I think this is just "filler" for the Catholic Talk Show from Church Pop, part of the EWTN family but some might find it interesting, if a new Pope was chosen in 2022, who might it be?? I was in a similar conversation at Church one day, I told them, I figure Francis will be around for at least 3 more years: A New Pope in 2022? The Cardinals Most Likely to Be Elected After Pope Francis - (churchpop.com) These guys are good enough, what can I say. I think the show runs a bit longish but there we have it. And right off the bat, they talk about a possible Pope from Africa which I tend to think the Church should do if for no other reason, that is where the Church is expanding and very sadly, is suffering over in parts at least. (5 minutes in)... but I'm for whomever it best ultimately, Asia, Europe, Americas, wherever the most competent candidate would be and I'd like him to be conservative of course. What I like about this show is that from what I've seen, they are serious meaning not really anything per horsing around and things like that.
I think the 76 year old Archbishop of Madrid Carlos Osoro Sierra is also a strong candidate if there is a conclave this year
I only watched the first few minutes of that video. What put me off was the way they dismissed the near extinction of the Faith in developed countries, especially in their own country. I'm tired of all these people glossing over the effects we see of watering down the Faith since Vatican 11 as they cling to some notion that what happened in developed nations won't have the same effect on emerging nations in the coming years. The people who wax lyrical about the Philippines now were probably spinning the same stuff about Ireland before the Gay Marriage and Abortion referenda in Ireland. I don't believe for a minute that the Faith in the Philippines is as strong as they claim. Cultural Catholicism tends to cover the cracks until the true decline in faith can no longer be ignored. That's what happened in Ireland and other European Catholic countries, and it will happen in the Phillippines and Africa too unless the influencers in the Church face up to reality. They need to acknowledge that following the spirit of the age has taken us in the wrong direction and passing it off as the Holy Spirit only makes matters worse. If we can't get the basics right, we're kidding ourselves thinking we can get anything else right. In other words, we minimise the First Commandment at our peril. There is zero chance of the pachamama hierarchy giving prominence to the First Commandment, so we can expect to see decades of erosion of real supernatural faith across the world with possible increases in developing countries until it peaks there before following the same downhill trajectory as Europe and America. I think it makes little difference who is elected Pope when the Bishops display so little faith. Cardinal Sarah might have some effect on safeguarding the deposit of the Faith but revelations about the St. Gallen Mafia have shown us how even a small group of bad Bishops can harm the Church. The very fact that they turn to non-Catholics for something as important as a Synod tells us that they don't believe that conversion is the Holy Spirit at work in human hearts. And recent post-Synod documents have shown us that the Synodal process itself is a theatrical sham to paste over a pre-determined outcome which has everything to do with secular ideology and nothing to do with the Great Commission. I wish that our Bishops would reflect on the fact that they are successors of the Apostles answerable to God and not corporate executives answerable to elitist shareholders. But they won't. That would take supernatural faith and fear of the Lord. I apologise for the long post. I'll probably regret it tomorrow but I needed to get that off my chest. Anyway, no matter who is Pope, we must keep our eyes on Christ and tend to our own souls. No use seeing what's wrong with the Bishops if we don't fix what's wrong in ourselves. We get the shepherds we deserve.
I didn't watch the video because the audio was in English but I considered it to be talking about the possibility of Francis dying due to the rumors about his health that have emerged since the surgery last year.
I'm too impatient to watch videos and prefer to read, so I just added two and two and got five. I wouldn't be surprised to see Pope Francis last another few years, so I thought this implied he might resign.
That's a great post, with nothing in it to regret. I would be a little more optimistic because of the lesser encounter with material prosperity and 'education' in the developing world.
It's probably the most undeveloped reason for Faith, but "the Fear of The Lord is the beginning of Wisdom". I certainly haven't developed much beyond this level, but I can vouch it's quite adequate to keep one on-side. The most dangerous people are those who fear neither God nor man.
Germany’s Synodal Assembly calls for change on deacons, bishops’ selection Bendictine Sister Philippa Rath and theologian Agnes Wuckelt, deputy federal president of the Catholic Women's Association of Germany, talk during a break at the third Synodal Assembly in Frankfurt Feb. 4, 2021. (CNS photo/Julia Steinbrecht, KNA) By: Catholic News Service Date: February 7, 2022 FRANKFURT, Germany (CNS) — The Synodal Path of the Catholic Church in Germany wants laypeople to be able to participate in choosing bishops and wants the church to have women deacons. The third Synodal Assembly to bring about reforms to the Catholic Church ended Feb. 5 with the first concrete decisions of the process. Most German bishops signaled they are prepared to support far-reaching change in the Catholic Church. For three days, nearly 230 delegates — lay and clerical — discussed reforms based on texts that had been drawn up in four working forums and reflecting theological arguments they hope to present to Rome in 2023, at the end of the Synodal Path process. This third of five planned synodal assemblies marked the first time that the highest body of the Synodal Path adopted some fundamental texts in a second reading. The texts received approval of more than two-thirds of all delegates, in addition to the approval of more than two-thirds of the bishops. But two years after the Synodal Path process started, the Vatican has yet to give a clear signal of support. Limburg Bishop Georg Bätzing, president of the German bishops’ conference, announced that he met with Pope Francis in January and that he is in dialogue with Cardinal Mario Grech, secretary-general of the Synod of Bishops. Bishop Bätzing said a discussion group between the synod secretariat and the executive committee of the Synodal Path in Germany will be established. The pope’s representative to Germany, Archbishop Nikola Eterovic, greeted the assembly and reminded delegates Pope Francis “is the point of reference and the center of unity for more than 1.3 billion Catholics worldwide, 22.6 million of whom live in Germany.” He said the pope often speaks of synodality, but warns against “parliamentarism, formalism, intellectualism and clericalism.” At the news conference after the assembly, when asked what support there is from Rome, Bishop Bätzing said, “Rome is not the world church.” Bishop Bätzing made clear that he sees reforms being discussed in 2023 at Synod of Bishops on synodality, the consultation process for which has already begun. Pope Francis has encouraged synodality, a process of discernment he describes as listening to the Holy Spirit through the word of God, prayer and adoration after listening to one another. The German Catholic news agency KNA reported the condition of an episcopal two-thirds majority was included in the statutes of the Synodal Path at the insistence of the Vatican, to prevent things being decided there that could mean a break with church doctrine. As few as 23 episcopal “no” votes would be enough to prevent audacious demands, KNA reported. But conversely, the explicit approval of more than two-thirds of the bishops means a kind of stamp of approval that other magisterial bodies, including those in Rome, cannot simply overlook. Among the demands made at the three-day meeting were a new moral teaching on sex, including a reassessment of homosexuality; the opening of the priesthood to women; a relaxation of the obligation of celibacy for priests; and a change in the approach to power. The resolutions passed by the Synodal Assembly have varying prospects of taking effect, since many of the desired changes affect practices that are subject to universal church rules and cannot simply be handled differently in Germany. The text, “Women in sacramental ministry,” says: “In the Roman Catholic Church, a process will be initiated in a transparent manner, with a commission taking the lead, which will continue the Synodal Path in Germany in a sustainable manner. A commission will be established to deal exclusively with the issue of the sacramental ministry of people of all genders. Scientific excellence and spiritual concerns in the sense of the proclamation of the Christian Gospel are to be combined with each other.” That text will be returned to the forum on women before being presented to a future assembly for final adoption. In 2016, Pope Francis reiterated St. John Paul II’s 1994 ruling that women cannot be priests. However, Pope Francis has set up a Vatican commission to study the role of women deacons in early Christianity. As far as election of a diocesan bishop, the assembly called for a lay decision-making body that, with the cathedral chapter in a diocese, will put forward the list of potential bishop candidates to the Vatican. The first reading of texts included discussing the rights of LBGTQ Catholics, especially in light of church labor laws. The latter can be changed to bring them in line with German anti-discriminatory labor laws and does not need approval from the Vatican. Nearly 90% of delegates approved the text on “magisterial reassessment of homosexuality.” Gregor Podschun, chairman of the Federation of German Catholic Youth, the umbrella organization of 17 Catholic youth associations, told the assembly: “The church has caused great suffering to queer people. Now we are at a point of change, and we can change that. The church can again get close to people.” At a news conference after the assembly, Irme Stetter-Karp, president of the Central Committee of German Catholics and the lay co-president of the Synodal Path, spoke of women’s rights in the church: “I have experienced years in which women have made church possible locally in the community but have not been valued by our church. I am no longer willing to tolerate that — the debate about access to all offices and ministries therefore touches me personally very much.” “Human rights in the church will only be a reality when there is justice for all genders, blessings for all, participation of all in decisions that concern all,” she said. She added that the Synodal Path has put changes on the agenda that have been overdue for decades. KNA reported that Bishop Peter Kohlgraf of Mainz said he saw high expectations that something had to happen quickly, adding: “I would be a little more cautious about that, because the involvement of the universal church is always important. A lot is already gained if the door is opened to a conversation with the universal church. “It is perhaps a little too optimistic to expect the outcome to be the big breakthrough for the currently quite disastrous state of the church, but they are initial steps,” he added. – – – Contributing to this story were Anli Serfontein in Berlin and reporters for KNA in Frankfurt.
Why does Germany so often attempt to rule the world? Why does the German people (it includes vaccine-mandating Austria) produce so many destructive ideologues-one just has to think of Luther, Hitler and Karl Marx? What is it about the German psyche that causes it to think it can speak for, and impose its will upon, everyone else? The destruction of Roman Civilisation originated from North of the Danube; now we see it, from the time of the rise of Prussia laying siege to what remains of Christendom. Pride seems to be a very strong tree in Germanic territory. It is worrying that Gotterdammarung is their primary, primordial myth. They seem to revel in destruction and self-destruction. It's a hard thing to say, but I find myself asking the question, much as I admire his broad orthodoxy, whether or not we are now paying the price for what was a very radical decision (as contrasted with the humility of his predecessor dying wretchedly in office) by our German pope.
I think the Pope Emeritus' mistake was to trust that Angelo Scola would be elected after his resignation, as he would carry on his legacy, but I feel that this apostasy would occur even if Benedict XVI died in office.
Yes, of course, but the apostasy would not have been gifted an official face. The Pope Emeritus could hardly have been unaware of the St Gallen Mafia and their intentions, not to mention that the runner-up in the 2005 enclave was 'reportedly' Cardinal Bergoglio.
Thanks. I've come to the conclusion that criticism serves no useful purpose now because nothing we say will make a difference. It's just that I see red when Catholics treat apostasy in their own countries as nothing to bother about. I'm sure they mean well, but the message I get from them is that the loss of millions of souls in developed countries is nothing to cry about with the growth in emerging countries being a consolation prize. Salvation is not a numbers game.
Are Pope Francis’ changes to canon law true decentralization? https://www.catholicworldreport.com...s-changes-to-canon-law-true-decentralization/
