Unforgiveable Sin?

Goose...the only unforgivable sin is when you say to yourself..."my sin is greater than Gods mercy" This is a lie proposed by the devil himself...do not believe this. Your salvation has been bought by the blood of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ...let no one or sin convince you otherwise. Keep resisting, do not dispair and God in His good time will lead you to peaceful pasture. Fight...dig it out...get up...not till you draw your last breath will God give up on you. Go to confession...no...run to confession...crawl to confession if you have to...but do not let the enemy have another minute unchallenged. St James assist him.

 

God is so very,very great.

We are so very,very small.

A 1000 billion years in heaven and we shall only be at the very beginning of the beginning of it. Hardly taking our first step.

 

padraig...yes this makes me laugh...it makes me think of some old people who sit around moaning and groaning about being old. I can see God just chuckling saying to Himself...OLD ! ...you don't even know what old is! It is so true...we are just babes in creation even at a 100.

 

Goose, I'm so glad you are still here and still seeking God. I believe you DO have true repentence, and do not even realise how much your DESIRE for God, (despite being able to "feel" it) is in itself a great prayer! Your recognition of all your sins, and your wretchedness, is all a gift of the Holy Spirit. Perhaps your warning from God seems extreme, but some of us, including me, NEED to have great and terrible warnings, because of our strong will, we are always fighting against submission. This fight started for you at a young age because of the abuse you suffered, and you have never learned to give up your will. You may trust God. Do not trust anyone else on earth, but DO trust God. He will NOT forsake you no matter how bad you feel your soul is. I too will pray for you! Please pray for me too. All of us are on a very difficult journey. It is not God who makes it difficult but OURSELVES! God is loving you every moment, and every time you say you love Him, and give your day over to Him, He is feeling loved by you. Don't worry about "feelings" at all, as these are not any indication of truth. Also the devil can mess with these. An act of will toward God is much more real. Reading Faustina's Diary would be wonderful I too think for you, and saying the Divine Mercy Chaplet, or just saying the words "Jesus I trust in You" every time you think of it, would work wonders. Much love and peace in Christ! Lisa

 

Goose,

Do you not see? Your stubbornness is still a reality, but not victorious! Your return to the Forum reveals the Holy Spirit tugging at your heart. You do love God, but God loves you best! Return to Him in simplicity and trust; it is not complicated. Pray upon this passage from the Song of Songs, for it is Jesus speaking to your Heart!

O my dove, in the cleft of the rock, in the recess of the cliff, show me thy face, let your voice sound in my ears, for your voice is sweet and your face is lovely!

or this from Isaiah:

49:14 But Zion said, "The Lord has forsaken me, And the Lord has forgotten me." 15 "Can a woman forget her nursing child And have no compassion on the son of her womb? Even these may forget, but I will not forget you. 16 "Behold, I have inscribed you on the palms of My hands...

I will beg the Holy Spirit on your behalf in the coming months! May the love of Jesus melt, heal, and restore your heart! We love you, too!

Safe in the Refuge of the Immaculate Heart!

 

Hi Goose, don't be ashamed! We are all struggling in our own way. Remember that life here on earth is a pilgrimage. Some have a more difficult journey than others but we are all bombarded with doubt, tempted to sin. Take it one day at a time. Here are a few suggestions:

Try doing something simple at first ... try saying the Jesus prayer several times a day for yourself: "Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner." Or try saying a Hail Mary each morning and evening for yourself. I like to say three Hail Mary's before going to sleep each night.

God Bless You! I hope this helps.

 

I have changed my avatar just for you Goose! The picture is called "Forgiven". Hang in there and my prayers are with you!!

 

Prayers going up for you Goose!

 

One word of advice to you Goose.. find yourself a spiritual director (preferably a priest) and be obedient to their direction.. and you will have peace

 

I would say a good rule of thumb is that the person who committed such a sin would not be concerned about it in the first place.

For since such a sin is against the Holy Spirit, his/her conscience would not reproach them for it, since our conscience is informed by the Spirit, conscience being, 'Grace aided reason'.

 

Thank you everyone for your support and prayers, it has brought me comfort. I will read over your messages again and absorb them all. I will also reread over Sister Josefa's book, which I have a copy of. It is incredible how hard we make things for ourselves, my stubborn will has made the simple so complicated. I pray that it will soften and I will feel God's love for me again.

 

And I also pray a prayer of thanks and love for all of you on this forum.

 

Keep praying.

Prayer is the Bread of Faith, the Fuel of Love.

 

Goose, what I'm about to tell you is true and I want you to know it so that you may have some hope. I too once did some thing like what you did. I rejected the blood of the lamb openly after know who he was.
I felt so scared afterwards, in the days that followed I was so sure that Ihad committed the unpardonable sin, and a horrible fear gripped me so completely I was certain that god had abandoned me. My conciseness felt seared, when I sinned I felt no desire to repent. I was so certain hell was all that awaited me. Then last night I prayed my rosary crying to the holy mother to help me. And I found myself on YouTube listening to a young man who like us had committed the unforgivable sin, but there was something different about this young man, I could see hope and joy in him. He talked about how after praying to god fervently for days, he had a dream which convinced him to open his bible again and he was lead to a amazing revelation type in can the unforgivable sin be forgiven on YouTube and look for Jacob schriever. What struck me about what he had said was that god will chastise us fairly harshly when we majorly make him angry. But remember this, ours is the god of mercy, of forgiveness and the god who makes the impossible possible, and the unforgivable forgivable. Where sin aboundth grace more aboundth, and we are saved not by what we do, but by what Jesus did on the cross. If you have truly rejected god, then what you need to do, is pray, abandon your fear and pray with everything you have, god doesn't want you to die he loves you so much and wants you to come to him. Pray as hard as you can until you can hear him again. You know his voice so don't give up. God is not some cruel taskmaster who desires to hurt us but a loving father who desires our love and contrition. I know how horrible it must feel right now, but if god had truly left you, I promise that you would be unconcerned about you're fate. Trust me you would be unconcerned, because I have met people who have spat in the face of god, they don't seek his love or kindness or even seek repentance. I know nothing. I am not a bible scholar or even a missionary but right right now I know your pain and if I could reach out to hold you I would. Pray, keep praying until god answers you, I know it feels like he can't, ignore that feeling, just keep praying, nonstop with all your heart. Faith is a gift from god, if we have it even in the form of fear, then The Lord is still trying to save you. If you hope for gods love, then he will answer. Pray to the father, only that fear plugs your heart. Believe with all you have that he will hear and he will.

 

I have been someone who has been reading posts here for a few weeks now, but I feel like I am drowning, and I don't know where else to turn.

I will be frank upfront. I am a grave sinner. I am lukewarm, I suffer from same sex attraction (never physically acted on, but I still have deep emotional scars from an online only text encounter that I walked into, like a trap), I struggle with pornography addiction, I despair easily and am often depressed, I am a coward when it comes to speaking with others about religion, I have trouble with pride, I took mutltiple sacraments unworthily in the past (years ago), I have trouble with intrusive thoughts, I have a very bad temper when I am angry, and I have seen all sorts of films I should not have seen. I know that if I would die right now, I would go to hell, a place I don't want to go. But as horrible though as all these things are and they are indeed horrible, I still know that if I confess and truly amend my life , God will be willing to forgive, and I have gone to confession before....

But I fear that I will never have forgiveness. It isn't because of anything above, but because of Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. I hadn't had many visits to church in my younger years. The few times I went was for sacraments that I was not worthy to receive. My teenage years were filled with terrible sins. But from 2014 on, I felt regret for what I had done, and I wanted to get back to the church.

But one day in 2016, I heard about the unforgivable sin for the first time. I was trying to look online to see what I needed to confess in an examination of conscience, and I saw a link to something called "Eternal Sin". I clicked it because I feared that I was guilty of it.... Upon reading what it was, my mind went into overdrive with all those horrible, blasphemous thoughts. My mind was panicking. I was trying desperately not to give into the thoughts. I was writhing around in agony and kept having verbal panic spells begging God to help me. This went on for the rest of that day and much of the next. But unfortunately, a relative had never heard of the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and asked me to tell them what it was. I didn't want to answer. I kept begging not to answer it. I tried saying what it was via euphemisms but the relative didn't understand and kept asking. I grew weak , and I know I was angry and exhausted from the struggle at the time and I blurted out that the unforgivable sin was to say .... You can fill in the rest. I don't want to type it out. I can't.

Almost immediately after I said it, I felt this horrible feeling inside of me of the Holy Spirit leaving my soul, and although I was interiorly begging Him to stay, I felt him leave and my soul felt cold, dark, and scared. I started screaming and crying for nearly an hour straight, and the following days, I felt completely forsaken, that I had betrayed God that I lost my only chance at happiness. I was taken to confession about a week later where I confessed everything I could remember, and it felt at the time that a weight had been taken off from me.....

But the guilt of that night and that sentence has never gone away. Every year, I go through at least one period of grave despair. I have confessed what happened that one night multiple times...

But the past 14 months have been the worst with despair. Aside from maybe a 4 month interim, I have been under a cloud of the deepest despair. This current spell came after reading an article from a Catholic periodical referring to the blasphemy as being unforgivable. God knows I said the words out loud, he knows I defamed the Holy Spirit. I know all too well what it says in the gospel of Mark where Jesus says that "whoever speaks a word against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin, for they....". I have been going through all sorts of statements from saints and it seems so confusing because some saints say it is a verbal insult against the Holy Spirit, others say it is in deliberately misattributing miracles, St. Augustine says it is final impenitance, St. Catharine says God told her it was the refusal or scorn of his mercy. The 1950s Catholic dictionary says it is misattributing miracles out of pure malice (did I commit it out of pure malice?) Even the Catechism seems contradicting.... A section about purgatory mentions an early said saying " He who is Truth says that whoever utters blasphemy of the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness", but then section 1864 says it is the refusal of mercy. I am baffeded, and terrified. It just feels as though what the priests have told me about it being able to be forgiven is at odds with the passage in Mark especially.

I want desperately to get back to confession. I know my sin is deep in grave sin. I know from the disturbing events going on that what was warned about at Fatima, Garabandal, and Akita is on the verge of happening. I am terrified, and fear dying of fright on the day of the Warning. But I am paralyzed from going to confession, because I fear that even if I confess it yet again, I am still doomed because I spoke the words. I am worried constantly. I gave slipped back into bad old habits. I am scared to even open a bible, and I have slacked off a bit of prayers. I want to get back to God and back to praying the Rosary, but I am scared... I fear that all the times I took Communion in the years after the incident were a grave act of sacrilege now.... Currently, I am only praying 7 Hail Marys for the 7 Sorrows and 6 prayers in memory of Jesus' bloodshed every day, coupled with maybe a guardian angel prayer or one Holy face prayer. But it isn't enough for salvation, and I feel crippled by the unforgivable sin. Please help me. I am desperate.

 

I am also deeply afraid for the spiritual well being of the relative who asked me the question years ago. Said relative is not Catholic, but Protestant and the ralitive aays that they don't believe there is such a thing as an unforgivable sin. Is my relative doomed aswell as an accessory to sin? Because I would hate my self even more if that was true because I want their soul to be saved via conversion.

 

I think of the unforgiveable sin as being something like this:

A young man one day went out for a swim in a beautiful cool looking lake on a hot summers day despite all the notices round about warning him it was dangerous to do so. After a while,sure enough he got into difficulties and began to flail and drown.

Several passers by spotted the poor lad and began to try to help his , one or two even jumping in to swim out to his to help. But the young man had long since took the idea that the whole world was against him and became very cynical and full of hate. So when his rescuerers drew near he punched and spat at them. Eventually he drowned because he took those who tried to help him and their aid as evil.

I think this is the unforgiveable sin that we take grace as evil, so we refuse to accept that which is a grace because we take it to be evil.

In the case of Jesus they took took the Messiah the Lamb of God to be evil and of the Devil. Thus they took good to be evil.

The sin is unforgiveable not because God refuses to forgive but because we turn our backs on the forgiveness.

Most of us will, I believe face this temptation on our Death Beds. The temptation to despair. The temptation to believe that Gods mercy cannot reach as far as us. Whereas in fact God's Mercy is infinite.

[Jesus said,] Souls that make an appeal to My mercy delight Me. To such souls I grant even more graces than they ask. I cannot punish even the greatest sinner if he makes an appeal to My compassion (Diary, 1146).

 

1 Timothy 1

1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, which is our hope;

2 Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.

3 As I besought thee to abide still at Ephesus, when I went into Macedonia, that thou mightest charge some that they teach no other doctrine,

4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.

5 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:

6 From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling;

7 Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.

8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;

9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

11 According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust.

12 And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry;

13 Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.

14 And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.

17 Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

18 This charge I commit unto thee, son Timothy, according to the prophecies which went before on thee, that thou by them mightest war a good warfare;

19 Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck:

20 Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.

 

This biblical passage I mentioned above is by no means a concession to sin freely; rather, it is an invitation to turn despair into humiliation before God and sincere contrition, as Paul did during his glorious ministry. As for the case of Hymenaeus and Alexander, we see that Paul handed them over to Satan so that they would learn not to blaspheme anymore. In other words, he did not hand them over to their own deep and irreparable lusts, which would lead them to condemnation, but allowed them to be punished by the hands of Satan so that they might be converted and glorify God again in a deep and true way.