The story behind how the Italian Bishops Conference changed the words to the Our Father. It all goes back to Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini. http://magister.blogautore.espresso.repubblica.it/2018/12/06/francis-absolute-monarch-behind-the-scenes-of-the-new-italian-“our-father”/
I came across the following story about James Grein and ex-Cardinal McCarrick today. My thoughts about St. Gallen and McCarrick are the following and this is conjecture on my part but is it possible that St. Gallen served as a retreat for some homosexual clergy in the Church. I mean, maybe this is why they sort of laughed about the conspiracy theories about them. Maybe they did discuss who would make a good pope and help serve their purposes the best but it was done more in jest while their main motive was to get away for a vacation with like-minded sinners, may God forgive me, and maybe McCarrick was indoctrinated into this sinner's club on his first trip to St. Gallen. This sin gets passed from one to the next and so on, and sometimes they start the indoctrination so early that the child thinks that it is normal. I do believe that in regards to James G. and McCarrick that McCarrick began indoctrinating him early but planned to wait to officially cross the line when James turned 16. This is what James appears to be stating in his interview with Dr. Taylor Marshall and this is what this article is stating also. It all makes me sick but it is difficult to steer away from this subject lately. There is enough data on McCarrick on the bishop-accountability.org site for years now that would make one's head spin, http://www.bishop-accountability.or...lr=&proxystylesheet=ba-prod&oe=&sa.x=0&sa.y=0 . This particular document from 2009 was included in the comments of another article that I came across and it is a doozey http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news2009/09_10/Newark-2009.pdf . Four months after McCarrick’s resignation, silence from the Vatican on his fate Julie Zauzmer | November 23 | https://www.washingtonpost.com/reli...ence-vatican-his-fate/?utm_term=.d70fef650f43 When Theodore McCarrick resigned his title as a cardinal of the Catholic Church in July, the church made one promise as shock waves rippled through the pews: McCarrick would face a canonical trial, the Vatican’s version of a criminal inquiry, for the sexual misconduct he allegedly committed. Four months later, McCarrick has moved from Washington, where he was once the archbishop and then a prominent diplomat, to a remote friary in Kansas. Vatican leaders have said no to American bishops' request that the Vatican conduct an investigation here into the disgraced ex-cardinal’s behavior. When the U.S. bishops tried to vote last week on new rules regarding bishops, designed to prevent another McCarrick-type scandal, the Vatican issued a last-minute directive telling them to not even take a vote. The question lingering on many Catholics' minds remains: What’s going to happen to McCarrick? The Vatican remains silent on the answer. “What I hear from the people of God who I’ve been listening to … the Archbishop McCarrick case has particularly upset them,” Bishop Robert Deeley of Maine told his fellow bishops in an emotional remark last week at the U.S. bishops' meeting in Baltimore, where numerous bishops raised demands for more investigation into McCarrick. "What the people don’t understand is, this behavior must have been known, because people are saying that it was known. And how did these promotions happen? I think that’s where the problem, a lack of trust, is. [Parishioners are asking] ‘Can we trust you?’ ” [Vatican tells U.S. bishops not to vote on sexual abuse proposals, spurns outside investigations] McCarrick’s long rise through the ranks of the church, even as rumors swirled in certain circles that the cleric acted inappropriately toward seminarians and young priests, has indeed touched a nerve. Combined with a major grand jury report in Pennsylvania less than a month after McCarrick’s resignation — which recounted decades of abuse by hundreds of priests in the state — the scandal has set off a new wave of protests, not seen since the Boston Globe’s revelatory reporting in 2002, condemning the church’s handling of abuse at the highest levels. Last month, McCarrick’s successor as archbishop of Washington, Cardinal Donald Wuerl, retired early, faced with parishioners' distrust that he truly didn’t know about McCarrick’s misconduct, as he claims, and that he mishandled abusive priests when he was bishop of Pittsburgh, as covered in the Pennsylvania report. The McCarrick scandal has even touched Pope Francis, after Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò wrote in a furious letter that Francis knew about the allegations facing McCarrick and should resign. Francis has not specifically responded to Viganò's claims, which are unproven but widely read. When McCarrick was removed from ministry in June, the church said he had been credibly accused of molesting a minor when he was a priest in New York, nearly 50 years ago. By the time he resigned a month later, another man had come forward to say that McCarrick abused him as a youth too, starting when he was about 11 years old. And two New Jersey dioceses where McCarrick previously worked admitted that they had settled two cases out of court involving McCarrick preying on young adult seminarians and priests, paying out $80,000 in one case and $100,000 in another. The Archdiocese of New York investigated the first case and found the alleged victim’s accusation credible, leading to McCarrick’s removal. Ed Mechmann, the director of the Safe Environment Program for the archdiocese there, said the Vatican had assigned the same New York review board to investigate the second accusation. That investigation is ongoing and will eventually be turned over to the Vatican as well, Mechmann said. Pat Noaker, a civil lawyer who represents both the accuser whose case led to McCarrick’s suspension and James Grein, the Northern Virginia man who says the ex-cardinal abused him starting around age 11, said he has heard inconsistent updates from various church officials about the status of the first case in Rome. “I have absolutely no confidence these men will receive justice from the Vatican. They protect their bishops and cardinals like princes, like the Saudis protect theirs,” Noaker said. The Vatican has declined to answer questions, including those from The Washington Post this week, about the state of an eventual trial in Rome for McCarrick. But some church watchers believe the Vatican is waiting until Grein’s case makes its way to Rome. It’s an easier case — because the victim was younger when the abuse started. According to Noaker, the other victim was 16 years old when McCarrick first put his hand in the teen’s pants while preparing for a Christmas service. Until the 1980s, Catholic commentator Ed Condon said, the church’s definition of sexual abuse of a minor only covered people under 16 years old. The age was raised to 18. “Under the operative law at the time of the accusation, it wasn’t a minor. If you pass a law, you change the provisions of a penal law; you can’t impose them retroactively,” said Condon, who trained as a canon lawyer — meaning he can practice in the Vatican’s own legal system. Avoiding any sexual liaisons is an obligation of priests under canon law, but having a sexual encounter with a person 16 or older was not necessarily considered a crime under canon law at the time, Condon said: “Which isn’t to say there isn’t sexual behavior that could result in a criminal process, but it’s not spelled out.” If McCarrick were charged with a crime in the molestation of the teenager before the Christmas service or the harassment of adults in New Jersey, Condon said, it might fall under categories such as “damage to the good of souls” and “public scandal.” “The difficulty they’re working with at the moment is trying to find a way of applying the law as it’s been applied for the last 20, 30 years, while representing the gravity of the McCarrick situation,” Condon said. That might mean the Vatican will simply wait to put McCarrick on trial until it can try him on the case of the younger victim, a more straightforward process. And that case might be slow in reaching Rome. McCarrick’s canon lawyer — who, like his civil lawyer, has declined requests for comment from The Post — could slow down the process, Condon said, by requesting time to produce evidence such as travel records that might show McCarrick was not in the same location as the victim at the alleged times of the assaults. If found guilty of sexual abuse of a minor, Condon said, McCarrick could face being laicized — meaning he would lose all status as a member of the Catholic clergy and would lose his church housing in Kansas. At the moment, he remains in the friary. Francis has ordered him to a life of prayer and penance from the very day he resigned from the College of Cardinals. Prayer and penance is typically a punishment imposed on a person convicted in a canonical trial, not a pretrial condition. So while McCarrick has not been convicted, in some sense, the Vatican is treating him as if he has already been sentenced. Marisa Iati and Michelle Boorstein contributed to this report. On another note, Pope Francis to Make Historic Visit to Abu Dhabi by Edward Pentin | December 6, 2018 | http://www.ncregister.com/blog/edward-pentin/pope-francis-to-make-historic-visit-to-abu-dhabi During the Feb. 3-5 trip, the first by a pontiff to the Arab Peninsula, the Holy Father will attend an interfaith meeting and celebrate a Mass for the country’s large immigrant Catholic population.
Wow! I don't know if people have watched The World Over yet, but Raymond Arroyo had a segment about a possible Eucharistic Miracle in Buffalo NY and the Bishop had the Host destroyed without looking into it! Bishop Malone, head of the Buffalo diocese, is currently in the midst of a firestorm regarding his handling of the current sexual abuse crisis. Eucharistic Miracles happen in areas where there is a lack of faith and lack of belief in the Real Presence. Why would the Bishop order it destroyed before even looking into it? The guest they had on said the Bishop's aid told the people on the ground at the Church he wanted it destroyed and didn't even want to see pictures of it. They had pictures on the show and it looked very worthy of investigation to me. I am floored! It is the Bishop's job to look into these things. How could he have ordered it destroyed when there is a possibility that a Miracle from Heaven was sent to his diocese?
Something very strange here. This doesn't soun d like the Malone we knew here in Maine. What the heck has happened. And how can you destroy a consecrated Host. Isn't that sacrilege?
I'm not really surprised anymore about much of anything, especially the Church. It seems men of no faith are in charge on Earth at the moment. Maybe there is more to It than we know or maybe his conscience bothers him when looking at our Lord. We should pray for his conversion.
I listened to a talk today from Fr. Ripperger. Very good on our current times. He said , and I am paraphrasing, we need to be detached from what his going on in the world and most especially the Church. We can't react emotionally or we will never survive our current times. Hard to do but good advice. Sometimes I feel so angry but lately I feel calm. God is purifying/chastising, whatever you wish to call it and He sees the whole picture. It's a nail biter but in the end, He knows what is best.
I've only just seen your post, Josephite. I wish I could be as trusting as you. I believe that James was a victim of McCarrick, possibly when he was quite young but I still have doubts about the grandfather and uncle. While I believe that James believes what he says on the video, I'm not so sure I believe all of it. I watched the video again and posted some of my thoughts on the thread Padraig started on this topic.
It could be that this will reach more people now. I am glad someone had the courage to contact EWTN about it. It is a great sadness that the Bishop would take this tact but it just doesn't seem all that surprising.
Yes, I agree Don_D! After all, Eucharistic miracles occur as a result of Divine initiative; there is no human collaboration apart from placing the host in question in water! So Jesus potentially acts to confirm His marvelous abiding Presence, and the Bishop seems to respond, "I'm not interested." Simply amazing! Safe in the Flames of the Sacred Heart!
Don, I don't mean to single out any one particular sin but if we are understanding correctly why God chastised Sodom and Gomorrah then He has possibly been warning us of the same thing occurring some time in the future. At a minimum, we know that Sodom and Gomorrah was chastised because they refused to repent and do penance for their numerous sins. I also had the same thought that Dolours stated on another thread and that is James Grein should stay as focused as possible on helping to stamp out sexual predation at all levels in the Church. Obviously, this alone is bad enough and I think that Our Lady and Our Lord tried to tell us as much. Recently, when I was reading about the seer Blessed Alexandrina Maria da Costa I noticed that Our Lord mentioned Sodom and Gomorrah to her, "Implore pardon . . . do what you preach! I am very much offended.... What dreadful criminals populate Hell! I warned Sodom and Gomorrah, but it had no effect. Unhappy ones . . . the same punishment will be meted out to you." https://www.ewtn.com/library/MARY/ALEXDRIN.HTM Sodom and Gomorrah was also mentioned by Our Lady or Our Lord to other seers. The first two seers prophecies below are from this link http://ia800200.us.archive.org/2/items/TheProphetsAndOurTimes/TheProphetsAndOurTimes.pdf . I do not know very much about these seers but the prophecies from 496AD could be speaking of the time that we are currently in and that which we are on the verge of. 65. Prophecy of Premo! (496) "Is such a sacrifice not enough to appease your wrath, O Lord? But no, what then is this noise of arms? these cries of war and fear? What do the four winds bring? Ah! the dragon has appeared in all countries and has brought terrible confusion everywhere. There is war everywhere. Men and people have risen up one against the other. War, war, war-civil war and foreign war. What frightening onsets. Everything is mourning and death; famine reigns in the fields. "The general revolution has followed. In these future happenings will Paris be destroyed? Jerusalem! Jerusalem! (Paris) save yourself from the fire of Sodom and Gomorrah, and from the sack of Babylon. Why Lord, do you not stop all this with Your Arm? Is the fury of men not enough without flaming ruins? Must the elements still serve Your wrath? Stop, Lord, stop! Towns are ruined. The elements are let loose. Cities are destroyed by earthquakes. Mercy and grace for Zion (Rome?); but You are deaf to our cries, and the Mount of Zion tumbles down with a crash. And here it is that the King of Zion (Pope?) along with his cross, with his sceptre and his triple crown, shaking off, on the ruins, the dust of his shoes, hastens to flee towards other shores. And is it not so, O Lord, that Your Church is rent asunder by her own children? "The sons of Zion are divided into two camps--one faithful to the fugitive Pontiff, and the other inclined or disposed to the government of Zion respecting the Sceptre, but breaking in pieces the triple crown. "But my spirit wanders and my eyes become obscured at the sight of this terrible cataclysm. But the Spirit said to me, that the man who hopes in God does penance, because the all powerful and merciful God will draw the world out of confusion and a new world will commence. Then the Spirit said to me: 'Here is the beginning of the end of Time which begins.' And I awoke terrified." 187. Theresa Neumann (September 6,1936) "The provocations have in these days attained their height. The furies of Hell rage now. The chastisement of God is inevitable. Every future petition to help them, to spare them, displeases Me. If you petition Me for the conversion of dying sinners in the last hour, I will hear you. No! do not petition Me to prevent this chastisement. Until now victims (many of whom existed in many parishes) have offered their merits to expiate for the crimes of mankind, which held back the wrath of God, but now their expiations are not enough and the chastisement is now certain and unpreventable. It will happen suddenly. Fortunate are those who already are in their graves. I have warned them and have postponed, as I did with Sodom, but Sodom would not listen to Me, nor do the people listen to Me nowadays, nor heed My warnings, therefore they will incur the sad experience of My wrath which they deserve." Our Lady to Marie-Julie Jahenny (January 5, 1904) “The French people will become very miserable. All the doors have been wide open to all languages, to the foreigners, to all those who wish to enter this cursed Sodom (Paris) where the Justice of my Divine Son is suspended over it.” http://www.mysticsofthechurch.com/2015/07/marie-julie-jahenny-breton-stigmatist.html Our Lady of Revelation to Bruno Cornacchiola (January 1, 1988) "You have some examples, Sodom and Gomorrah did not repent, they did not do penance and you know what justice made of them” [...] “Unless you do not convert, iron and fire will fall down upon you” [...] “What you call peace is nothing but deception because it lacks of conversion and everything is getting ready for a satanic war" https://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=it&to=en&rr=UC&a=https://doncurzionitoglia.wordpress.com/2016/04/20/segreto-3-fontane/ Here is another example of how widespread this is in the Church, Report Reveals Details of Ongoing Homosexual Network in Several Dioceses A 2012 investigation at the Connecticut seminary found evidence of a homosexual network that extended into several dioceses, and despite its findings, some of those involved were subsequently ordained to the priesthood. Thomas Wehner | Nov. 29, 2018 | http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/unholy-activity-uncovered-at-holy-apostles-seminary
Here is the link to the talk- This is part 1. There is a Part 2 which I haven't listened to yet. Everything from this priest I have listened to is good though
The Catholic World Report has an interesting article by Ed Condon on what options the Bishops are likely to consider for dealing with sexually active clergy, and clerical abuse of seminarians and other adults: https://www.catholicworldreport.com...e-for-handling-the-other-sexual-abuse-crisis/ The two comments on the article are worth reading too. Also in the CWR: https://www.catholicworldreport.com...largely-ignore-the-place-of-catholic-schools/ Fr. Peter Stravinskas expresses his amazement that the final document from the Youth Synod contains only one paragraph on Catholic schools. Why is he surprised? Catechesis isn't exactly a priority for a Pope and hierarchy obsessed with climate change and whatever else passes for social justice these days. Fr. Stravinskas is disappointed that there was nothing in the report encouraging parents to send their children to Catholic schools. I see that omission as a blessing, especially when we have a Jesuit Pope who put the author of "Heal me with your mouth - the art of the kiss" in charge of a Catholic University and made him a Bishop.
I also get a very bad feeling from Archbishop cupich. The things he says do not set well with me and even his picture gives me a bad feeling. It may sound weird but it is true. Sometimes i wonder who is really running the Show. Im an imperfect person here and im not always right though and am always open to new information . Thanks for all the info i will read the links today.
