The Vatican Has Fallen

Discussion in 'Church Critique' started by padraig, Dec 31, 2016.

  1. Byron

    Byron Powers

    According to Mari Loli the Warning will come in an even year. 2024?
     
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  2. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    I will be 82 if I am still alive in 2030. Conchita and I are the same age or nearly the same.
     
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  3. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    2022?
     
  4. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Maybe Conchita's life will conclude like that of Moses? Moses didn't live to see the Promised Land, as he was called to a Land of far greater Promise.
     
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  5. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    The end of the synod is 2023 (and the warning comes after a synod) so more likely 2024 but then it could be 2026 or 2028.

    But within this decade I would assume.
     
  6. Michael Pio

    Michael Pio Archangels

    Seriously? With respect, with kindness - I must say I have been expecting this, although as I am reading it now, I nevertheless cannot quite grasp it. The death of Joey L., who was before he died always supposed to have his eyesight restored, didn't deter devotees from believing in Garabandal.
    Now, the same thing apparently may happen even if Conchita passes. It's unbelievable to me, people changing the narrative so it fits their preconceived make-believe system.

    I would suggest to face reality and to live in the here and now, not to wait for a future 'warning'. Garabandal may be a false apparition. It seems to almost become a religion of its own, the believe in 'the warning' and 'illumination of conscience'. This apparition is not approved by the Church and the believe system that comes with it is not in line with the Catholic Church's magisterium.

    You can spend a lifetime waiting for this 'warning' that may never come. Instead, what is going on in the world right now, right now - this is key. Please wake up people, there may be no more warnings after Sasagawa's warning of October 2019. We are already in the tribulation, it is very obvious.

    What are we to do? Warning of 2019: "Put on ashes and pray a penitential Rosary daily."
     
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  7. Mario

    Mario Powers

    No, the second Thursday in April is Holy Thursday which nixes the possibility of the Miracle. The next reasonable possibility is April, 2024 for the Miracle with the Warning coming sometime before.

    Come Lord Jesus.
     
  8. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Thank you
     
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  9. Michael Pio

    Michael Pio Archangels

    I am afraid we don't have until 2024, the way things are going and speeding up. Action is required now - in particular the daily Rosary.
     
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  10. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Michael,

    My spiritual life is not dependent on, nor grounded in, apparitions. Holy Mass, daily prayer, confession, faithful friends, the saints (I can do better with weekly fasting); these are my bread and butter. But I do have great respect for the fruit of Garabandal, as well as the fruit of Medjugorje. But Fatima will always be on top.

    As you stress, the timing of Sister's message of fasting and prayer, right before the pachamama debacle, also carries great weight. One can include these elements if they bring us to the foot of the Cross.

    Once one gets caught up in
    , and is consumed by dates, there is an imbalance. That we agree on. :) It is the convergence of signs at this time that keeps our eyes on the horizon. For as Peter tells us: prophecy has its place until...the day dawns and the morning star rises in our hearts. Let prophecy be an expression of our desire, not to escape tribulation, but to one day soon, rejoice in the presence of the Living God!

    May your Triumph come soon, Dear Lady!
     
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  11. Mario

    Mario Powers

    When I pray the Rosary with my beloved Geralyn this evening, I'll think of you!(y)
     
  12. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    I hope it comes this soon! Please Jesus!
     
  13. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    Beautiful Terry..l
     
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  14. Beth B

    Beth B Beth Marie

    This reads like a horror show….I guess this church travesty is part of the bigger picture before the warning….
    God will correct this folks…in His time(y)
     
  15. PurpleFlower

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    I must confess I have my reservations about Garabandal. While I do believe Medjugorje is true, as I have seen and experienced tremendous fruit (so many devout young priests found their vocations there!), my faith does not hinge upon its authenticity in the slightest and I will gladly submit if it is ruled against by the Church.

    I believe Sr. Lucia when she said we are currently in the process of Mary's Triumph. It's a painful process, but with so much grace available to us! God is so generous, He will always pour out more and more of what we need to match the rising tide of evil. We are well provided for spiritually; we have our weapons (Mass, rosary, fasting, etc.), and we have an amazing opportunity of white martyrdom... Our suffering as seemingly leaderless sheep in the swirling darkness is a priceless treasure that, when offered together with Christ's suffering, will save so many souls previous saints would envy us! Today I cried pretty desperately while feeling great discouragement that the godless seem to win so many battles against my beloved family members...until I decided to go to Jesus in the Garden of Olives and unite my suffering with His. My crying suddenly changed...from a place of despair to a place of love and hope. Jesus saw all those who would reject His Love and great Sacrifice, but He still took them and all their sin onto Himself, in the hope that the few that love Him would bring as many with us as we could to receive His merits. He didn't despair and turn away from His cross, so neither will we, who love Him so much and would follow Him no matter where He goes! And where He goes ultimately ends in great joy--a joy that will be magnified with every soul we've helped save. There will be many.
     
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  16. DeGaulle

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    Michael, I might have presented my comment obtusely. I am not a devotee of Garabandal or indeed any apparition. I do have great respect for the events of Fatima, but none of these things form part of the Faith and ultimately one must fall back on actual Revelation, which we all know ended with the death of the Apostle John. In the same spirit, we cannot be certain that we are now in the Tribulation, desperate as things are. The reality is that we are undeniably living in probably the wickest of recorded times...but it could yet get a whole lot worse. Many of us hope, rightly, for a Divine Intervention in order to abate this wickedness, but only God knows what is best and it might not actually correspond with the most noble, but yet so limited, human perspectives. Personally, I'm expecting the worst, but hoping for the best, and the only things I can be sure of is that Christ and His Best will be the final outcome.
     
  17. Michael Pio

    Michael Pio Archangels

    I am sorry, as I am reading this now, my own text, I must say it is a bit over the top. My apologies, I had promised myself not to ruffle feathers and this wording is too strong.
    That said, I do strongly believe that waiting for future dates is a trick of the devil. The more things are speeding up now, the vaccination campaign, the envisaged social points system (China-like), the attack on the traditional Mass, the priesthood, etc, the more things are speeding up, the more strongly I feel that we are already in the persecution, and there is no point in waiting for a future date that gets continually postponed. I feel strongly about the message of Fatima and Akita, to pray the Rosary daily because this is our weapon.
    This is basically all I wanted to say. It wasn't my intention to stir up reactions, I should re-read my posts before sending them off and I should change my tone. I had to run off to a meeting, it would have been best not to post in a rush.
    Dear DeGaulle, I totally agree with you. Things can get a whole lot worse and I expect they will. I heard it said that in certain areas there have been deadlines for the vaccine mandates, one of them being 8 December, the birthday of Our Lady.
    I also agree that we can't know for certain that we are in the times of persecution, although we are in the worst times in human history after Christ.
    I also agree that we have come so far, only a divine intervention can save us. I am waiting for the Three Days of Darkness, although I don't have a date.
    If this is the same thing as the illumination of conscience, then what am I arguing about? Perhaps only the chasing of dates, but I think we agree on this anyway that there is no point in chasing future dates, that we must live in the now.
    In summary, my wording was over the top.
    Please forgive me.
    God bless.
     
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  18. Michael Pio

    Michael Pio Archangels

    Dear Mario,
    I couldn't agree more with all you have written and you are a much stronger warrior than I am, in particular regarding fasting, daily prayer, and Holy Mass and your admirable battle with 'the system' in terms of vaccine exemptions. Yes, may Our Lady's triumph come soon, amen!
     
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  19. Michael Pio

    Michael Pio Archangels

    Thank you, thank you, thank you, we have so much trouble in our marriage and now with my health. Very much appreciated.
    And we equally keep all forum members and their families in our Rosaries!
    God bless.
     
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  20. Michael Pio

    Michael Pio Archangels

    Beautiful, apt words. :)
     
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