The Vatican Has Fallen

Discussion in 'Church Critique' started by padraig, Dec 31, 2016.

  1. childofdivinewill

    childofdivinewill Archangels

    For those who observe fasting days, has anyone of you tried Cornell bread?
     
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  2. An Guilbneach

    An Guilbneach Mane Nobiscum Domine

    Merry Christmas. HH. Peace and Joy
     
  3. BrianK

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  4. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    As Pedro Regis' constant echo in his prophecies read: "stay with the truth Magisterium of the church". This I will do regardless of what any Pope, Cardinal, Bishop or Priest may preach otherwise. All truth is absolute and comes from God and thus can never change. Relativism is from the devil and always changes based on anyone's private feelings. Pray for those who are confused.

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    4900 - Message of Our Lady Queen of Peace, December 14, 2019

    Dear children, open your hearts and accept the Will of God for your lives. Do not stray from the path I have shown you. Now is the opportune time for your return. My Son Jesus loves you and awaits you. Be defenders of the truth. Testify everywhere that you belong to the Lord and that the things of the world are not for you. Do not allow lies to win. Seek strength in prayer, in listening to the Gospel and in the Eucharist. I am your Mother and I have come from Heaven to help you. You have freedom, but it is best to do God's Will. Do not forget: the truth is only kept intact in the Catholic Church. The enemies will say that there are other ways to seek the truth, but defend the teachings of the true Magisterium of the Church of My Jesus. Be attentive. In God there is no half-truth. This is the message I give you today in the name of the Most Holy Trinity. Thank you for having allowed Me to gather you here once more. I bless you, in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Be at peace.

    4899 - Message of Our Lady Queen of Peace, December 10, 2019
    Dear children, I am your Sorrowful Mother and I suffer for what comes to you. Wicked men will judge My Son Jesus and the faithful will be punished, for they will not find Him in many Tabernacles on Earth. You are heading for a painful future and only by the power of prayer can you bear the weight of the trials. Whatever happens, do not forget: My Jesus is present in the Eucharist in Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity. I repeat: do not forget - in everything God first. I love you and will always be with you. Love and defend the truth. There is no victory without a cross. Courage. Those who remain faithful to the end will be proclaimed Blessed of the Father. Onward in defense of the truth. This is the message I give you today in the name of the Most Holy Trinity. Thank you for having allowed Me to gather you here once more. I bless you, in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Be at peace.

    4898 - Message of Our Lady Queen of Peace, on the Feast of the Immaculate Conception, December 8, 2019
    Dear children, I am the Immaculate Conception. I have come from Heaven to make you great in faith and to offer you My Love. Be obedient to My Call. Separate yourselves from all that separates you from My Son Jesus. You are important for the Lord and He expects much from you. Do not be slaves to sin. You belong to the Lord and Him alone should you follow and serve. Return to My Son Jesus and everywhere testify to the Wonders of God in your lives. Do not depart from prayer. You are heading for a dangerous future and few will remain firm in the faith. The devil will deceive many of My poor children with the false teachings that will spread everywhere. Be attentive. Love and defend the truth. Listen to Me and I will lead you along the path of good and holiness. Remain faithful to Jesus and the teachings of the true Magisterium of His Church. Your victory is in the defense of the truth. Do not turn away from the path I have shown you. Do not allow the serpent to deceive you and lead you away from the path of salvation. Courage. My Jesus is with you. This is the message I give you today in the name of the Most Holy Trinity. Thank you for having allowed Me to gather you here once more. I bless you, in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Be at peace.

    4897 - Message of Our Lady Queen of Peace, December 7, 2019
    Dear children, I am your Mother and I have come from Heaven to call you to sincere conversion. Do not fold your arms. What you have to do, do not leave for tomorrow. I ask you to keep the flame of your faith alight. Humanity is heading for the abyss of destruction that men have prepared by their own hands. Return to Him who is your Only and True Savior. You are in the world, but not of the world. Bend your knees in prayer. You are heading for a future of grave spiritual conflicts, and only by the power of prayer can you bear the weight of the trials to come. Seek strength in the Gospel and in the Eucharist. Do not forget: in everything God first. Do not depart from the truth. Onward without fear. This is the message I give you today in the name of the Most Holy Trinity. Thank you for having allowed Me to gather you here once again. I bless you, in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Be at peace.

    4896 - Message of Our Lady Queen of Peace, December 4, 2019
    Dear children, pray much before the cross. The darkness of unbelief will be great within the Church. Many will have the courage of Judas and will contaminate My poor children. Proclaim the truth of the Gospel. Defend the teachings of the true Magisterium of the Church of My Jesus. The devil will not overcome those who love the truth. Give the best of yourselves in the mission that the Lord has entrusted to you. Do not retreat. There is no victory without a cross. Onward on the path I have shown you. This is the message I give you today in the name of the Most Holy Trinity. Thank you for having allowed Me to gather you here once more. I bless you, in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Amen. Be at peace.
     
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  5. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I do like Michael Voris and his take on things more and more. At first I was concerned that he and team were not well rooted Spriitualy and had too much of worldy/ media/ poltical take on things. But it is beomcing more and more apparnet that they are very well rooted Spritually , that they are people of prayer and are exercising a real Prophetic Voice. How the Church Authorites must hate them! But it is also evident that they appear to have no Control Handle on them wahtsoever. This muct be driving them all crazy.

    The Internet has brought us many, many bad things. But it has broght us many, many good things too. The days of burying the terrible secrets of the Church are at and end. I wish the Vatican and Catholic Bishops everywhere would cotton on to it. Even at this late stage.

    Being open, transparent and honest are not the worst thing in the world. Especially if you claim to be a follower of Christ. I am not holding my breath however. I'm not holding my breath. Telling lies and covering things up appears to have become a point of first resort. A habit of a lif etime that is impossible to abandon. Even when it doesn;t work any more.
     
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  6. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Try sending a pm to muzhik.
     
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  7. AED

    AED Powers

    Yes. I used to make it. Back in the day. One of the forum members--Muszhik I believe--fasted using Cornell bread. I do know it is high in protein.
     
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  8. Jo M

    Jo M Powers

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  9. MMM

    MMM Archangels

    I tend to agree more and more on your thoughts on Voris. It certainly is the farthest thing from a ministry and I don't check out his videos to aid in any spiritual growth but it's good that someone has a microscope on the questionable goings on at the Vatican with the cardinals and bishops. The truth holds up under any scrutiny and even welcomes it.

    What I don't think Voris realizes is once the liberals are back in power they along with the liberal cardinals and bishops could and likely will have him shut down in a matter of months. Call it hate speech, call it libel, or just sue them out of existence.
     
  10. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Iwas thinking today about three stories concerning St Padre Pio and Pope St Pius x.

    Padre Pio one time was vistied by a top Iralian Industrialist from the North who owned a car factory. He was hiving a lot of toruble with Communists in his work force, who i suppose were effectively trying to hi jack his buisness. Padre pio, in line with the then Church (witness Fulton Sheen) told him to be very hard on them. The Industarialist said to the saint,

    'You adive me to take a club to them?'

    Padre Pio replied,

    'Put nails in it!'

    St Pope Pius x when he was a young Parish Priest took part in a fight with Radically anti Catholic Freemasons at a march past near his Church.

    If euither Padre Pio or Pius X had done such things today they would have been sent to the head shrinker and shown the door by pretty well most Bishops in the West.

    Why is this? I think as St Paul says, that the Spritiual see all things spiritually. Whereas the worldly see things with the eyes of the world. As senior secualr managers see them. The way of the Modern Western World is not to see things in terms of black and white but in terms of shades of grey. Many, many shades of confused grey. That things are always about compromise. Compromise with child abusers, compromise with pro abort Politicians, compromise with perverts priests, compromise with Financial Mafias..and on and on and on...

    People like Padre Pio and Pius X were not and are not acceptable to an Institution like the Church Hirachy because they see things Spriitually, in terms of Black and white, in terms of good and evil. Most in the leadership of the Church have long , long lost touch with such a reality. Why? Well simply because they do not pray.


    The Words, 'Good' and 'Evil' simply have no meaning for them.
     
  11. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    Well, I suppose that it's their turn to get a share of Peter's Pence. Fr. Spadaro's junket to China with the rest of the Vatican's museum pieces would be small change in comparison with the cost of funding all the committees, dicastries, think-tanks and synods whose main purpose seems to be finding ways to demolish the faith while keeping the likes of Mark Mallet believing that nothing has changed.

    Was that a coca plant on the altar at the Amazon Synod's closing Mass? It's native to South America. Maybe they will start growing their own now that importing it would increase their carbon footprint. If they are as economical with that as they are with the truth, there might be something left over to feed Rome's poor more than once per year. And the budget might stretch to something more eco friendly than plastic bottles.

    God help us. I suppose that we're more to be pitied than laughed at. Maybe all these compensation claims by abuse victims are a blessing in disguise. The poor Church can't come soon enough so we can see an exodus of all these leeches.
     
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  12. padraig

    padraig Powers

    What terrible, terrible times we like in.

    What was it that Billy Graham said, 'If God does not punish this genration he owes a big apology to Sodom and Gommorrah!'

    Rome will burn.

    Mark my words on this.

    Rome will burn to the very sticks.

    Because God appears to be silent doesn't mean He isn't listening. He is.
    I think some of these Theologians seem to want to go to hell.
     
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  13. Byron

    Byron Powers

    I believe you are right, and so does the History channel. I watched a segment on the Last Pope of Malachy the other day, and found it very interesting. They did an excellent job on depicting end times prophecy, Fatima, and much more. If you get a chance I would highly recommend to watch it.
     
  14. garabandal

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  15. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    That's a wise introduction of perspective. How many past posts might I find of myself trying to justify some word or action of Pope Francis and performing some mental somersaults in the process? We all struggled here as the truth of the matter slowly dawned on us. Does anyone remember that book 'No False Prophet' by Peter Bannister and how we wanted desperately to believe it? I might reread it sometime-at this point it must present as 'comedy gold'.
     
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  16. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    No need to apologise to anyone. Your perspective is essential too. We are all on a tightrope in a hurricane and must not lean too far to either side. The discussion has been very fruitful, I think. I've learned a lot, I can say.
     
  17. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    The 'dignity' of sodomy. A generation that can dismiss so glibly the views of all that preceded it. Such Pride and self-confidence betokens a jaw-dropping level of narcissism. It is a further step in the abandonment of the concept of sin and into the embrace of Dostoevsky's 'all is permitted'. Some in our Church are turning into his Grand Inquisitor. They are telling Christ to get lost. They don't need Him now, they can do a better job. Come Lord Jesus.
     
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  18. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    As the current crisis of the church dramatically unfolds we must be reminded of the words of Pius X.

    I think he was truly a prophet and one of the greatest popes.

    The quote below imo contains in its simplicity, clarity and directness the answer to many of the issues we have been discussing here the last day or two.

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  19. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I think the saint took these things so very, very seriously because some inner Prophetic insight caused him to see the future we are now live in.

    The same for Saint Padre Pio.

    Somehow they KNEW.

     
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