US Presidential election 2016

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  1. Beth B

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    Against Trump Fatalism

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/against-trump-fatalism/article/2001232


    And so we are now being treated to a wave of Donald Trump fatalism. Yes, he's defied expectations in a pretty remarkable way. Yes, he's won three of the first four GOP contests. Yes, he's ahead in the polls in the states coming up. Yes, he has an easier path to victory than any other candidate.

    But only four states—about 1.2 million people—have actually cast ballots. Trump has won about a third of the votes cast; Cruz and Rubio have each won a bit over a fifth. Trump leads in delegates with 81 out of the 133 selected—less than seven percent of those he needs to win the nomination. He trails Cruz in the biggest of the Super Tuesday states, Texas, and while Trump will almost certainly take the most delegates on March 1, it's unclear whether he'll win more like half or two-thirds of them. Even if he wins two-thirds, the March 15 winner-take-all states of Ohio, Florida, and Illinois will be fiercely contested.

    And this is all before further debates, before any sustained television advertising assault on Trump, while the other candidates are still (foolishly) sniping at each other instead of taking on Trump. And in a circumstance where the frontrunner has unusual vulnerabilities.


    So it's not the time for fatalism. It's the time to make the case against Trump, and to urge the other candidates to do a better job of making their own case (e.g., Cruz could follow Jeffrey Anderson's advice here, Rubio could remember that to be the man, you need to beat the man, and could actually take on Trump in tomorrow night's debate). More broadly, it's time to behave as active and self-governing citizens rather than as passive and navel-gazing fatalists.
     
  2. picadillo

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    Beth B,

    I would like to ask you what you think of the praise the pope has given to Emma Bolino (?), chief abortionist in Italy these past 30-40 years.
     
  3. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie


    I'm completely unaware of this! If it is true, there are no words that I would offer to defend this! None....

    I'll look into this now...I can't even imagine that this could be true...please provide me a source on this.

    Thank you.
     
  4. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    More ted cruz talking points on PP... Trump has many many times stated Abortion will end with PP, but PP also does other services for women that are good, says Trump... how Cruz doesn't get the distinction is beyond me...its the political season, soooo.
    And Obama care doesn't cover every women in the USA. Remember when Obama care was pushed on us, 20 -30 million Americans didn't have health care. So Ted Cruz push for Justice Roberts and gave us all Obamacare still doesn't cover 30 million Americans... Thanks Cruz/Roberts! This is a non argument on Trumps clear position, but Ted needs votes.... Ted and Marco were like windmills at the debate... Carl Rove opposition research anyone.... a page from Carls book! now, Koch brothers are funding Marco Rubio, 20 -25 million another 50 plus million in Trump ads.... seems they hit the airwaves yesterday...its all on Drudge.

    Who is the real Rubio? the Rubio up till last weds or Marco from Thursday nite on

    Cruz is getting backfire from the liberal pundits on Majior networks with Cruz saying Trump has Mob connections and Rubio is making kkk refs against Trump....wow these two buys are desperate..As Chris Christi said 2 days ago, these are the last days of Marco ....another Globalist 60th vote to pass the Trans Pacific Trade deal, undermines Congress to pass/reject Trade deals. Presidential stroke of a pen and its Law. Some say this is Americas death nail! Vote Rubio if you like the NWO....
    By the way, anyone notice when Trump made is blocking Muslims comment ow so many World leaders made comment? Now if Trumps a Globalist/NWO why would they respond? And when in US political history has foreign leaders spoke out against anyone running for President? Trump is a anti NWO/GLOBALIST that's why they spoke.

    Now...Rubio calling Trump a con artist...lol ..."we cant let a con artist take over our party" says Rubio...to late Rubio, your elite buddies who endorse you already have . Last elections, the GOP, oh elect back in and we will over turn Obama care and defund abortion. So we all once again get on the boat and give a strong victory. First week of business for the new Dominate Republican Congress. Abortion comes up, post poned to a later date, now they pass Obamas budget 2 TRILLION more to the already 19 Trillion deficit, so 21 Trillion and still abortion. and Obamacare... Vote establishment, yes they support Rubio....says it all!
     
  5. picadillo

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    This is on another thread here under Emma Bonino. Here is the article by Lifesite news:

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/p...rtion-promoter-one-of-nations-forgotten-great

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    Emma Bonino; Abortionist.

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      NewsAbortion, Catholic Church, Politics - WorldThu Feb 25, 2016 - 7:20 pm EST

      Pope calls Italy’s foremost abortion promoter one of nation’s ‘forgotten greats’
      abortion , catholic , emma bonino , pope francis

      February 25, 2016 (LifeSiteNews) -- In a February 8 interview with one of Italy’s most prominent dailies, Corriere Della Serra, Pope Francis praised Italy’s leading proponent of abortion – Emma Bonino -- as one of the nation’s “forgotten greats,” comparing her to great historical figures such as Konrad Adenauer and Robert Schuman. Knowing that his praise of her may be controversial, the Pope said that she offered the best advice to Italy on learning about Africa, and admitted she thinks differently from us. “True, but never mind,” he said. “We have to look at people, at what they do.”

      At 27, Bonino had an illegal abortion and then worked with the Information Centre on Sterilization and Abortion which boasted over 10,000 abortions. There are famous photos of Bonino performing illegal abortions using a homemade device operated by a bicycle pump. Arrested for the then-illegal activity she spent a few days in jail and was acquitted and entered politics.

      When she was appointed Italy’s foreign minister in 2013 there was a general outcry from life and family leaders at the appalling situation.

      Responding to the Pope’s praise of Bonino, pro-life leaders in Italy expressed disbelief. “How can the pope praise a woman that is best known in Italy for practicing illegal abortion and promoting abortion?” commented Msgr. Ignacio Barreiro, who was until last year the head of the Rome office of Human Life International.

      Luca Volonte, an Italian politician and the president of the pro-life Novae Terrae Foundation, told LifeSiteNews he believed the Pope “was not really informed about how much Mrs. Bonino has done in Italy and at the international level to promote abortion and euthanasia.” Even though he admits “she did well in Egypt,” he adds that even there “she promoted her anti-life values.” The Pope, said Volonte, “was wrong and worse were the members of His secretariat for not informing him.”

      The Pope’s possible ignorance of Bonino’s stance is unlikely given his justifications in the interview. She has been for decades the most prominent supporter of abortion in Italy. Moreover, the Pope already received criticism for his contact with Bonino in 2015 when he called her about her cancer and invited her to the Vatican.

      At the end of the day we shall be judged on love.
     
  6. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    GOP elite are the CON artists and pushing Rubio ! they must see something of a future in Rubio! Yes they (GOPe) didn't deliver the goods for any American so were faced with Trump the Nationalist or Hillary/ Rubio/Cruz Globalists/NWO ?

    Trump 2016
     
  7. Beth B

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    Donald Trump Retweets Post With Quote From Mussolini

    Trump says, "what difference does it make " (sound familiar)

    Donald J. Trump on Sunday morning used his Twitter feed to post a quote attributed to Benito Mussolini, the founder of the fascist movement, from a parody account. The tweet compared the Italian dictator to Mr. Trump, the Republican front-runner for the presidential nomination.

    The tweet was posted by Mr. Trump’s account at 6:13 a.m.

    Two different trump positions on this:

    Asked on NBC's "Meet the Press" about the tweet and whether Trump realized it was a Mussolini quote when he retweeted it, the GOP front-runner said he did realize and that it's an "interesting quote."

    "Look, Mussolini was Mussolini. It's okay to--it's a very good quote, it's a very interesting quote, and I know it," he said. "I saw it. I saw what--and I know who said it. But what difference does it make whether it's Mussolini or somebody else? It's certainly a very interesting quote."


    It’s a very good quote,” said Mr. Trump. “I didn’t know who said it, but what difference does it make if it was Mussolini or somebody else — it’s a very good quote.”
     
  8. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie


    Oh dear God...if this story is true...and accurate....I'm speechless. If our pope has praised her, rather than condemn her abortion career, then we have a big, big problem sitting in the chair of Peter. It is so unbelievable to me, that I cannot even find the words to express my outrage at this...

    Someone please help me here...

    Is there something that I don't know about this...? Is there a back story on this that was not covered in the life site article?

    If someone knows more about this other than what I reading here, please speak up!


    Edit:.

    The more I'm reading on this...the worse this woman looks.

    Catholics...we are in big trouble....God help us....
     
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  9. picadillo

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    Beth B,

    I recommend switching to the Emma Bonino thread for any more information. Some are spinning this as mercy.
     
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  10. Jackie

    Jackie Archangels

    Hard to believe primary results, Trump very well may get the nomination. :eek: Is Donald going to have a conversion experience? Right now and not to argue but we have to know, Rubio or Cruz, which one is most following God? Why do I think it is Cruz, Rubio has the grace given in the 7 Sacraments. ??? We can lose God's grace.

    I am a single issue person. I ask again, which one of the two is for no exceptions to abortion? Maybe neither
    one is so it is back to I can't mark the box for president next November.
     
  11. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie


    No....killing babies is NOT METCY! At some point, there are no more excuses! This is the ultimate.

    Need to switch threads...
     
  12. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Rubio is a total fraud. Gov Chris Christi gave Marko Rubio report card yesterday on Senate meetings attendance.... on average a 40% attendance for the comities Rubio is on...National Security, Cyber Security, Small business development... he listed like 6 or 7 comities.... 170 k a year....think I might run for office
     
  13. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Beth,
    this post has NO context. The Pastor is in error on the bimbo comment. Trump NEVER called megan Kelly a bimbo, he said she is not in reply to tweet sent to him of a megan Kelly 2010 lingerie shoot on a chair/ GQ mag. The tweet was the days around megan saying Trump objectifies women. Since megan kelly isn't empty headed ...read a def of bimbo
     
  14. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    you sure find the devil under every rock Beth...wow

    Mussolini also gave the Vatican walking papers, disconnected from the Nation of Italy which made the Vatican its own Nation/State....shall we look for new land to build now?
     
  15. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Rubio is soooo disgraceful over the david duke(kkk) endorcement that Trump disavowed on Friday! Rubio and the media want stronger words! GOP are acting like dems BIG time now! wow

    Trump , if he goes Independent im there!!!! The more I learn and listen to cruz/rubio ...ughhhh 2 train wrecks

    looking into links of Cruz wife and the CFR, ( council on Foriegn relationS) once CONDY RICE AID, THEN AID TO THE CHINA TRADE AGREEMENT and biometrics, allegedly, Teds wife is on some board. Ted wants biometrics for illegal aliens once he rounds them all up and deports so we know whos who....Cruz said this on O Reilly this past week, I watched and heard it live...biometrics are hand scans, even retna scans...scarry guy...Cruz rose with the Bushs in Texas
     
  16. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie



    So funny infant....

    Trump is getting pounded for pretending to not know who the KKK are. He expects us to actually believe that lie? Are you kidding? If he is that ignorant, then he is not fit to be prez. butttttt....we know that he was lying...he knows who the kkk are....and he knows who David Duke is...

    Why wouldn't trump disavow the kkk or white supremacy groups?

    http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2016/02/28/donald-trump-white-supremacists-david-duke-sotu.cnn
     
  17. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Well Beth,
    Trump did disavow david duke on Friday. So why is your boy Rubio on Sunday and the GOP stirrin the pot over nothing?! aka....some one vote for me...please

    Trumps twitter link... video from last Friday on david duke.... same BS was used against Bush when duke endorsed him....I guess your new to the political election time games Beth
    https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump

    scroll down a bit for short video clip
     
  18. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Big endorsement coming Trumps way soon /today.... Trump@5pm Alabama
    im thinking Jeff Sessions..... MAJIOR PLUS for Trump, after 3 Govs endorsments and 2 Great Sens

    Rally crowd was so yuggggge..... had to be moved to the football Stadium 25k peeps expected... online probably 5- 20k viewers...

    TRUMP 2016
     
  19. Infant Jesus of Prague

    Infant Jesus of Prague The More you Honor Me The More I will Bless Thee

    Majior Death threats against Trump...enhanced security weeks ago...
     
  20. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie


    Oh, me thinks it is DAVID DUKE....and all the white supremacy groups ??

    Supreme wizard of the kkk?

    But trump doesn't know any of those undesirables ??? Does he??

    Aren't the kkk catholic haters?
     
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