Malta’s bishops tell the remarried: take Communion if you feel at peace with God http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/new...take-communion-if-you-feel-at-peace-with-god/ Here we have a situation in Malta in which communion is available to all civilly remarried should they want. These are not 'exceptional' cases!!
Take the exception and normalize it. It didn't take too long in Malta. PF is unstoppable except for prayer. Only prayer can stop his madness.
It will get much much worse. Heaven has told us as much. We are only in the best of the worst times till the Era of Peace. Allot of prayer and penance is necessary just to keep a float.
This article is so interesting: https://gloria.tv/article/W98aEY8j9Akh4xPyFT6S2Gcu9 'Bishop Erio Castellucci of Modena, Italy, published in an October issue of his diocesan weekly an edict ordering his priests not to receive in their parishes "seers, charismatics, journalists and intellectuals who manifest a hidden or open dissent towards the official Church and especially to Pope Francis".' Now why would the Bishop want to ban, 'seers', (I take it by seers he means those who claim to receive messages from heaven). But why would the Bishop assume that people who receive messages from heaven would be hostile to the Holy Father? Go figure. I am afraid the persecution is well under way. Quite openly now. What strange, strange times. I wonder if I went to the Bishop's Diocese supporting Civil Unions of perverts , or of giving the Holy Eucharist to know Adulterers if I would be banned? I wonder if Fr Martin or the now numerous heretical prelates would have been banned? Things are getting very,very grim very,very quickly.
If one were to slightly change the wording of this Bishop it makes interesting reading Bishop Erio Castellucci of Modena, Italy, published in an October issue of his diocesan weekly an edict ordering his priests not to receive in their parishes "seers, charismatics, journalists and intellectuals who manifest a hidden or open dissent towards official Church teaching and especially Humane Vitae.
Does anyone here truly believe that there would have been a place for St. Paul in today's Church? He certainly wouldn't have been a priest because he wouldn't have been allowed cross the threshold of any seminary.
The horror here is the word "feel" instead of know. These bishops know better. They should be very much afraid of God's wrath for misleading the laity. They need to tell the laity the truth: the Ten Commandments are still in effect, regardless of how one "feels" about them.
I I think DeGaulle’s question is apt. Perhaps they no longer believe. A lot of sin of presumption floating about these days.
I don't know the conscience of these bishops. But the late Mother Angelica always used to say that much is expected to those whom much is given. These bishops are walking in the shoes of the twelve apostles, so I would answer you that they should believe in God's wrath. All we can do is pray for them.
Yes. And in several of Fr. Malachi Martin's conversations with Canadian broadcaster, Bernard Jensen, he explained that some of the clergy, have lost their faith, and they do not even know that they have lost it! Imagine. No wonder there is so much confusion and disorientation in the world today. And after listening to Monsignor Fulton Sheen, even in 1947, they were under the same pressures. The devil never sleeps.
The following is from the article that Padraig posted, https://gloria.tv/article/W98aEY8j9Akh4xPyFT6S2Gcu9: La Nuova Bussola Quotidiana points out that in October Castellucci had a friendly public discussion with the theologian Andrea Grillo, an intimate enemy of the Catholic faith who habitually used to attack Benedict XVI or John Paul II. I believe that the following article from La Nuovo Bussola Quotidiana is the one referened, http://www.lanuovabq.it/it/giornalisti-banditi-e-leditto-soviet-di-modena and in it there is the following paragraph, In Modena, for example, Castellucci himself, not later than ten days ago, found himself publicly conversing in a diocesan initiative, with Andrea Grillo, the most influential liturgist lately, who has never lamented often personal criticism, not only all 'current prefect of divine worship, Cardinal Robert Sarah, but also to the magisterium of Benedict XVI and John Paul II. According to Castellucci's reasoning and public acts, should we mean that the "enemies" of the earlier popes may have open doors? which contained a link to the following article which gets into the details of the discussion between Castellucci and Grillo, http://www.webdiocesi.chiesacattoli...0045554_Quando_la_Chiesa_fa_i_sacramenti.html http://www.webdiocesi.chiesacattoli...inawap?id_pagina=45554&attiva_menu=0&nohtml=0 The last link is the one that I translated through Google, so there may be some errors but it might shed a little light on what is being discussed in regard to the liturgy, idk. Here is the translation: When Church does the sacraments How the celebrations begin with faith "When the Church Does the Sacraments": This is a provocative title of the diocesan conference of catechists, celebrated on Saturday, October 14, at the Family Center in Nazareth. Through a round table, which brought together liturgist Andrea Grillo, Don Ivo Seghedoni, pastor of St. Pius X, and our bishop Erio Castellucci, the catechists involved were asked to question how we think and live the sacramental experience. In particular, a question has been the basis for reflection: "How do our communities celebrate and how much our celebratory style has an impact on our community and the beginning of faith?" Proximity, reciprocity, and creativity were the key words of Don Ivo's interventions before and of Andrea Grillo, outlined by some of our archbishop's underlining. Don Ivo has traced back the events that - from the traumatic experience of the 2012 earthquake - led the parish community of San Pio to close their church and celebrate for about a year in the parish halls, and how this event was to stimulate rethink its celebratory style; as, despite the renunciation of the usual celebratory spaces, the community has gained the awareness that certain decisive aspects of the liturgy would be safeguarded because they were able to shape Christian life. Here is the importance of proximity, that is to keep alive the contact between people, to enjoy the gesture of gathering and gathering; reciprocity as an attention to the other and to the community dimension of the rite, avoiding an individualistic view of the mass; creativity as the ability to live spaces, movements, and actions. This loyalty to some of the irreducible principles had the ultimate outcome of deciding to completely rethink the liturgical space of the church with a new orientation of the assembly, altar and baptistery.This particular experience has therefore proved to be a propitious opportunity to re-initiate the community's liturgy, discovering - or rediscovering - the entire vital force and the ability to regain the faith of adults and children participating in it. Andrea Grillo, recalling these key words, has invited us to broaden his gaze and to grasp how the church has only recently rediscovered the preciousness of a liturgy that can enhance the elementary experiences of human life. Actions like gathering, singing, praying together, listening and praising, moving, eating and drinking are not simple gestures that enrich the rituals, almost as much as it is, in the end, to "understand" with the mind the celebrated mystery. On the contrary, just living deeply with these "human actions" allows you to enter into the mystery of the Passover of Christ. It is a genuine liturgical turning point that has only started a century ago and requires a patient reception work, and initiation of a celebratory style that we have learned to know only for fifty years. Even in catechesis, the courage to introduce, patiently, to the richness of liturgical gestures, not merely a repetition of a rite, but as a "gradual" immersion in community life where the ever-new presence of the Risen is breathed. There is, in essence, another "earthquake". What allows us to abandon some celebratory styles, some "pretensions" that accompany us for a long time, some "acquired rights" that actually impoverish our celebration instead of exalting and respecting it. Even at the catechetical level we can finally get rid of some "bad habits". How to group together all the children in the first banquets to allow them, instead, to celebrate with and through their parents. We can abandon the concern of making catechism the occasion to explain the sacraments in order to understand the Mass, to accompany them instead to experience the beauty of certain essential gestures that can astonish and reveal something of God. We can avoid having to invent something new to attract attention, as if "participation" meant giving each (or children) something to "do". We can, in short, give confidence to our humanity, accompanying and affirming it so that it may "feel" through all the senses involved the "touching" presence of the Lord. The conference has thus been the occasion to force us to some "sprawl" that demands to be welcomed, meditated and made concrete practice in our liturgies and our Christian initiation. If we have this "patient courage", we will discover the strength of a liturgical patrimony too often choked by the poverty of gestures.
Sigh. In other words lets reinvent the Liturgy. Let's make it up as we go along. It occurs to me that the earthquake that pulled that Church down was no random accident , but the Hand of God. For if they are behaving like this now after the Church collapsed what were these people like before it? When the cat's away the mice do play? What is Rome doing while these mice scurry about?
Padraig, I thought that the earthquake discussion may have been a sign also and I wrote that in my post and then I removed it. I have trouble reading between the lines in regards to the second article. I did wonder what gestures would they be referring to, genuflecting and/or kneeling, but I don't want to start any rumors. The small paragraph from the first Italian newspaper sums it up enough, it's worrisome but we know that already. Maybe we have a member who is fluent in Italian who can read the original articles and give us a summary?
These are very,very, very difficult times. But at all times we must maintain Charity. But the greatest gift of Charity we can give at the minute is the Truth. These people already have at least one foot down in hell. Be sure they do not drag you down there with them.
