The Vatican Has Fallen

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  1. Carol55

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    I keep thinking about this discussion and I think that you may be correct. If that is the case then what would Pope Benedict’s complete plan be? Might he planning to admit this and therefore he would be a target of the other side?
    It’s horrible to think about but maybe that’s the third secret, the part that Malachi Martin could never verbalize? A hit job on a pope by members of his own church? Conchita’s A -word for the Warning may be assassination. Honestly, I don’t know what could be worse and I apologize for expressing this but it is haunting me terribly.
     
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    A terrifying thought Carol. :eek: Hopefully this will never happen, but I do believe something sinister occurred to cause Benedict's resignation. :(
     
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    It is terrifying Jo M and I pray that I’m wrong.
     
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    It’s wise not to overthink. I think:)

    How can we know another person's motives? How can we know their intentions?
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    We can see their actions but that is a humanly limited view.
     
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    True.
     
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    I don’t claim to know his motives but I choose to believe he is not a crypto modernist trying to split the papacy in half. This really does seem to fit Anne Catherine’s prophecy on two popes at the end times. For some reason he doesn’t stop dressing like a pope and leave the Vatican. Maybe if he did “terrible things would happen.” It would be easy as arranging a live broadcast interview with direct, unevasible questions to keep the faithful from guessing what is going on in Rome, but it never happens.

    The Synodal church does not seem Catholic.
     
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    There is no separate entity called the Synodal Church. I think the synods are wrong, but they are taking place within the Catholic Church. Padraig posted an entry from Scripture about the weeds growing in with the wheat. Much is being made about two churches but right now, I believe in One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church.
    Now, there are certainly evils within the Church. No question about that.
    Blessed Mother did not mention the Synodal Church to my knowledge, ever. She did repeatedly tell us to pray for the Church.
     
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    If the pope can retire like the pope is a CEO, if bishops in every nation vote on their own doctrines, and if that church is no longer bothered about saving souls but welcoming everybody, feeding the poor and environmentalism…?

    I saw that many pastors allowed themselves to be taken up with ideas that were dangerous to the Church. They were building a great, strange, and extravagant Church. Everyone was to be admitted in it in order to be united and have equal rights: Evangelicals, Catholics, sects of every description….”

    It’s not yet done but we are transitioning to it.
     
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    It seems the Church is no longer about saving souls, but 'living in successful relationships'. Success in damnation, is all. Their concept of Heaven has reduced to this. If paradise is merely sexual satisfaction for all, in all circumstances, they can't possibly believe in true Heaven and the price it commands for entry. Which leaves open the question of why these infiltrating, atheistic perverts 'care' so much about The Catholic Church. Now, we really know what the enthusiasm for increased lay participation is about. As it has turned out, it is a highly selective one. Sadly, it was only a minority of German bishops that closed the door to this abomination. So much for synodality if they're going to Rome. They lost and now won't accept it. The ball is now in the Vatican's Court.
     
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    According to that report by AC Wimmer, quoted by Luan, they're abandoning the synod, now that it has failed them.
     
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    Your question is answered over in the thread below: its a bit of a little long-read. But well worth taking the time to go through it

    The final confrontation: Examining the end times through the lens of Fatima and Benedict XVI





     
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    That article is one man’s opinion and nothing more than that. I am highly suspicious of any article that purports to be from “a scholar” and in another instance, the same article from “A Marian Soul.” Discern!
     
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    She did not say synodal Church, but that the warning would take place after an evil synod. John Paul 2 said that the Church will face the antichurch.

    Clearly there are clerics who want to disconnect the modern church institute from the traditional church of the first twenty centuries.
     
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    But there are not two different churches, or Our Lady would have told us.
     
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    Thomas21, An “important synod”. It is difficult to say that this synod that Conchita learned of has to be complete before the Warning imho.
     
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    Is this a link? If so I am unable to open it.
     
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    It’s on another thread on this forum
     
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    HeavenlyHosts, I agree. I think that some people are getting the time that we are currently in confused with the time of the final Antichrist. After the fullness of the Jews and the Gentiles, it seems likely that the Church will become an anti church or ape of the Church because I believe that many people in the Church will accept the Antichrist and he will become the head of the Church. The few that oppose him will either have to flee or they will be martyred but this is not where we are now. This is sort of like a schism. This is, of course, my opinion. I think that we should all agree that it is not time to flee or go underground or such. If I’m wrong we’ll know it soon enough.
    I think that we should continue to pray and rely on what the very holy clergy are telling us like Bishop Schneider and Cardinal Burke.+

    Peace.
     
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    I agree. Pray, cling to the Traditional Magisterium, follow the holy prelates and clergy within the Barque.
     
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