I was just checking news online and ran across this piece on Fox. Pope Francis is mentioned. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/0...-hate-in-new-magazine.html#.V5--MNVBqVE.email
The more and more I watch these arguments and events unfold and develop, the more and more I am convinced that Freemasons have infiltrated the Church. Freemasons have always had a love affair with Eastern mysticism and Islam.
Who are you trying to kid?!? Anyone who reads today's headlines fully grasps that Pope BXVI was wholly correct in his assessment, and that Bergoglio's response to it was a typical (and frankly vile) liberal knee jerk reaction to a man speaking the (non PC) truth. Pope BXVI was too kind and too much of a gentleman to do anything besides "apologize." It illustrates the tenor of both men quite well
Cry me a river. Islam is inherently violent. That's because the Koran is the literal dictation of a fallen angel (disguised as Gabriel) to Muhammad in a cave. There is no room for interpretation. As far as your "being negative to Pope Francis" diversion, may I turn the table on you and ask why you are being so "negative" towards Pope Urban and Pope Benedict? The fact is that it is perfectly permissible to be critical towards the Pope or any Bishop when it comes to non-infallible matters. If the Pope is going to dabble in politics then he opens himself up to being criticized. This ain't some intellectual game either: people are being tortured alive and murdered in the most demonic ways possible right now in Syria. And it ain't Catholic nuns who are doing it.
It is impossible to have peace with Muslims, as the Koran demands subjugation or death of all non Muslims.
I believe that the Pope did differentiate between ISIS and the entire people of that religion: One can say that the so-called ISIS, but it is an Islamic State which presents itself as violent . . . because when they show us their identity cards, they show us how on the Libyan coast how they slit the Egyptians’ throats or other things… But this is a fundamentalist group which is called ISIS… but you cannot say, I do not believe, that it is true or right that Islam is terrorist. I think that our Lady also would not condemn that faith as a whole...other than perhaps saying that it was in error, not due to the people as a whole but to Satan's influence....and that because all those classifying themselves as belonging to that faith or religion are also her children. And of course there is a meaning in the big plan...esp. for our times....for the designated name of the most important place God sent His mother as His representative for how to prevent all of these current disasters that just keep multiplying: FATIMA. And of course the pointing out of the holiest person as designated, when asked, by our Lady of Medjugorje, as a Muslim woman which pronouncement shocked the simple faithful there. That is an example in itself of teaching us not to classify individual persons so that they lose their individual intentions within God's Divine Will. I doubt then, try as they will, anyone is going to get this Pope to call Islam itself as a terrorist religion. Perhaps, from his own life experience, he also sees other general type "classifications" that could be made, say, about the Mafia who have been and still can be treacherous in their victimization or own type of terrorizing communities, or the "terroristic" type tactics of the colonizers of South American countries who came from "Catholic" regions....and many who still divide and keep them divided as far as a class system and control in still terrible conditions. Many also go pray to the "madonna" while watching friends and relatives brutally slaughter their victims/also beheading them like in Mexico. The Pope has also mentioned in the past that there must be some kind of military control over such terrorist activity.
That's right! They see the emptiness of true Islamic values and beliefs among their fellow lax, lapsed Muslims. These youth then travel from across the world to the Middle East to show those lapsed Muslims how real Muslims live and behave. ISIS and the other Jihadists are simply putting Islam into action.
I agree that they are Gods children, and descendants of Abraham. Mother Mary loves all of Gods children. But I am sure Mother Mary would condemn the entire religion, just not those who adhere to it. I have a lot of respect for followers of Islam in that they follow their faith very devoutly. their woman dress modestly. the number of countries that Islam has a theocracy amazes me. If we had that kind of strict adherence in the Catholic faith, and nations that defined themselves as Catholic instead of secular it would be heaven on Earth.
Indeed. I'm sick and tired of the underprivileged garbage being shoved down our throats. How underprivileged was this Councillor's son? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ted-for-trying-to-reach-Syria-returns-UK.html He got off scott-free - wasn't even charged.
I’m convinced that the Devil raised up Islam to be nothing other than a counterfeit distorted caricature of the Church simply in order to shut Catholics up about the rights of Christ so that nobody draws a comparison between the Church and Islam. The State should be a Catholic Confessional State! – What? Like the Islamic State? Women should dress modestly! – What? They should wear a burka and niqab? The husband is the head of his family! – What? And treat women like the Muslims do? Homosexuality is immoral! – What? Are you going to toss them off of buildings too? We should pray the Liturgy of the Hours and the Divine Office. -What? Should we bow down on carpets too? The priest and laity should all face East at the Mass! – What? Should we also face Mecca too? The State’s laws should be subject to Christ the King. – What? What happened to freedom? States should recognize the true religion and put restrictions on non-Catholic and anti-Catholic practices and seek to convert them. – What? Like the Shariah Law? Are you going to kill people if they refuse?" -Ann Barnhardt
There have been reports, seemingly quite authentic, of jihadists becoming revulsed by the slaughter and converting, often in response to dreams and visions, to Christianity. Hopefully, this is a growth area. Not all young men can be natural psychopaths.
I'll say again Gang!! I've decided that whatever Francis does & sez has near ZERO IMPACT on my near term Life & Well Being and it's just another distraction from ...!!!????? .... There are far too many other concerns that demand my attention ...... & yours too I expect!! GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!
I see where you're coming from, David. Of course there are many peace-loving Muslims. But Islam itself is not a religion that promotes peace. When Obama says it is he is being duplicitous. When the pope takes a similar tact he might be trying to calm the waters (and I don't think he necessarily has to indict Islam) but to equate the vile acts being committed in the name of Islam with anything evil done by Christians is truly a contortion. There is no equivalence. I'm not bashing the pope. If he comes from a socialist perspective so be it. His job is to lead us all to God. I just can't ignore the distortions. It would be better to say nothing at all.
So, if we follow Brian...then we should get rid of all muslims. If we follow Our Holy Father...we should only get rid of a certain group of muslims. Hate to say but Our Holy Father right. May Gods Will be Done
A small number perhaps. But if it were only 10% of them that are extremists and they have built a network that is both deadly and feared by those who live around them it is to be reckoned with and the world leaders have given them a pass. Now they have buddied up with other world powerful extreme leaders and they will work towards the end of destroying anything in their way, while the UN and other world leaders give lip service towards them. If Muhammad had not been such a ruthless thug himself, these people would not have a platform to work from. They will do their grave damage upon societies until they are eradicated. As we stand today, they are just one of many groups that have given their soul and will over to the devil. In the past, God protected countries and societies from them, but now, because the free world has turned so radicalized against God's commandments, he has lifted the restrainer and will allow them to persecute the Church and civilizations. Prayer is our only hope now. Somehow Pope Francis feels that being nicy nice to them they will show mercy. He is wrong on this and it will soon show tale.
Not nicey, the vatican and the pope have asked for the military intervention against isis since 2015. And they stated if the Christians and other communities werent protected it would expand to the whole world. The church understands when force is needed. https://cruxnow.com/church/2015/03/13/vatican-backs-military-force-to-stop-isis-genocide/ b a
No, our Holy Father is not right. An Italian Christian murdering his mother in law is not the same as a Muslim slitting a priest's throat in the middle of Mass. There would have been no controversy had he said that not all Muslims are terrorists or had he said that the vast majority of Muslims only want to live their lives in peace. He was wrong to say that Muslim terrorists are not true Muslims because he cannot say in truth that what the terrorists are doing in the name of Islam is incompatible with either their holy book or the example of the founder of their religion. He was also wrong to drag Catholics, even Catholics who clearly and unequivocally have broken God's law by committing violent acts, down to the level of jihadists. Did Brian actually say that we should get rid of all Muslims?
I was referring to the contrasting words that Pope Benedict spoke on this topic and how Pope Francis has always spoken on it.
" The definition of fundamentalism is: a religious movement characterized by a strict belief in the literal interpretation of religious texts, especially within American Protestantism and Islam, which is what the ISIS guys are." I am not aware of Catholic movements that commit crimes because of their religious beliefs. The choice of words used were confusing the issue, and not appropriate to the circumstances. God Bless
