Please double your prayers for the Holy Father. Everyone is focused on Cardinal Burke while it is the other Cardinals are the ones to watch and pray for. Namely the Italian Cardinals have had enough. It is difficult for some of you to understand but it is they who can do much damage. The prophecy stipulate moreover of a Judas to Peter; whoever this Judas is please pray for him. Pedro Regis makes it quite clear what happens consequentially and God's ire towards this Judas (and no it is not Burke.) http://www.today.it/cronaca/papa-francesco-dimissioni.html
Lets talk about Cardinal Burk...I agree with his Conservative stance on issues. Can some be tweeked. Possibly...who am I to judge. Does God really want us to revert to Latin Mass? I don't think so...even-though I truly love the ceremony. This is totally a third person view...Cardinal Burk is a little pompous. If he would have become the Pope, Cardinal Burk would have brought all the pageantry back to the Papacy. It just happens to be that Our Holy Father is much simpler and not into Papacy show. I have no idea about what personality Papa Francis has but Cardinal Burk is using the media to promote his agenda. The only difference is he is not the Pope. I am sure their is protocol at the Vatican and it seems Cardinal Burk does not follow it. To bring out a book, one week before the synod, was not appropriate. The politics at the Vatican are huge, Pope Francis could just be asking for a little humility and obedience. Brother al
I should stay out of this but I don't like to see people get bullied. I have read this entire thread and I believe several people are misinterpreting or misunderstanding Brian.....I don't see that he is promoting schism. He makes perfect sense to me.
HUMILITY is the virtue we must all assume. I think our Lord is hurt when we speak less than charitable towards anyone, whether it is someone on this forum, Cardinal Burke or Pope Francis. Our sinful nature wants to lash out at whatever and whomever challenges our comfort zone. I'm no saint, but I see things different now then I use to. I will defend our faith teachings to anyone who has ears to hear, but it is a total waste of time to try to beat it into anyone's head who does not want anything to do with it. For instance, I am not the least bit convinced that LTTW are authentic messages, so I say why and leave it lay. Some don't believe in Pedro Regis or Garabandal messages and I respect that (though I don't agree). But to have the constant drum beat of rudeness that is sometimes displayed on MOG must wound our Lords heart. I know our Lord admonished those who argue about whether the consecration of Russia has taken place or not in his messages to Verne Dagenais. To what end does one argue? For truth? Is it not pride to take a discussion beyond reasonableness and into rudeness? Just saying, we are all on a journey and we cannot help anyone when pride is our end. MOG is so much more enjoyable when people are bringing in new thought, new faith messages or good cheer. I am not a hand holding, kumbiya singing type of guy, but I think it is wise at time to take a chill pill.
Thanks Heidi. With time, all of this will become much more clear. If I'm wrong, and I really REALLY hope I am, I will gladly come back here and eat humble pie. If I'm not wrong ... how many of the arrogant bullies here will do likewise?
Those are the cracks that annoy me...arrogant bullies. This is the I statements I am sorry i have offended...so many people. I am going to take a few weeks off and work on my spirituality. I just get too upset with some comments and feel they are not appropriate for any Catholic forum. Its ok to ask questions, give comments or try to discern prophecy. But to proclaim the Pope is bad (with no evidence and all speculation; from third parties) brings conflict and separation from our Holy Mother Church. I don't believe in Garanbandal but I do appreciate and respect Glenn's mission. But when someone in the Garanbandal family states that the Pope is the Anti-pope...like they did in the thread. Then there better be some strong facts behind it. lTTW is not my cup of tea. God cares about souls (prayer, sacrifice and sacraments) not sure he is into current events. But as a member of this forum, I try to be open to others beliefs and spirituality. I have had my run-ins with Blue but we both understand... we have opposite starting points in our spirituality (aquinas vs augustine). But those arguments have been debated for hundreds of years. Some people walk into a thread, half way through and don't see how it started. Then they are replying to something which they have no idea...what is going on. That is the life of a forum. This forum has its place but now i am starting to feel for Padraig ...it is a big spiritual responsibility. I am too serious about basic right and wrongs. Are the Popes words open ended...yes. But in my eyes it doesn't affect the church. He gets the secular media talking and the debates begin. The greatest teachers always start with a question (creates debate). Maybe Our Holy Father will open up some hearts and begin the conversion process. May God Bless everyone on this forum. When i come back (which i will, God willing) maybe i will say a Hail Mary before I enter. It might clear my head spiritually and help me to be more charitable. Maybe some of you will join me. Padraig probably gets 2 to 3 thousand sign ons per day. That should bug the "created one". May Gods Will be Done Brother al
FS said...Maybe Our Holy Father will open up some hearts and begin the conversion process. Maybe FS, maybe. Heres one of his fans... He thinks Pope Francis and the Church are on the right track.
It was Francis who conceived and called the Synod. ·It was Francis who praised Cardinal Kasper’s “profound and serene theology” of “mercy” according to which public adulterers would be allowed to receive Holy Communion while continuing in their adultery (as Francis authorized when he was Archbishop of Buenos Aires). ·It was Francis who appointed all of the Synod’s radically progressive controllers. ·It was Francis who presided over every minute of the Synod, constantly passing notes to his handpicked General Secretary, Cardinal Baldisseri. ·It was Francis who stacked the Synod’s drafting committee with six additional radical progressives. ·It was Francis who overrode the Synod’s vote by ordering published and distributed worldwide the totally rejected and shamefully heterodox midterm report—a veritable transcript of Kasper’s “profound and serene” theology—which called for Holy Communion for public adulterers on a “case-by-case basis” and an “opening” to “gays” that would include “guaranteeing to them a fraternal space” and “accepting and valuing their sexual orientation.” ·It was Francis who ordered publication of three objectionable paragraphs in the Synod’s final report even though they failed to receive the required 2/3-majority and thus should not have been part of the report. ·It was Francis who, at Synod’s conclusion, denounced “so-called traditionalists” for not being open to “the God of surprises” and who declared the next day that “God is not afraid of new things!”
Many good points here Fatima. This thread is not for everyone , and they know it . Yet cant help but keep looking.
"Ah, this rabble who know not the law, they are damned" ... is that what you mean Mac? Who is it anyway ... looks like a lady who goes to my Church.
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How much poison there is in this thread... A good antidote can be found at Mark Mallett's latest posting: http://www.markmallett.com/blog/a-tale-of-five-popes-and-a-great-ship/
Today's first reading: Beloved: Remind them to be under the control of magistrates and authorities, to be obedient, to be open to every good enterprise. They are to slander no one, to be peaceable, considerate, exercising all graciousness toward everyone. For we ourselves were once foolish, disobedient, deluded, slaves to various desires and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful ourselves and hating one another. But when the kindness and generous love of God our savior appeared, not because of any righteous deeds we had done but because of his mercy, he saved us through the bath of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, whom he richly poured out on us through Jesus Christ our savior, so that we might be justified by his grace and become heirs in hope of eternal life.
And then there is this. I want to throw up. Just like Padraig was saying, when they start with new terms that you don't understand, something is up. https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/...sh-synod-text-cuts-marriage-between-a-man-and
The latest wonder from Mark Mallett. What a gift of the Holy Spirit this humble man has and what faith: A Tale of Five Popes and a Great Ship http://www.markmallett.com/blog/a-tale-of-five-popes-and-a-great-ship/
This is bad, but I wouldn't say that it should be blamed on the Pope. He doesn't even know English, does he?
