Well, I thought about your point that it could be our Holy Father and immediately I said not! Then I look at how confusing some of his points are and I said to myself, it is possible, but highly unlikely. Then it came to me, this person is surely of the mindset of our Holy Father....... so what the heck, let him speak. He isn't any more confusing then others who have recently joined the forum. It's all part of the diabolical disorientation foretold. It's here to stay!
One of the things I love about converts to the Faith is that they show evidence of really thought. For if they hadn't really thought about things (most of them) they would not have wound up Catholics. Some of them very,very deep study indeed.. On the other hand we born into Catholics tend often to be box ticking , the conveyor belt, mass production Church line will get us there, type Catholics. Maybe this is why Jesus talks about spitting the Tepid out of His mouth. But what is so interesting is that many of these thinking Catholic Converts are asking really serious, deep, challenging questions about what is going on in the Church. Why? Well perhaps because they do think deeply about things. This is not a common habit. Folks usually go along and get along. Witness China. A population infantilised into Zombies by the CCP. But we Catholics have our own share of zombies.
Actually it was someone suggested to me as a joke that he might be the Holy Father. I thought the idea was so funny I took it up as a joke. But it's true his opinions do perfectly reflect the Party Line. It's like listening to a Vatican Press Office release. Like a perfect echo.
Ezdra, You have proven braver than most. Many of your posts have taken the approach that Pope Francis can do very little wrong. I was basically in your camp until Amoris Laetitia was published and debate swirled about concerning Chapter 8, especially (for me) surrounding paragraph 308 where it is acknowledged that the text could cause confusion. How can the Holy Father allow an acknowledgement of potential confusion remain in an encyclical whose purpose is to edify the faithful? That has ever since caused similar distress in me when quotes of Francis pilot murky waters. Finally, you ask us, "Are you guys happy?" You have to admit, that was a not so veiled attempt to make us experience a guilt trip. On top of that you express a not so subtle wish for disciplinary action by the Vatican against MOG! Ezdra, you are a brother in the Lord. I love you in the Lord. But when you choose to swim against the tide, expect pushback. And when pushback is presented charitably, please, offer no guilt trips or veiled threats. Safe Under Mary's Mantle!
Oh I don't believe them but I did have to stop taking it because of the nausea. I was working at the time as a software and database engineer. It had quite an effect in combination with sulfasalazine and methotrexate which in itself causes quite a bit of nausea and fatigue. It was having too much of an effect on my productivity and ability to focus for work so I asked to be taken off of it but I remained on the sulfasalazine which worked very well for a few years. I am hoping that it works. I am no longer employable because of this illness and having failed so many medications I have more flexibility now with side effects. I certainly do not want to take any more of the biologic meds (I call them Frankenstein drugs) that are using human and animal antibodies to block T cell reactions now that I understand them. So I thought I should go back to square one and try again. I really have nothing to lose.
You have a good attitude, Don. I will pray for this new regimen to succeed for you. I am so glad you are eschewing the Frankenstein drugs. I didn’t even use them on my cat. Disgusting.
I’d like to hear more about this Don. I’m taking an injectable anti cholesterol drug (a human monoclonal antibody) and I wonder if it shares similar concerns, though its side effect profile in quite minimal. I’ll send you a PM.
Thank you HH, I really hope that they work. If they don't (it can take 3-4 months for results) I plan to try using different herbs to try and find some way to treat this rather than go back on them. I wish I had known all those years ago but I didn't. As far as I am concerned the manufacturers should be required by law to inform people of their origin and method of interaction in layman terms. At least Bishop Strickland is on the ball about all this. https://twitter.com/Bishopoftyler/status/1247734548361809925
Thank you for posting about Bishop Strickland and also for the rest of your posts about this. I went back online last night to try to find out more about the actual cells used in the products and it is not the same online as it was a year or so ago: I can’t find any details about the cells used! One drug uses Chinese hamster ovary tissue. That sounds delightful. But there is no mention of the exAct way Enbrel and Humira are derived. Plus there are more drugs now. It seems as though it has been hushed up, and why am I surprised. I will pray mightily for your new regimen to work for you. “He heals all our infirmities, He pardons all our iniquities, By His Wounds we are healed.”
Sorry coming to the party late.... ..I have restored all what you deleted for clarity...please don't mass delete any of your posts if you want to say something say it otherwise don't bother....that said i'm not interested in your posts but you gave me a little bit of work to do that I don't need to be doing if you continue to wreck threads with deleting post I will personally ban you..
Actually that's incorrect Ezdra is using a proxy server... I have a funny feeling this might be an old banned user...
The shroud on information is troubling. I pray Don does well with the chloroquine drug. I really really cant take these vaccines derived from BABIES (hard truth hidden under false words) into my body. I pray I have the courage to resist the pressure that will inevitably come. I have bowed to pressure in the past to get the flu vaccine and I wish I hadn't. I certainly wasnt healthier from it but in the last 3 years suffered 3 nasty respiratory flues. I have a friend who is a highly qualified MD in late 60's who wont get it. He is an atheist--no religious objection but from a medical standpoint. He says it is basically useless in anyone over 60.
And the world still keeps going down the same horrible road. Disgusting!! And this comes from the bastion of morality center....China. Not that America is all that much better mind you.
I’m glad I followed my intuition then. Deserves close scrutiny. It’s too late in the game to tolerate retread trolls.
Yes, there is no doubt that this info is becoming harder to find online. Humira was the drug that uses hamster tissues if I remember correctly but of course there could be several that use this same mechanism by now since the market has literally exploded with these drugs. I take comfort in knowing that all sins are forgivable except for the sin of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. That said, these methods of using animal and aborted child cell lines for medications and other product development is unacceptable and disgusting not to mention damning so far as what God has told us is unpleasing to Him. I can't imagine working in a field that relies on the death of children for it's livelihood.
It most certainly isn't. When we had our children we were automatically scheduled during my wifes pregnancy for these tests and she asked them if we could opt out since aborting our child regardless of any challenges was simply out of the question. Period. End of story. Here, we run the test and give you the results so that you can go home and make an "informed" choice. China simply does away with the veiled nicety by socially pressuring you not to be a drag on the state and society. The same goes for elderly care. We ship our parents and grandparents off to medicare run state facilities where they are abused and suffer indignity at the hands of strangers and then sit comfortably in our homes and in outrage condemn the minimum wage employee who abuses them. Our societies are unhinged. It's no wonder euthanasia has become popular. These things are the result of self absorbed people far from God. People who have no love in them and a society that instead of encouraging that love instead encourages selfishness. At some point it has to end.
I remember when Ezdra came back on the forum, I thought he was banned and was wondering why he was back. Actually, Ezdra himself says he was banned: