Trump & Vance Humiliated Zelensky

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  1. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    Tulsi Gabbards reversal on her anti war position is also mind boggling.

     
  2. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Yes. The Fix as they say appears to be in.

    But who is doing the fix and how do they do it.

    I hope Candace Owens stays safe, she is in dangerous, dangerous, dangerous territory.
     
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  3. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

    Great post, triggered a few things for me and touched up on a few things coming to mind as of late. Hopefully free speech will continue and a lot of this is exposed and people get educated.

    The Talmud seems like a book written to get around God's laws. Oddly enough, when I look at the 10 commandments, while I know they are for everyone, I get a sneaking suspicion they were written primarily as a warning for the very people who take power by breaking them. Worshiping a false God, lying constantly, stealing constantly, murdering constantly, spreading sexual immorality, all of it. I can't help but think of the Jews for the gospel reading today. Cabal jews quandering their inheritance on evil while big brother Catholics gripe.

    There have been rumors circulating that the rothschilds have integrated themselves into and captured the Royal bloodline in England. Of course we will never know the truth of this. But it would appear the enemy has been using England as a kind of launch pad for centuries now and makes sense in terms of the larger picture as to why Ireland has been attacked so much since the reformation. Ireland was the keeper of Catholicism for many centuries and I believe that this is why Satan attacks it so hard. As well, God uses evil for good, so as you mentioned the Irish spread Catholicism around the world during the famine. One point which is extremely interesting for me regarding this very thing is how the US now seems to be backing up Ireland to a degree currently. I believe more is coming from this relationship which would not have happened without the Irish leaving Ireland, as hard as it was. It's like the Irish and their mixed blood descendants in the US are a kind of tribe without borders. God continues to play His Hand with the Irish.
     
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  4. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

    Owens is gambling IMO and might not be thinking clearly. The allegations are large and the evidence isn't proof of anything.
     
  5. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Whether the US will continue to back up Ireland is very doubtful. Ireland is far more vulnerable to the Trump administration's sanctions than any other country. This is Ireland's own fault for continually failing to develop its own indigenous industries, while looking for get-rich quick solutions, such as a property boom that went bust very spectacularly and a unique dependence on US pharmacological and IT investment.
     
  6. I'm with Candance. She will always back up her stuff...if not she knows she can be sued for slander. Most politicians are controlled through blackmail, it's pretty obvious especially when they switch their platforms once the are elected.
     
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  7. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

    Olivia Nuzzi and Jessica Ried Krauss are clearly being paid to do political hit jobs, no question. They tried to do a "clean shot" and made a total mess and it is absolutely hilarious how Candace is now exposing and destroying them. But the only links to RFK Jr. is a sexting scandal with Nuzzi and a really weird license plate number on the car she drives that begins with RFK. Not exactly a good way to keep previous adultery discrete. This is where I think Owens is gambling and let her anger cloud her judgement. She pushed the conspiracy too far in regards to RFK Jr. She even says she's angry, and rightfully so.

    I am completely happy she did expose some of the stuff RFK Jr is up to and I look forward to seeing where this goes. These kinds of questions regarding his need defend Shmuley and Israel need to be asked.

    All these weird jewish characters who are never in the main story but promote themselves like as if they are. Like Laura Loomer and Ben Shapiro. There are rumors circulating that the Daily Wire is going under, which is suspect because if it happens it will happen after USAID funding was cut. It is suspected to be a mossad controlled media outlet. If this happens Jordan Peterson may suddenly fade into obscurity with it.
     
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  8. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I especially liked Candace for her apology for working with the Zionists at the Daily Wire. So few people admit to making mistakes especially big ones and she did so publically. My sense of Candace is that she is taking her Faith seriously and is on a Spiritual Pilgrimage as I suppose we all should be.

    She lost a lot by becoming a Catholic, but of course she gained everything. Its so good to have someone we can admire and believe and trust in. I admire and believe and trust in Candace.

    One thing I would love her to do though is to step back and look at the broader picture, not to get caught up in the nuts and bolts of things so much.


    One thing I can't help noticing is how many of these prominent Catholic become Trad.

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  9. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Peterson has recently firmly nailed his colours to the mast, so he won't be any loss. Another fraud.
     
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  10. AED

    AED Powers

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  11. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    One thing you can know with absolute certainty is that Orangina knows a whole lot more than I about European history. Frankly I never really thought of myself as "European". Anyway, it would probably take a lifetime of study to get more than a cursory understanding of all the boundary changes, regime changes, scheming, treachery and wars that resulted in today's boundaries and Christians killing Christians. I'd be more worried about how that passage from Ezekiel applies to the people of God (Christians) today.

    There's nothing new under the sun. Gnosticism was around in Apostolic times: Read about Simon Magus here: https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103123.htm

    I've seen Hegel praised as the Protestant Aquinas. He certainly supported the French Revolution but his admirers say now that he was less enthusiastic about the bloodbath. I've heard Victor Davis Hanson say something along the same lines about the French Revolution. He blamed the slaughter on the Jacobins. Marx, Engels and Moses Hess started out as Young Hegelians before moving on to socialism and communism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Hegelians
    Old Hegelians portray Hegel as a devout Lutheran: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Hegelians

    A fresh look at what Hegel really believed gives a different perspective. This from a Protestant website: https://theopolisinstitute.com/leithart_post/hegel-and-hermes/
    If hermeticism is as new to you as it was to me, here's what wikipedia says about it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermeticism
    Hegel wasn't a Mason but it sure looks like he was a gnostic.

    The so-called free-thinking Enlightened ones and their supposed love of science has brought us to the stage where blasphemy is lauded but saying that a man can't give birth to a baby is cause for cancellation. Thanks to centuries of indoctrination have resulted in people who never heard of Simon Magus, the Kabbala or set foot in a Lodge accept distortions as absolute truth. The masses can easily be controlled by fear. Covid hysteria is a recent example.

    Incidentally, Marx, Engels and Moses Hess started out as Young Hegelians before moving on to socialism/communism. Moses Hess and his "Rome and Jerusalem" were an inspiration for Theodor Herzl's Zionist ambitions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses_Hess
    I read Rome and Jerusalem on a Jewish website but the link doesn't show up now. Wikipedia doesn't mention how Hess had a kind of hierarchy of people on the evolutionary process towards becoming gods. His pecking order had the Germans, British and Frenxh next in line to the Jews. He sure got that wrong.
     
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  12. childofdivinewill

    childofdivinewill Archangels

    Godless Modernism has taken over the world (George Farmer’s talk)


    For those who have no time to watch the whole clip, at least the last three minutes:
    timestamp 30:13–33:40



     
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  13. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

    You wont understand any of this unless you take the time to watch the video and pay full attention because there are many many details. I like this sort of stuff so I took the time. But just know it isn't anything you absolutely need to know. That being said, it will give anyone who watches it a better idea of how things operate behind the scenes in terms of the politics of propaganda.
     
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  14. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    Nowadays it has something to do with China, the belt and road initiative and Chinese access to oil and gas. It's the sane story with the Arctic and access to oil, gas and rare earth minerals. Roughly half the access is controlled by Russia with the rest shared between seven countries: the USA through Alaska, Canada, Denmark via Greenland, Finland, Iceland, Norway and Sweden. The Russians have invented solar powered icebreakers and the Chinese have plans for a polar silk route through the shipping lanes. Finland joining NATO had nothing to do with protecting Ukraine. These conflicts are about economic dominance.
     
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  15. Whatever

    Whatever Powers

    You're right about the more recent invading Jewish settlers are religion based Zionists who aspire to rebuilding the Temple. The Torah believing Jews who lived in Jerusalem believed that turning away from sin would bring the Messiah and restoration. That was probably what the majority believed when Herzl began his Zionist movement. They just wanted a safe place that Jews could call home. If memory serves me, it was the Russian Jews who swung the vote in favour of Palestine at the Zionist Congress. The strongest opposition to Herzl's Zionism came from orthodox rabbis.

    Eventually the Zionists found a respected rabbi who said it was possible to reconcile orthodoxy with political zionism and gradually political zionism infiltrated and became the majority of traditional as well as modernist reformed Jews.

    So, what do we know for sure?

    That the Jews won't be wiped out because the Bible tells us that all Israel (God's first chosen) will be converted, bringing the return of Jesus.

    Does that mean that the Jews will be an identifiable group of people? I think it does.

    Will they be in the promised land? Maybe. They can be converted anywhere. We know that Jesus will return to Jerusalem but we don't know whether there will be a period of time between their conversion and the return of Jesus.

    Does there need to be a rebuilt temple before the second coming? Maybe. The Bible mentions the abomination of desolation being set up in the holy place. Didn't that happen when the Romans placed a statue of a false God in the tabernacle before they destroyed the second temple? Could it happen again? Yes, but a temple built now for animal sacrifice wouldn't be a holy place. The Church of the Holy Sepulchre is the most holy place in Jerusalem now.

    Some early Church Fathers believed that the Temple will be rebuilt and that the AC will take his seat there. I think that St. Iranaeus was one of those Fathers.

    The great commission was to baptise all nations. We know that there will be a great falling away of the faithful before the end. Half the world hasn't yet had the opportunity to hear the Gospel and be baptised. How can they apostatise from a faith they never had?

    The Catechism tells us that the final deception will be man believing that he is God. That tells me that the most dangerous strand of Zionism is the secular modernist strand. That secular zionism is very similar to the rise in gnosticism we are seeing in post-Christian countries. I've already posted this link in my reply to PaxPrima but it's worth posting again, It's what St. Iranaeus wrote about Simon Magushttps://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0103123.htm: Maybe I'm delusional but I see so many similarities between what St. Iranaeus said about Simnn and Menander and what secular Zionists in collusion with pseudo/lapsed Christians have been pushing on the world.

    Apologies, I've edited the above to say that I think it's the secularnstrand of zionism that's most dangerous. I should really read and correct these posts before submitting them.
     
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  16. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    I think you're right. It's difficult to avoid having a certain sympathy for people who act for genuine religious reasons, even if wrong, but there's nothing more annoying than atheists hypocritically using religious arguments for their own worldly ends and, I think, Netanyahu is one example of this. Some secular Jews speak of the Jewish people themselves being their own messiah-a hugely hubristic and dangerous idea.

    A temple for animal sacrifice stopped working after the Crucifixion; it isn't going to magically work again.

    St Irenaeus sounds like he got the right of it.
     
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  17. orangina

    orangina Archangels

    Thank you for your kind words. Believe me, I have learned a lot from your posts, but also from other forum members like De Gaulle, Pax Prima, etc. And I can say that you're right. In general, the problem with viewing history is that events are observed without context or only through the lens of primary ideology. Every conflict is a consequence of the fall, or the struggle between good and evil, manifesting in human behavior—desire for power, wealth, greed, lust, selfishness... If we look at the Bible, this is actually the first fall, where man desired to be like God, driven by ego and the pursuit of power and greed. In fact, all of human history is like this, from the Tower of Babel to numerous Jewish kings who turned their backs on God and began worshipping false gods, putting themselves above God, to the Roman and Greek emperors who proclaimed themselves gods... all the way up to today. I would even say that the Bible, even if I weren't a believer, is, from a rational perspective, the best psychological book that exists because none describes human behavior, its consequences, egoism, greed, lust so well, and yet, on the other hand, it also describes the virtues like loyalty, selflessness, love, and forgiveness.

    Here we come to God's wisdom. On one hand, we have a man who, by all means, wants to become God—through conquest, killing, money, and subjugating others—and so, from the beginning, he falls into the same trap as Satan did when he wanted to become God, all the way to today... On the other hand, we have God who becomes man, meaning He descends into the body of a lower sinful species and is born within that same species as the weakest of them all. It’s as if we, humans, become animals and then take someone from the bottom of the hierarchy as our status.

    And not only that, but having descended among a lower species, this God fully surrenders Himself to be tortured, humiliated, and killed by that same species in order to save it and make it "gods," because we become part of Christ's mystical body. And this is not only in the final salvation but also in the instances of bread and wine, where He leaves Himself as the supreme divinity for us to take every time we go to the mass.

    Those who seek to be the greatest and become gods pass away like dust and ashes, leaving no trace. But those who are the smallest, God lifts up to the heavens, to His throne at the table of the saved. When human history is truly simplified, amidst all those events, wars, and turmoil, we actually come to this... By the way, when I mentioned this, the greatest Roman persecutor of Christians, and one of the greatest ever, was the Roman emperor Diocletian, who made himself a cult of divine personality that Christians refused to worship. He ruled until 311 AD, and a few years earlier, he retired to our country, Croatia( then northen part of Roman Empire), specifically to the city of Split, where he had the Diocletian's Palace built. The palace is still well-preserved today and is a symbol of the city of Split. Inside that palace is his tomb (mausoleum). However, as God has the final word, that very tomb of the greatest persecutor of Christians became the smallest cathedral in the world in the 7th century and it is still in function, and this cathedral was named after Saint Duje, the bishop of Solin now patron saint of the city of Split, whom Diocletian had killed during the persecutions. If ever you find yourself in Croatia for a vacation, I highly recommend a visit.

    This is how the palace looked in the 4th century.
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    The Cathedral of Saint Duje, former tomb of Emperor Diocletian.

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  18. orangina

    orangina Archangels

    I agree, Greenland as well as the Panama Canal are strategically important control routes. In fact, in 1946, the Americans wanted to buy Greenland for about 100 million dollars in gold at that time. Trump is more blunt in his approach, but any American administration would act the same way, just more wrapped up in a different approach, at least for the public, but there are always attempts to topple governments of states that "don’t listen", with blackmail or threats. Here, Chinese economic programs related to buying ports and connecting the Mediterranean Sea – the Adriatic Sea, and then the route to Central Europe (Austria, Germany) were sabotaged from the start, even though the Chinese offered the best deals for port concessions in the city of Rijeka. It's similar to how the Nord Stream from Russia was literally sabotaged, or when the Chinese wanted to buy the largest European seaport, Hamburg, that was blocked by the USA, as well as a military base in the UAE, etc. There is no friendship here, only interests... Europe was the center, but now that center is shifting more towards Asia, so China and Iran, due to Israel, are becoming the main targets... Although the war with Russia still continues, I think Trump played dirty and he has to follow the orders of his "sponsors" who have the final say, so the war continues indefinitely.

    Yemen represents a threat to Israel's trade, especially since the largest portion of goods is still transported through maritime routes, and they serve as a proxy for Iran. Because of this, regardless of the casualties, Yemen will continue to be a target and has been a target since 2016, when the war with Saudi Arabia began, and the USA also bombed them back then. As for the NATO alliance, it's a dead letter on paper. More or less, the military supplies of EU countries have been sent to Ukraine, and in this way, military reserves have been greatly depleted. They cannot be replenished in the next 10 years, even if capacities are increased (and they won't be).

    Europe has been demilitarized.
     
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  19. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Mention of Hegel and the so-called 'Enlightenment' brings to my mind the ideas of our modernists and progressives, who hold the worldviews and ideas of those who lived before this period in complete contempt. They are blinded by the benefits of technology and believe narratives that reduce all being to mere material and mechanism. In disconnecting themselves from the wisdom of the Ancients and the Middle Ages, they are cutting off the branch which the latter provided for them to sit upon.
     
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  20. orangina

    orangina Archangels



    There is that saying, intelligent people invent fashion, and "fools" follow it.

    Today’s generation of progressives is a copy of the Prodigal Son, wasting wealth, but more of the moral kind than the material one, earned through the toil, sweat, and blood of previous generations, living as if the consequences won’t be felt tomorrow. They are cut off from their past, wandering into the future. People who don’t know where they came from, don’t know where they’re going, are reduced to animal-like behavior, which is why there is hyperstimulation of sexuality, drugs, alcohol – they are trying to amplify the immediate pleasure of the body, eliminating any spiritual state except their own ego (which is why we see the rise of yoga, Eastern spirituality, Buddhism, New Age, etc.).

    Cut off from the past, convinced of their own intelligence, with high egos, and subject to the body, they are the perfect tool for easy manipulation.

    However, this only applies to the middle and lower class self-proclaimed liberals. Lost sheep, nothing more...

    Then, there is the upper class of progressives and modernists. That is a completely different story... Although they pretend to be non-religious on the outside, they worship their prince. They are not deceived, they know and are aware of their role. The cult of worship and ritual is no younger than the traditions of the Catholic Church, all the way back to Moses, only these sacrifices are not offered to God. Here, I’m not referring to lower members of Masonic lodges and Rotary clubs who want to achieve personal gain and are willing to engage in certain practices to reach their goal, not knowing what they are getting into. I’m referring to those who are the extended arm of hell because I have no other expression. These gatherings of extremely high and influential people are where human sacrifices and occult practices take place, and if ordinary people had insight into them, they would immediately return to the right path. But, as the saying goes, the greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing people he didn’t exist.

    Kabbalah rituals are especially well-known, but they gained full influence in the West through their association with Freemasonry. The first book on this subject was written in 1797 by the Scottish inventor and famous British scientist and mathematician John Robison, with the help of Benedictine priest Horn, under the title Proofs of a Conspiracy against all the Religions and Governments of Europe, carried on in the secret meetings of Freemasons, Illuminati, and Reading Societies. It was based on events during the French Revolution and the ideas of the modern Enlighteners. The following year, the book was sent to George Washington as a warning, and he responded to it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Robison_(physicist)
     

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