The Divine Will

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  1. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Guest

    I remember reading this post of yours on another thread. However, I am someone who doesn't know how to 'discern' visions like this. :unsure:
    It is simply not given to me by the Lord :(
    But I love reading about the mystical experiences of others. So amazing! So wonderful! :love:
     
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  2. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Words of Cardinal Ratzinger before the 2005 Conclave:

    In the hour of Gethsemane, Jesus transformed our rebellious human will in a will conformed and united with the divine will. He suffered all the drama of our autonomy and, in carrying our will in God’s hands, he gave us true freedom: “Nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will” (Matthew 26:39). In this communion of wills our redemption takes place: to be friends of Jesus, to become friends of God. The more we love Jesus, the more we know him, and the more our genuine freedom grows, as well as the joy of being redeemed. Thank you, Jesus, for your friendship!

    Safe in the Divine Will!
     
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  3. Don't know if this youtube series has already been mentioned but I found it recently.....haven't had time to listen very long as yet:

    (3 parts....3 videos)

    Divine Will Thomas M Fahy Dominican Retreat Centre 11- 03- 2017 Part 1


     
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  4. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    Tom is a good friend who we have known for many years. He is extremely knowledgeable about the writings of Luisa and living in the Divine Will. He is one of the few people in our times that I believe may actually live in the Will of God. He also has a website as does Fr. Joseph Iannuzzi for those interested in learning more.
     
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  5. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    It was Cardinal Ratzinger who released Luisa's writings from the Vatican archives!
     
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  6. Yes, I found the interview with him re: Garabandal also interesting, knowing the center/building that he has created there which instructs visitors, I believe, on the Divine Will. I'm not such a purist that I would deny one kind of revelation from relating to another while I know others are rather possessive of their connections to or knowledge of particular individual private revelations. I believe they benefit one another as well as help many to comprehend, in more understandable ways the more technical explanations that may be more difficult to grasp on a personal level. If that made sense!

    I won't mix that video into this discussion since the discussion is on the Divine Will, well offered generously to via lynnfiat....people can easily find it via Google.
     
  7. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    Yes, Tom does have a house in Garabandal - House of the Divine Will.
     
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  8. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    "... it seemed that blessed Jesus took the Cross and placed it upon the shoulders of the Holy Father, helping him to carry it Himself. While doing this, He added: “My Church seems to be dying, especially with regard to the social conditions, which anxiously wait for the cry of death. But, courage, my son; after you have reached the top of the mountain, as the Cross is lifted up, all will be shaken, and the Church will lay down Her aspect of a dying one, and will reacquire Her full vigor. The Cross alone is the means for it. Just as the Cross alone was the only means to fill the void which sin had made, and to unite the abyss of infinite distance that existed between God and man; in the same way, in these times the Cross alone will make my Church’s forehead rise, with courage and splendor, so as to confuse and put to flight the enemies." Book of Heaven
     
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  9. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    I felt that I needed to post this experience that I had back in Oct., 1996 as it is so important for our times. For your discernment:

    While praying my morning prayers and while still lying in bed, I saw what appeared to be a glistening sea of water (my eyes were open), as though the sun were shining on waves of water making them appear as glass, and a feeling of great peace came over me, Suddenly, up from the sea came a large dark mass, beginning on the left side and then almost covering the sea completely. Upon seeing this, the peace left my body. I wondered about what I had seen, but thought no more of it.
    A while later while getting ready for Mass, I heard interiorly, "I do not want you to drown in the sea of doubt." This was not said very clearly to me so I ignored it as my imagination. At this point what I had seen earlier did not come to my mind at all. A few minutes later, "Listen carefully to My words and go where I lead you. Latch on to me and do not let go!" About 15 minutes later, "Take heed to My words as I do not want you to be swept away in the tide of disbelief that is coming upon the world!" When I wondered why the words did not come to me as usual, He said, "That you may ponder them in your heart. Trust!" Later in the day as I thought about this, I understood that this was not said to me but to everyone!
    As things begin to escalate in the Church, which we are even experiencing right here in our Diocese, I now understand why Jesus told me this. I am so thankful for Our Blessed Mother who keeps us all under Her Mantle. Please remain there and pray many Rosaries!
     
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  10. Mario

    Mario Powers

    "Take heed to My words as I do not want you to be swept away in the tide of disbelief that is coming upon the world!

    This tide of disbelief is very strong, lynnfiat. I have struggled going to Sunday Masses of late. I have always been one to dress up on Sunday, for this is the Lord's Day. I'm one to pray both before Holy Mass as well as afterwards. In addition, I receive Holy Communion on the tongue. But in recent years I struggle with a spirit of disdain toward others. People dress so causally, especially in warmer months. Chatter in church before and after Holy Mass is very common. Most people receive Holy Communion in the hand. Many of these brethren are decent Catholics, but there appears to be a lack of awe in the Divine Liturgy, a spirit of unmoved familiarity. It seems entrenched. I feel increasingly alone and fight against judgmentalism. This past week, Geralyn and I visited a nearby Church to promote a local pregnancy center. When I went up to receive Holy Communion, the extraordinary minister became completely flustered because I desired to receive on the tongue. Perhaps very few in that parish do so.

    I see this as a great danger. St. Alphonsus Liguori believed the Great Apostasy would be undergirded by a change in the Holy Mass that would eliminate the Real Presence. If my sense is right, there are enough attendees currently at Holy Mass who lack the depth to perceive such a deception. JoeJerk has wrecked the moral foundations in the West. His greatest victory, however, may be the suppression of the Eucharist.:(

    We must fervently pray to remain faithful until the end.:notworthy::love::)

    Safe in the Refuge of the Immaculate Heart!
     
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  11. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    Saint Mario,

    You have touched the mystical. You are not alone, I feel the same way plenty of times. There are more of us then you realize. And there are hidden saints in every church. We might be few and far between...but we are there. God called us to be more in tune to what is going on. All we can do is..,pray for those around us. And continue on our journey. When I pray during the consecration...I know, in that moment, it is the most holy part of our ritual. That moment is my closest moment to God. I really don't think many people have that type of faith. But it's OK, God has a plan. We need to be examples to others. that's all God asks.

    May God Bless You and Your Family

    Brother al
     
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  12. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

  13. border collie

    border collie Archangels

    I used to be very judgemental towards those talking in church especially after communion and before the priest has even left the alter at end of mass, priests and people not genuflecting etc. I discovered a little trick that helped me a lot, I close my eyes! If I noticed somebody about to genuflect I would close my eyes for a couple of seconds, and if they did or didn't was not my concern anymore. I also noticed if I prayed in the DW for the chatterboxes around me, in the name of all chatterboxes, past, present and future, and put an "I love You" on every individual word they said. And offer it with and in the DW to the glory of the Father, the chatterboxes would seem to disappear very quickly from the church! I would also offer the Divine version of their lives and all their Divine acts in the DW to the glory of the Father and the coming of His kingdom on earth. This method of prayer has led me to not seeing anybody except Jesus when I attend mass and when people say to me, "Oh I saw you at mass," I can truthfully reply, "I didn't see you, only Jesus!"
    Also in the DW when we receive Jesus, we enter into him and we can receive him on his own tongue and love him with his own love in the name of everyone, and make reparation with his own reparations for all those who receive him carelessly or not in a state of grace.
    I hope these little insights are of some help....
     
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  14. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    Dear Border Collie, what wonderful advice! It's exactly what I try to do - close my eyes so I don't notice the things going around me and offer all the distractions in the Divine Will. Many years ago just after coming into the Church, I was on line for Confession and I noticed two ladies walking past the Tabernacle without genuflecting or even looking at it. I thought to myself how disrespectful they were to Jesus and He said to me, "How many times YOU have done this to Me!" What a wake up call that was - I felt so ashamed! I realized at that moment how hurt Jesus is when we ignore His Presence. Once after that time I happened to look back at the Tabernacle to tell Jesus "goodbye", and He said to me, "Not a glance goes unnoticed!" Let us make reparation for all those who do ignore His Presence. He loves us so very much!
     
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  15. border collie

    border collie Archangels

    I spent a very unusual day in hospital recently. I was called in very early in the morning for an op which would last around an hour. To make a long story short I was left sitting in a waiting room for over 7 hours at which time the surgeon who was to do the op came and informed me they had misplaced all my notes and they couldn't be found and apologised profusely on behalf of the hospital. On my part, from the moment I had sat down 7 hours previously, I had placed myself in the DW and was in constant prayer all that time. The surgeon more than likely would have expected a negative angry response from me but I was filled with such peace that I only smiled at this setback, and thanked God for it. A little while later they informed me they would go ahead with the op based on a recent scan they had found. One thing I was concerned about was the insertion of a stent and I queried this, (I had the same op some time ago and got an infection from the stent which took 6 weeks to recover from) the surgeon said it was only in very rare cases a stent would not be used. They went ahead with the op and when I came around after the anesthetic some hours later, I was informed they didn't need to put in a stent! I have never recovered from anything so quickly as from that procedure and I have had a good few! I do believe it was the DW that made the notes be misplaced and gave me all that time to get into deep prayer. The nurses were asking if I was bored sitting all that time in the waiting room looking at nothing, with no book or anything... I couldn't begin to tell them!
     
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  16. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    Thank you Jesus and Mama Mary! How wonderful. All is peace in the Divine Will.
     
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  17. AED

    AED Powers

    This really inspires me Border Collie. I need to get back to this devotion and attitude of heart. I had a challenging week with all my family on a beautiful lake. Should have been blessed but instead very difficult. Some hurt feelings and some impatient tempers and me in the middle not living in the DW and barely saying my prayers. You had serious scary stuff happening and yet you lived through it in the DW. And reaped grace upon grace. I had a nothing-burger problem and got all unwrapped over it. God is teaching me through your post. Thank you! And I hope you are feeling recovered.
     
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  18. AED

    AED Powers

    Immensely helpful. I need to learn to pray like this. I need to form your thoughts into a prayer I can say. To love Jesus with His own love in the name of everyone. Wow. I must reread this and figure out how I can do it in a way I can remember. This summer has been so busy with family I have lost the Secret silence of the heart. I must get back to my hours of adoration and my daily prayers. I know Jesus is waiting for me to wake up. Tonight I am asking Him for the grace to pray like this.
     
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  19. AED

    AED Powers

    I could have written this post. I struggle with the same things aware that I may be more at fault for my attitude than they are for their lack of reverence or understanding. I often feel alone too. But I think we are many. We just don't know each other. This forum is a gift from God.
     
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  20. AED

    AED Powers

    Thank you for telling us. We must beg for the grace of final perseverance. And for the protection of the Ark that is Our Lady. In her Immaculate Heart we are sheltered as Noah was but as I keep reminding myself we must stay very very close to her so we can stay close to Jesus.
     
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