The warning second coming

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  1. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I reread the messages.
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    I don't think they offend against scripture of Catholic teaching. Also they are fully in line with conteporay Catholic Prophesy. A big bonus with them is that they have a timetable of some events to happen over the next few months so..

    But I have to say when I read the words of Jesus in these messages no bells went of in my heart, I did not hear the accents of heaven.

    For instance when you read the words of the Sacred Heart to Margaret Mary, 'Behold this heart that so loves men...' Its pure poetry, it give you goose pimples..bells ringing all over the place...

    But not these messages they seem almost prosaic; pedantic.

    But as I mentioned I can't say they're not true or not worthy of belief. Just no bells.

    We'll see. There's no doubt about that at least, either way and see very shortly.
     
  2. Lee

    Lee Principalities

    There's been a flurry of activity on her site since Thursday when this one was posted. This one confirms what Padraig had said about Pope Benedict.
    http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/pope-benedicts-day-are-now-numbered/

    The call is strong to focus on Our Lord, to pray and trust, to live by faith not by sight. I feel like such a child, unable to do anything else.
     
  3. Lee

    Lee Principalities

    This makes me think we are very close.

    Two comets will collide, My cross will appear in a red sky

    Sunday 5th June 2011 16.30 hours

    My dearly beloved daughter time is near. The Warning is close now. It is with great sorrow that I must tell you that many souls will not heed these messages about The Warning. My word falls on deaf ears. Why won’t they listen? I am not only giving them My great gift of Mercy when I will shower My graces over the whole world, I am also trying to prepare them for this event. Many millions of sinners will rejoice when they are shown My great mercy. Others won’t get a chance to redeem them selves in time because they will die of shock.

    My daughter you must do everything you can to warn the world. Because this great event will shock everyone. They will see great signs in the skies before The Warning takes place. Stars will clash with such impact that man will confuse the spectacle they see in the sky as being catastrophic. As these comets infuse a great red sky will result and the sign of my cross will be seen all over the world by everyone. Many will be frightened. But I say rejoice for you will see, for the first time in your lives, a truly Divine Sign that represents great news for sinners everywhere.

    See My cross then and you will know that My great mercy is being given to each of you, My precious children. For it was with the deep abiding love that I held for you that I died, willingly, on the cross to save you. When you see the crosses in the sky during The Warning you will know that this is a sign of My love for you.

    Pray My beloved followers that your brothers and sisters can rejoice when they, too, are shown the proof of My existence. Pray that they will accept that this is their chance to redeem themselves in My eyes. That this great act of Mercy will save their souls if they will allow Me to help them.

    You will be shown what it is like to die in mortal sin

    The Warning will be a purifying experience for all of you. It may be unpleasant in part especially for those in grave sin. Because for the first time ever you will be shown what it feels like when the light of God disappears from your life. Your souls will feel the abandonment felt by those who die in mortal sin. These poor souls who left it too late to ask God to forgive them their sins. Remember it is important that I allow all of you to feel this emptiness of soul. For only then will you finally understand that without the light of God in your souls you cease to feel. Your soul and body would be just empty vessels. Even sinners feel the light of God because he is present in every one of his children on earth. But when you die in mortal sin, this light no longer exists.

    Prepare now for this great event. Save your souls while you can. For it will only be when the light of God leaves you that you will finally realise the empty, barren and darkness that Satan offers which is full of anguish and terror.

    Replenish your souls. Rejoice now for The Warning will save you and bring you closer to My Sacred Heart.

    Welcome the Warning. For then you will be given the proof of Eternal Life and know how important it is.

    Your Beloved Saviour

    Jesus Christ

    King of Mankind
     
  4. jmj

    jmj New Member

    I haven't heard of the description of the warning before. The messages that I've read are similar, repetitive. What I remember is a great light being seen in a darkness covering the earth. In that light, we will see how we look before God. Then a bright cross will emerge from that light, Jesus will appear on the cross, and we will see Him bleeding.

    But, we know it will happen soon in a magnificent way. We need to really pray for the unvelievers, especially those who have no one to pray for them.
     
  5. jmj

    jmj New Member

    I haven't heard of the description of the warning like that before. The messages that I've read are similar, repetitive. What I remember is a great light being seen in a darkness covering the earth. In that light, we will see how we look before God. Then a bright cross will emerge from that light, Jesus will appear on the cross, and we will see Him bleeding.

    But, we know it will happen soon in a magnificent way. We need to really pray for the unvelievers, especially those who have no one to pray for them.
     
  6. Rain

    Rain Powers

    Padraig, I have to disagree with you on a point. I see items that don't seem to mesh with Catholicism.

    The November 10, 2010 message, for instance:

    The stuff in red text is a big red flag to me.

    What about Catholic prophecy concerning the Angelic Shepherd? The Great Monarch? I think most agree Angelic Shepherd and Great Monarch aren't in power yet. The world slips ever-closer to the last day, sure, but we haven't been through the three days of darkness, the rise of the anti-christ, uber-persecution of the Church and the Tribulation yet. Given Pope Benedict's age, him being the last pope doesn't mesh well.

    While there's a lot of truth in the messages, certain areas give me reason to doubt they're truly from Jesus and Mary. Maybe I'll point them out later, but for now I'll mention one thing in general. The messages seem to imply that anyone who doubts their authenticity, doubts Christ Himself. Maybe Maria might find comfort in believing I'm a lost soul and she's a persecuted sacred follower. She may well be right, but if the Warning doesn't occur within the next couple of months as Maria assured earlier (Iet's say August), I hope she will re-evauluate the origins of these messages. If it does occur, I'll do the same.
     
  7. padraig

    padraig Powers

    If you like let me know and I will hve a look, Deanna.
     
  8. Rain

    Rain Powers

    Oops, I was editing and didn't realize you had already replied, Padraig. It's 4 am here. I have insomnia tonight because my knee is really bugging me. Anyway, I'll revisit this thread later.
     
  9. padraig

    padraig Powers

    ............and I must go away and think and pray about your first post, with the quotes , I went and missed it. :D
     
  10. Aviso

    Aviso Guest

    To all of you, I find out after some search in France, please take care about these messages from Maria, there are not link with the Garabandal Warning at all, are surely false and not from our Lord, now each one is of course free to believe or not.

    http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/donate/

    Aviso
     
  11. Lee

    Lee Principalities

    Honestly, I'm not sure one way or the other about them but I do know that things that unsettle me, add confusion or create chaos I need to just stay away from. So that's what I've decided to do.

    In due time we will all know what we need to know anyway and this chasing after a sign takes me off track (moves me away from prayer in distraction) and ushers in fatigue. No thank you, for me that's not a healthy recipe. If I'm missing a message from God, then that's what's happening. I'll stay in prayer and fast, I like the simplicity of it and it brings me peace.
     
  12. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Matthew 11:28 "Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest. 29 "Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and YOU WILL FIND REST FOR YOUR SOULS. 30 "For My yoke is easy and My burden is light."
     
  13. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Hi Deanna, the message you quote from,

    All paths lead to God, the creator of mankind. The followers of God interpret the teachings in different ways that lead to confusion. Once confusion sets in you can be sure that the only way is to simplify your beliefs. Simply believe in and honour your creator."

    Makes me very, very uncomfortable as it appears to me to point towards sycreticim, the notion that all beliefs are somehow equal and at the end of the day the same. To be honest I am still very uncomfortable with Pope John Paul 2 kissing the Koran, but since he was a great saint and a great mind I feel like an ant up before and elephant..so..but still its not something I would ever be happy doing for what its worth.
    Couldn't we just say then that drawing on this that the messages are all false?

    Well a few months ago I came across a purported message from Our Lady and got annoyed and het up about it and thught it was clearly a false vision. But when I checked it was a message from the original messages at Fatima ...which give me a bit of a shock and was a good lesson in
    humility for me, as the actions of a very great Pope like Jp2 are.

    I am not a theologian but anyway even great theologians differ about such matters. For instance for centuries saints and theologians differed on the Doctrine of the Immacualte Conception.

    So unless something is clearly out of kilt I am reluctant to give a clear 'no' and wait for the jugement of the Church, which I understand is coming.

    I always thought the words of Rabbi Gamaliel in 'Acts' was good,

    Acts 5 >>
    New American Standard Bible
    34But a Pharisee named Gamaliel, a teacher of the Law, respected by all the people, stood up in the Council and gave orders to put the men outside for a short time. 35And he said to them, “Men of Israel, take care what you propose to do with these men. 36“For some time ago Theudas rose up, claiming to be somebody, and a group of about four hundred men joined up with him. But he was killed, and all who followed him were dispersed and came to nothing. 37“After this man, Judas of Galilee rose up in the days of the census and drew away some people after him; he too perished, and all those who followed him were scattered. 38“So in the present case, I say to you, stay away from these men and let them alone, for if this plan or action is of men, it will be overthrown; 39but if it is of God, you will not be able to overthrow them; or else you may even be found fighting against God.”

    40They took his advice; and after calling the apostles in, they flogged them and ordered them not to speak in the name of Jesus, and then released them. 41So they went on their way from the presence of the Council, rejoicing that they had been considered worthy to suffer shame for His name. 42And every day, in the temple and from house to house, they kept right on teaching and preaching Jesus as the Christ.


    But I would treat these messages with some reserve....as I would those of Pedro Regis which they resemble so much.
     
  14. maryrose

    maryrose Powers

    I am taking the message of praying Divine Mercy for all sinners and for the grace to accept the warning on board. 4 of us met last evening and spent 2 hours praying for this intention. Either way this is a good thing to do and Jesus and Mary will accept our prayers as a sincere desire to pray for those who are not as fortunate as us who have been given many many graces.

    Mary
     
  15. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I have been praying and fasting a lot more the last while Mary.

    When Isaw the ash clouds of the Chilean earthquake at the weekend I could certainly see demonic faces there.

    Last night as I was walking the dog I nwondered how I would feel if I got home and discovered on the web that the first secrets of Medugorje were to be revealed... for it will happen in the not too far off. Well besides falling on my behind back in shock :lol: :lol:

    I thought of the Joyful mystery the Presentation and the feelings of Anna and Zechariah as they held the Christ Child in their arms. So a certain amount of fearful reverence, butterflies in the stomache, maybe fear..though love casts out fear....but above all joy.

    Slo anticipation and a hunger for vindication of the holiness of God; as the great Old Testament prayer against Satan and evil came to mind:

    Psalm 68:1
    Let God arise, let His enemies be scattered, And let those who hate Him flee before Him.


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    THe night before last I went in a dream to a most beautiful Church, I do not know were. There was a lot of deep black marble and a statue of Our Lady done up in the Latin way like a beautiful great doll with jewels and a rich off red gown. As I looked at it the roof of the Church opened and I saw Our Lady descening from heaven with the child Jesus in her arms. THere many signs in the sky of stars moving and falling and I went into a prayerful ecstasy. I think our dreams can be pressages of what is actually happening in the heavens.

    It reminded me of the fact that all over the world people just like us are waiting in joyful anticipation ,just like Anna and Zechariah for Gods coming and vindication.

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    Canticle of Zechariah

    Blessed be the Lord,
    The God of Israel;
    He has come to His people and set them free.

    He has raised up for us a mighty Saviour,
    Born of the house of His servant David.

    Through His holy prophets He promised of old
    That He would save us from our enemies,
    From the hands of all who hate us.

    He promised to show mercy to our fathers
    And to remember His holy Covenant.

    This was the oath He swore to our father Abraham:
    To set us free from the hands of our enemies,
    Free to worship Him without fear,
    Holy and righteous in His sight
    All the days of our life.

    You, My child shall be called
    The prophet of the Most High,
    For you will go before the Lord to prepare His way,
    To give his people knowledge of salvation
    By the forgiveness of their sins.

    In the tender compassion of our Lord
    The dawn from on high shall break upon us,
    to shine on those who dwell in darkness
    And the shadow of death,
    And to guide our feet into the way of peace.


    Glory to the Father,
    and to the Son,
    and to the Holy Spirit.
    As it was in the beginning.
    is now, and will be forever.

    Amen.
     
  16. Genuflect

    Genuflect New Member

    Monday 6th June 2011 10.30 hours

    My dearly beloved daughter be strong now. The content of My messages to you are causing you fear which you must not succumb to. Sometimes you feel so alone in this work yet I stand with you every day and am not far from your side. My messages, as I have told you before, will not always bring joy to souls. Believers, however, will understand that chastisement is necessary to help purify the world.
    It is difficult I know to digest the content sometimes but you must place all your trust in Me. I am instructing you, once again, not to engage with those people, believers of mine, who challenge, analyze or pick holes in My Holy Word. For neither you nor those souls has the authority to do so. You must obey Me now. Let those who continue to pour scorn and denounce My word be for this is no longer your concern. Yes, of course, you will be criticised when you proclaim My Word. Ignore those now who try to engage with you. Time is too short to waste with such diversions. The people you need to concern yourself with now are My poor children who lack faith or who do not know Me or My Eternal Father. They are the ones of great concern to Me.
    So while those well meaning Christians who will always try to discern My word devote their time to analysis instead of simply following My teachings and praying for their poor brothers and sisters, valuable time is being wasted.
    My daughter tell the world that the ecological disasters foretold will now strike the earth. All will commence now. So many. So quickly. And all due to the blind eyes turned on the word of God the Father by sinners wrapped up in their dens of iniquity.
    Believers do not be fearful
    Believers pray now. Do not be fearful. I will offer you My Divine protection at all times even when you are ridiculed in My name. Prayer will give you strength and courage as the Evil One and his minions now pour out their venom on My children. As their heinous acts of warfare on humanity begins to escalate through terrorism, monopoly of world currencies and the poisoning of the earth through deliberate contamination hear Me now. The wrath of God the Father will now fall and quickly. Prayer must be conducted in groups all over the world because it will help avert some of these events.
    Pray for My beloved Pope Benedict. He is surrounded by very powerful enemies of God. Gluttons for power and control of My Church. Prayer can help delay his imminent departure when he will be forced to leave The Vatican as foretold. Pray, pray, pray for this period in time for it will be the darkest ever to befall my sacred servants, Bishops, Cardinals and all true followers of Mine. The keys of Rome will now be handed back to God, the Almighty Father.
    The time has come for the battle against Satan and his evil followers. Their attempts to sabotage mankind will be dealt with most severely for they will endure great suffering for their evil acts.
    Rise now, My children. Place all your trust, confidence and devotion to Me as a priority. Daily prayer, Mass and The Eucharist will help Me, and My Father, stamp out this evil. Follow Me. Take up My cup. For when you do this you will enjoy eternal life.

    Your Loving Saviour
    King of Mankind
     
  17. padraig

    padraig Powers

    It's just a thought but if you take, 'Maria's' massages very seriosly it may produce a certain....well over seriousness,a certain even over zeal in thinking about and promoting them ,maybe even hysteria in the worst cases. I would suggest stepping back a little from them and praying for balance an peace. For they promise a series of very,very critical events in the very immediate future.

    Again I am not saying the messages are false just to be treated with reserve. Thefertile ground of prayer is inner peace and anything that shatters or upsets that peace is to be avoied. Just a suggestion. But these immediate prophecies might cause a certain lack of inner balance and over enthusiasm which if dissappointed might lead to a spiritual blight. Again if you go down this road it can carry you on like a bycylce downhill faster and faster like a little whirlpool.

    Perhaps I am wrong, its only a suggestion but we have the example of the recent 'Prophet' from New York who said the world was to end and it didn't and the harm it did his disciples and followers and Christian prophecy in general.

    A certain reserve.

    A certain prudence.

    The exercise of prayerful discernment.

    The prayerful preservation of inner peace and balance.


    “Let nothing disturb thee, nothing affright thee; all things are passing; God never changeth.”


    St. Teresa of Avila


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  18. MomsCalling

    MomsCalling Principalities

    Very good advice Padraig. Moderate on.
     
  19. Genuflect

    Genuflect New Member

    Thanks Padraig, the voice of reason. The messages have a heavy hearted finality that time will tell in the VERY near future. I wanted to post a message in it’s entirety so the forum would have the opportunity to encompass the whole message not just fragments. Notice the time and date this message was given not long after Maria was posting on this forum. The call to prayer for the "poor children who lack faith or who do not know Me” should always be a consideration in our devotional sessions. I feel for Maria, I always wonder what it be like if the King of Men were to communicate thru one of us and what the message would be in this critical time in human existence.

    I hope Maria will continue to post here and that we will treat her as a child of the most beloved.
     
  20. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I woul have a real problem, Genuflect with the import of this message from, 'Jesus'.

    Scripture of course teaches us that we should, 'Discern the Spirits' , solemnly warning us that, 'Not all Spirits come from God'.



    1 John 4

    1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

    4 You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world. 5 They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them. 6 We are from God, and whoever knows God listens to us; but whoever is not from God does not listen to us. This is how we recognize the Spirit[a] of truth and the spirit of falsehood.


    This is the clearest scriptural injunction. The Word of God.

    The Church herself underpins this by iniating a lengthy and ardous discernment procedure in cases which are deemd worthy of the effort.

    Now, 'The Jesus' of the message is scathing in his criticism of those who, 'Pick holes'. But it is worrying to me that he does not speak of a worthy Discernment Process, his condemnation appears global and makes no allowance for legitamte personal and Ecclesial Discernment..for apparently the times are so urgent and there is so little time.

    But 'Jesus' would never undermine the Word of God or the rulings of the Church.Both call for Discernment and highly stress the need.

    If indeed the times are urgent and time is short, well then the need for Dscernment iseven more urgent and necessary not less.

    As I say a problem , worrying.
     
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