So what exactly is it about Modernism that is so bad.

Very true. It can all be summed up in four words: I WILL NOT SERVE.

 

It reminds me of walking a tightrope. There is a danger of creating an insular, Traditionalist paranoid world, inward looking, always on the defensive, seeing enemies everywhere, being self congatulatory, fearful.

On the other side of the tightrope a Liberal sponge that bends and weaves to every passing notion it no loner has any perceptual core or heart.

I think a good example of a Traditionalist mindset in the secular world was Senator Joe Mc Carthy, who saw danger and enemies everywhere:

 

I think the problem lately, is that anyone who wants to adhere to Christ's teachings is called a "traditionalist" by the Church and a "bigot" by the world. There is a difference between one who just wants everything done like it was when they grew up, and one who wants the glory of God and God's will to be done. Again....motive. What benefit to stop wearing one's religious habit, to stop kneeling at the consecration, to turn the Mass into a social gathering, to dress like slob, to allow women to take over priestly duties (taking away all gender from God also) what glory does this bring to God? Any?? Or does it just cater to the selfish whims of a few worldly people always concerned for their own "rights" and "comfort"? I really don't meet any true traditionalists that won't accept change at all, but I do meet many real Catholics who know their faith, have great concern over the lack of reverence to our Lord in the Mass. I think the ones who we think of who are true "Traditionalists" all left the Church after Vatican II already.

 

1 Corinthians 3:4

…3for you are still fleshly. For since there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not fleshly, and are you not walking like mere men? 4For when one says, "I am of Paul," and another, "I am of Apollos," are you not mere men? 5What then is Apollos? And what is Paul? Servants through whom you believed, even as the Lord gave opportunity to each one.…

 

I agree with much of what has been said and I've always thought of it as follows:
traditionalist=conservative=following the rules
modernist=liberal=bending the rules to what "feels good"

I do feel that much of what is wrong with our world and why we have the storm approaching us (upon us?) is to punish us for our sins and the cause of many of our sins has to do with secularism or feeling that we can make the rules up to what we (not God) think are right and wrong. But many traditionalists/conservatives, myself included, have fallen into the trap of the "look at them!" judging of the "other side" and that's where Pope Francis has been very helpful for my and others souls, to get us to just let God judge and only worry about what we can do better ourselves. Let God sort the rest out.

 

Thanks for showing us the pictures. I think cheerless is a nice way of putting it! This is an excellent example of modernism being applied to architecture. To me, much of modernism is tied to atheism and is therefore devoid of hope, happiness.

 

Modernism = Sterility...sterile love, sterile faith, sterile hope and sterile charity.

 

i quite like this definition of modernism.

Modernism in general is a state of mind in which the holder derives ongoing pleasure and satisfaction from the thought that he or she, as a modern person, has knowledge and understanding superior to the knowledge and understanding of the people of earlier times. This attitude is usually based on an awareness of the advances of modern times (say, from about the year 1500 A.D. onward) in the physical sciences and in technology, with particular application to the objects of religious belief. This state of mind is a form of arrogance which admits of no arguments to the contrary, because it is based on an emotional feeling and not on objective truth. The Encyclical is dealing with generic Modernism where it talks about pride as the basis of Modernist thinking (Pascendi 3, see par. 2 above), while the specific form of Modernism singled out in the Encyclical applies only to Catholics and has to do with a false theory regarding the origin of religion. The Modernist of Pascendi is wedded to a belief in the ongoing evolution of the Catholic Church and of all of her dogmas. The Modernist of Pascendi claims to know that the Jesus of history lies hidden behind the Gospel facade of the Christ of faith and was originally just a man like other men, and, as a "modern" believer, he enjoys, at least subconsciously, the thought that he knows more now than the real Jesus of history ever did in his day. The Modernist of Pascendi sees himself as a reformer of an evolving Church, as a special witness of the feeling called faith, as a harmonizer of faith with modern physical and historical science, as a critic of Scholastic philosophy and theology, and as a corrector of the theological tradition of the Fathers of the Church.

http://www.rtforum.org/lt/lt110.html

 

All I know folks is that I saw Him (Jesus). And I fell to my face beneath His supreme majesty, and I realized I was nothing, and not even a breath was mine to have unless He willed it, and we as a people know NOTHING, even with all we think we know, all our collective knowledge is just a drop in the ocean, and therein we should be humble in any knowledge He allows us, and just so grateful that our creator loves us, and gives us a part in His glorious life. Any person that thinks or even speculates that they know more about spiritual things than the Catholic Church is a fool, for even the most intelligent of modern men barely know anything about the universe, and earth, and life, much less about things they have no experience of.

 

The "Enlightenment" was far from being enlightened. In reality it has mainly brought darkness to the world.