The Vatican Has Fallen

Discussion in 'Church Critique' started by padraig, Dec 31, 2016.

  1. Whoever would practice this devotion in his honour would have, when approaching the Holy Table, an escort of nine angels chosen from each of the nine Choirs. In addition, for the daily recital of these nine salutations, he promised his continual assistance and that all the holy angels during life, and after death deliverance from Purgatory for themselves and all their relations.”
    (Promises of St. Michael to Antonia d’Astonac; see also)
     
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  2. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    I'd take any length of Purgatory if I could get all my loved ones into it. I know I might live to regret it, Purgatory being what it undeniably is, but I think, and hope, not.

    I can say these things here. But, tragically, I have to be so circumspect in what I say to my loved ones. And it's not the anonymity. If we all could meet together in some wonderful inn, I don't think I'd have a problem disclosing these matters face-to-face. This is a gracious forum.
     
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  3. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/p...rejecting-maximalism-in-devotion-to-our-lady/

    How can there be 'maximalism' in the devotion of Catholics to the Mother of God? How can anyone steeped in Original Sin regard the Immaculate Conception enough? What is really their problem?

    If Christ's Mother can somehow receive too much devotion, it seems logical to suspect that Christ Himself might also be over-worshipped. After all, what is given to Christ and His Mother might take from the devotion due to man?

    Then again, perhaps the devil is being treated in a minimalist way?

    Is it all about sodomy with these people? Is it really that satisfying?

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but Our Lady is officially considered the 'Immaculate Conception', is the only human being apart from Christ Assumed bodily into Heaven and is considered the Queen of Heaven, alongside the Father? Maximalism? I call bullshite.

    [Even Pope Francis seemed to have more regard for Our Lady. He asked us all to pray Three Hail Mary's for him].
     
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  4. padraig

    padraig Powers

    None of this was ever the Mind of the Church for 2000 years as regards the Mother of God.

    None of it.##

    This is something totally new and totally evil.##

    May God forgive them.

     
  5. AED

    AED Powers

    I agree! I am the same with my loved ones. Very circumspect. I have to be. Sigh..
    But how lovely if we could meet in some wonderful inn. What a gift that would be.
     
  6. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    I've read that one, or perhaps more, of the Fathers said that Our Lady had to be downplayed at the beginning of The Church simply because Her status would have led to Her being idolised as a Goddess in a pagan Roman Empire so susceptible to this. Her position in the Grand Scheme of Things (the very top, to the absolute discomfiture of satan) was not yet ready to be proclaimed. Now, She is almost as essential for Salvation as Her Son, but has never been as blasphemed, insulted and downgraded, yet this is the moment that the manhood-insulting porn-writer in the Holy Office, now backed by our Pope, decides on 'maximalism'.

    St. Pope John Paul II, pray for us.
     
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  7. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Sounds like Heaven...
     
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  8. Pax Prima

    Pax Prima Powers

    This whole thing is absurd. How many exorcists tell us they invoke our Lady. The reason they are minimizing her is because they are bringing evil.
     
  9. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    You are not alone brother. I think most of us have that issue of communication.

    It certainly feels that the spiritual path we are on & our understanding of the faith if we try to explain it to our loved ones is like a strange foreign language to them.

    That is why I poured my heart into my week book on the rosary and our Lady as I am hoping when I am gone that my three sons will read it and get a grasp of what makes me tick. It is my spiritual Testament guided by the hand of our Lady.

    This forum is great for us like minded souls to share our inner thoughts without fear of ridicule.
     
  10. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Jesus is a maximalist.
     
  11. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    God is Maximalism, by definition.
     
  12. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Perfectly described.

    Here, I can be my absolute self. Which I define as what I will myself to be, even if I rarely live up to it.
     
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  13. Denise P

    Denise P Archangels

    Fr. Chad Ripperger says that when the Blessed Mother shows up at an exorcism it’s all over!
     
  14. Mario

    Mario Powers

    I believe ecumenism is so near the top of the list, that both Mary, our Co-Redemptrix, and the TLM (think Society of Pius X) have to actually be minimized.:rolleyes::cry:
     
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  15. padraig

    padraig Powers

    There might be a good thing in all this in that they may have gone more than one step to far in attacking Our Lady like this. One thing I notice here in Spain is how very,very much they love Our Lady , the same in Italy. If I had to guess it was this love of Mary that saved them from heresy during the Protestant Rebellion. No one likes folks attacking or insulting their mother. It is crossing a big red line. A step too far.

    So maybe it will wake people up? Open their eyes?

    Here is hoping.
     
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  16. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Ecumenism might just be the excuse. Many of the people who control the Church currently seem more interested in being open to various forms of sexual perversion, which all have one thing in common-a hatred of womanhood, of which Our Holy Mother is the perfect example.

    Lesbians hate and reject true womanhood.

    Homosexual men reject true womanhood.

    Despite their claims, transexual men who identify as 'women' despise and reject true womanhood, their whole identity being both a rejection of manhood and a perverse mockery of womanhood. They actually hate the idea of woman that they claim to aspire to.

    Transexual women, who identify as 'men' reject true womanhood.

    These are the people who want to reject Our Lady. I doubt if good Protestants would want to have anything to do with them. Maybe the satanists...
     
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  17. maryrose

    maryrose Powers

    If the sacrifice of the Holy Mass is made null and void the earth is doomed. We already witness the increase in suffering. God will move soon. We would be annihilated only Our Lady is pleading for us. She is our meaditrix before God and all who turn to her will be helped and saved.
    O Mary conceived without sin pray for us who have recourse to thee.
     
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  18. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Well even if the Vatican nixed the Mass I am sure many good priests, Bishops and Cardinals in the One True Catholic and Apostolic Church would continue the Eternal Sacrifice. I have the sad feeling at this point it would be only a tiny minority, the Faithful Remnant and these few would experience fierce persecution, but even so.
     
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  19. AED

    AED Powers

    Yes. We would go underground so to speak. Like the persecuted Church under communism.
     
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  20. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Your points are well taken.:notworthy:
     
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