Trump & Vance Humiliated Zelensky

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  1. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    Russia would be consecrated and converted. There are very few countries mentioned in the Fatima prophecy, and one of them is Portugal, a nation that Our Lady promised would preserve the dogma of the faith. This remains an unfathomable mystery for many minds. However, if it is the will of our Heavenly Mother, it must be fulfilled in some way—especially considering that, amid the current crisis in the pontificate, Fatima has been a safe refuge for people to remain in the Church. After all, the apparition foresaw the present scenario in the Third Secret.

    Our Lady linked peace to the consecration of Russia and devotion to her Immaculate Heart—a devotion that is still in Babylonian captivity in Russia, as the country prohibits Catholic proselytism. In fact, when the red knight of abortion left Russia in 1917, leaving a trail of blood across the world, he never stopped haunting the nation that pioneered his cause. Russia has the highest number of abortions per fertile woman in the world. Moreover, last year, Putin himself rejected the request of the Russian Orthodox Church to ban the practice nationwide.

    What we see today is the triumph of Moloch, but when Russia converts, it will undoubtedly render a great service to the Catholic cause worldwide. Until then, we are grateful for the little freedom we still have to engage in proselytism and spread the devotions Our Lady requested—including in this forum. We also appreciate the freedom to interpret Catholic prophecies as we see fit.
     
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  2. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    I find it plausible that the US 'victory' in Syria, with the non-intervention of Russia might have been a preliminary for the events we have now-Israel gets 'Greater Israel' and Russia gets NATO to retreat. The Turks have traditionally been very wary of Russia, and if NATO is effectively emasculated it will be even more so.
     
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  3. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    I didn't say that Vance is weak. I just thought that the episode with Zelensky was untypical of his usual very measured style. I haven't seen a whole lot of him, so maybe my assessment of his style is wrong.

    There are reports of a shouting match in Kiev between Zelensky and Trump's Treasury Secretary. The episode in the Oval Office could have been an attempt to show the American public that Zelensky isn't the upstanding guy portrayed in the media. It sure looked staged to me.
     
  4. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

    I agree. I believe both Trump, Vance, and Marco Rubio fully expected Z to sign the agreement. Z went into the meeting with an attitude knowing that he was not going to comply.
     
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  5. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    Yes, and Erdogan doesn't want the Kurds to get too comfortable. The Kurds are a US proxy. The headchopper-turned-president is giving Syrian citizenship to Uighur fighters. That should go down a treat with Xi in China. We really don't know the half of what's actually going on.
     
  6. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

    Here is a different theory. The globalists are trying to set global conditions for a black plague event worldwide, which we all know. But they are actively trying to recreate the all the parameters which led to outbreaks historically as well as new ones.

    Chemtrails - block out the sun, allegedly are full of heavy metals which mess with the immune system
    Lowered nutrition levels - lower nutrition in food, poison in food (additives, pesticides, GMO, ...)
    Destroying Food Supply - killing off egg laying hens, cattle and other animals
    Vaccines - destroy immune systems further with heavy metals, God knows what else they do
    Frequencies - wifi, cellphones, alledgedly wreak in bodies havoc as they interact with heavy metals
    Economy - inflation, possible market crash, making it harder to eat healthy and have access to healthy living situations
    Water - fluoride poisoning
    Pharma - never heals disease but prescribes meds which deplete the body
    Vectors for spreading disease - lgbtq, GMO insects/microbes
    Immigration - added stress and hostilities which will add to chaos as systems break down

    And lastly, World War - adds extra chaos to the above
    https://www.historydefined.net/ten-of-the-most-terrible-years-to-be-alive/

    The globalists are actively trying to create WWIII as a final "coup de grace" to their plan which is why Zelensky will never back down. Obviously, this list is by no means exhaustive. Now that the US is apparently no longer involved, it is up to the puppets in Europe to try and goad the war with Russia.
     
  7. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I get very, very bad vibes about Zekensjky.

    Bad news
     
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  8. PurpleFlower

    PurpleFlower Powers

    He was twitching and rubbing his eyebrow and being super shifty through the whole meeting with Trump and Vance. His body language made it very clear that he was up to no good and couldn't stand being there with Trump. He was never interested in negotiations. He only wants all-out war against Putin, and the vibe I get from him is that he is a very immature young man that has been placed in a role by others for some reason. I can't help thinking his weird immoral behavior in his pre-president life drew attention to him from shady places and set him on this path. All of it sits very badly in my spirit.
     
  9. AED

    AED Powers

    Zelensky was there to sign the minersls/rare earth agreement. After failing to sign three times before. Everyone was in expectation that this would take place but Zelensky demanded American troops on the ground. DJT wouldn't do it. That'd when it all broke down. Word on the street is that Susan Rice and some other Obama hacks coached him before the meeting. True or not someone gave him very bad advice.
     
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  10. AED

    AED Powers

    I think you are right.
     
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  11. Mario

    Mario Powers

    We must turn to the covering of prayer concerning this international meltdown. If Russia smells hesitation on the part of the USA (coupled with NATO sword-waving), Putin might eccelerate the offensive in Ukraine. :notworthy::notworthy::notworthy:

    Lord have Mercy!
     
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  12. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    Me too. He became famous in Ukraine when he played the part on TV of a nobody who was elected President. I'm fairly sure that the TV station was owned by this man: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihor_Kolomoyskyi

    Note the connection with the bank and the gas company. I didn't read through the wiki page so I don't know if it mentions the connection between the bank, transfer of funds from the US, the gas company and Hunter Biden.

    Zelensky and the oligarch subsequently parted ways and, as far as I know, the Oligarch moved to Israel.
     
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  13. jackzokay

    jackzokay Powers

    No... He's referring to Zelensky and Trump and JD. As I say, its a bit of a rant.
     
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  14. InVeritatem

    InVeritatem Archangels

    I don't believe for one moment that this was staged - certainly not by the Trump team. We saw raw live politics in action caused by Zelensky's disgust for the Trump team, his sense of entitlement and his lack of respect for the Office of the President and Vice President. He had no intention of signing the minerals deal without extracting what he viewed as a more tangible security commitment from Trump.

    Meggan Kelly does a good analysis of it. Thankfully, Vice President put a stop to any further attempt to humiliate President Trump in public and supported his President.



    I would imagine the Russians are not too keen on a minerals deal between Ukraine and the US due to the implicit security backstop it implies although they it seems would be prepared to proceed through the diplomatic process. The word on the Military Summary channel is that the Russian Generals have been visiting the front lines giving their last orders before some kind of big offensive. Don't know how reliable that info is. Our Lady Queen of Peace, pray for us and give peace to the whole world!

    I have long thought that I could discern a demonic presence about Zelensky. Something about his voice and eyes. I am not saying he is a devil. But rather afflicted. Lord, I pray for his deliverance through the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary. Indeed I pray likewise for President Putin and all the leaders.
     
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  15. miker

    miker Powers

  16. Exactly how I read the room.
     
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  17. Ananchal

    Ananchal Vigilans

    What I think Z means when he says he wants guarantees is he wants Ukraine in NATO and that would undoubtedly push Russia to align with China and start WW3. The mineral rights would give the US an excuse to protect Ukraine because the US would be protecting their personnel and undoubtedly other Americans who would then be in Ukraine
     
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  18. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    Wow. That video, especially the early part of the meeting changes the whole context. It wasn't staged.
     
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  19. Santa Fe

    Santa Fe Principalities

    Not staged, no. But one must remember that the President of the USA and VP Vance totally have the inside track and all the intelligence on Zelensky.

    And they know that the people who voted them into power are sick and tired of financing that war.

    The American people have spoken and they want their hard earned tax dollars to go to their own national causes, and rightly so. Enough is enough.

    Alot had already happened between them which led up to the final showdown. For example as JD said, Zelenski had come over to USA previously to campaign for Biden to win and we all know why he wanted Biden to win.

    And his meeting last Friday morning with his US Democrat advisors! What a snake! One only has to watch some of his comedian acts to see he's morally bankrupt. I've seen him in a dress and stilletos and I cannot ever forget that.

    It was fantastic to see how President Trump and JD stood up for each other during the altercation. And all I could think was WOW! Trump has chosen a VP who is a true statesman and will make a very fine President if anything (God Forbid ) should happen to Trump.

    It was awesome to behold. I live far from America these days, but it has rocked my world! I just cannot stop thinking about it. And now the weapons have been halted. And the UK and Europe are scrambling to step up to the plate, after letting America do the heavy lifting in the Ukraine war for years.

    Shocking, appalling of them - but they will need to defend their own back yard now.

    It is Shrove Tuesday evening here in my country now, and I need to give up the Motheofgod Forum for 40 days because of giving up social media and technology for Lent.

    I will miss following this incredible drama With you all. See you again at Easter, have a blessed Lent, everyone !
     
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  20. Marygar

    Marygar Byron

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