates.

    Marco Rubio has been trying his damnedest to do exactly this over the past week, literally questioning the size of Trump’s manhood and calling him a pants-wetting coward. But those attacks have no credibility because Rubio consistently loses to Trump, and the over-the-top character of the jabs feels desperate. The Times notes that the Clinton campaign is enlisting President Obama to “gleefully portray Mr. Trump as incapable of handling the duties of the office,” which is well and good, but they also might consider having him take Trump down a peg or two. One of Obama’s underappreciated strengths is his knack for mocking humor, and he has some experience when it comes to humiliating Donald Trump.
     
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    Washington (CNN)Both of the remaining Democratic candidates for president easily top Republican front-runner Donald Trump in hypothetical general election match-ups, according to a new CNN/ORC Poll.


    But Hillary Clinton, who is well ahead in the Democratic race for the presidency, would likely face a stronger challenge should Florida Sen. Marco Rubio or Texas Sen. Ted Cruzcapture the Republican nomination for president.

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/01/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-poll/
     
  16. Beth B

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    New poll shows Trump would lose to Bernie – and to Hillary! – but The Donald insists he's 'the one person that Hillary Clinton does not want to run against'

    • Hillary Clinton leads Donald Trump by a 52-44 margin in a new CNN/ORC head-to-head poll
    • The survey didn't sample 'likely' voters, which could be a serious shortcoming
    • Clinton is still trailing Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio
    • Bernie Sanders is running ahead of all three Republican leaders
    • Super Tuesday 2016: See the latest polls, pre
     
  17. Richard67

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    Trump hasn't even started dismantling Hillary. No one (except the corrupt establishment) believes that Hillary is more popular and electable than Donald Trump. Hillary is a femi-nazi, a war criminal, and a race-baiter. I haven't been paying much attention to these polls as they pertain to Trump, especially when they are so disparate from Trump's results on Super Tuesday. The establishment has a history of manipulating polls and committing voter fraud. See Barack Obama. Here is the only poll that matters:

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  18. Richard67

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    Neil Clark hits the nail on the head:




    "The war hawks of the Republican Party would like us to believe they are sensitive individuals who are shocked by Trump’s ‘extremism'. Don‘t be fooled. As ever, for the ‘We've got to invade Iraq because Saddam's got WMDs' brigade, its all about foreign policy and in particular making sure that the policy of Regime Change and Endless War, euphemistically called ‘interventionism’ continues. The Neocon faction are worried that Trump, a right-wing populist who prefers to kick ISIS butt rather than topple the secular Assad, and who has denounced the Iraq war, is a threat to their cause.

    In a new article entitled ‘NeoConservatives declare war on Donald Trump’, Zaid Jilani of The Intercept details the hawks’ campaign. Jilani notes that the ‘Emergency Committee for Israel’ - an organization which has ‘serial war propagandist’ and uber Neocon Bill Kristol a board member, paid for a ‘Trump Loves Dictators’ advertisement last weekend. Labeling opponents of neoconservative foreign policy as ‘lovers of dictators’ is of course a regular smear which is deployed by the war lobby.

    The excellent Glenn Greenwald, the Intercept’s co-founding editor and a journalist who always keeps his eye on the ball, has been chronicling how leading Neocons are coming out openly in support of Hillary Clinton. He’s also been highlighting the hypocrisy of Republican establishment figures who claimed to be shocked by Trump’s tactics and statements...

    ...While Marco Rubio, the man Neocons would love to have seen get the Republican nomination, has won just one primary. Jeb Bush, brother of the warmonger Dubya, has already dropped out of the race.

    Like spoiled children who haven't got their way neocons now bawl that the Republican Party is in ‘crisis’. The hardcore extremists who pushed for the illegal Iraq war, who have pushed tirelessly for regime change in Syria, and who cheer-leadered for the assault on Libya in 2011, are now concerned that an ’extremist’ could be the Republican’s Presidential candidate. Whoever said that the age of satire was dead...." https://www.rt.com/op-edge/334311-super-tuesday-neocons-trump/
     
  19. Beth B

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    Rush Limbaugh on Ted Cruz:

    Talk radio host Rush Limbaugh criticized three GOP presidential candidates, whom he accused of pandering to moderate New Hampshire voters, saying Texas Sen. Ted Cruz would never do such a thing just to win.
    Limbaugh: Cruz 'Has Got to Be Your Guy' – 'Closest to Reagan'
    Rush Limbaugh says the best way for the Republican establishment to stop Donald Trump is to “unify” behind Sen. Ted

    “Rubio is the desired candidate because that’s where the monied people want to go,” Limbaugh argued. “He’s closer to the establishment, this whole Gang of Eight business. Cruz is genuinely, I mean Trumpsters, you think Trump owns this outsider business, Cruz is more of an outsider than you know in terms of the way the Republican establishment disdains him, doesn’t like him, fears him, hates him. He’s so much of what they don’t want. They don’t want conservatism in the party, they don’t want evangelicals prominent in the party. They don’t want anybody talking about Judeo-Christian ethics and morality and conservatism. They’re trying to sweep that out of the party ever since Goldwater.


    Rush Limbaugh sent a clear signal to his radio audience Monday on the eve of Super Tuesday.

    If you want to send a message to the Washington and GOP establishment, Ted Cruz is your candidate.

    "Ted Cruz is only guy that was taking on the Republican establishment of all the Republicans in the race," Limbaugh told his 10 million listeners.

    "And he was the only guy who had been fighting the establishment and done it to their face.

    Breaking News at Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/limbaugh-signal-audience-cruz/2016/02/29/id/716726/#ixzz41qQxEJ6g
     
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