You singled out the quote that got my attention right away and why I posted that expert, I had the same thought as you.
While 'fools might seldom differ', it doesn't negate that 'great minds think alike'! I'd recommend Birch's book. It's excellent on both the prophesies and the theology of the whole thing. Totally orthodox, too.
AND I should have stated that some of the prophecies on that link are unapproved and probably others not approved, so beware. Dare I ask the million dollar question, I guess I dare and it has been debated here before, when will this happen before or after the IofC? It all depends on if this is part of the chastisement or part of the tribulation. IDK. Could it be the IofC which makes the non-believer/terrorists get even more agitated that they target the world's greatest symbol of Christianity.
You misunderstand. In the timing of End Time events, G_D uses the Hebrew calendar, as He has in all events related to Israel in history. For example, "Tisha B'Av" means the 9th of Av, which is a summer month. Catastrophic events have occurred to Israel on the 9th of Av throughout history. For example, both the First Temple and the Second Temples fell on the 9th of Av. To go into more detail: Rosh HaShanah is the Festival of Trumpets (which is why we blow the shofar). Trumpets are blown because this is the start of the year, the time in the Hebrew calendar when the reigns of kings are marked, i.e., "... in the fourth year of Solomon’s reign over Israel, ... he began to build the house of the LORD." (1 Kings 6:1) This is year 5777 in the Hebrew calendar. "5" represents a hand, "777" represents G_D, so this year can represent the Hand of G_D. Chastisements will begin from now, not beginning on Jan 1. ALSO... next year, on 3 Tishrei (2 days after Rosh HaShanah), Jupiter (the King planet) will leave Virgo (be born of a virgin) and Virgo will rise with the Sun (Rev. 12) 15 Tishrei 5777 -- 17 Oct 2016: Sukkot (Feast of Tents or Feast of Booths AKA Feast of Tabernacles) The line of Scripture that reads "The Word was made Flesh and dwelt among us" is more accurately translated as "... and tabernacled among us." I once read an article (can't find the link now) which showed, by counting the days, that there was a very good chance that Jesus was born on Sukkot. Sukkot lasts 7 days. On the 8th day after Sukkot (23 Tishrei 5777 -- 25 Oct 2016) is the Festival of Simchat Torah, or Joy of Torah. This festival marks the beginning and the end of the cycle of Torah readings for the year. If Jesus was in fact, born on Sukkot, 8 days later is when he would have been circumcised into the Law, or Torah. I should note that next year, 23 Tishrei falls on the 100th anniversary of the Miracle of the Sun at Fatima. One last Jewish festival that may be important: 17 Nisan 5777 -- 13 Apr 2017. 17 Nisan is the Feast of First Fruits; and is also the day that Jesus rose (I Corinthians. 15:20-23) In 2017, this day is Holy Thursday, as well as the feast day of a little-known martyr of the Eucharist (St. Hemenegildo). Does that strike a note with anyone in the Garabandal group?
Muzhik, How do you know all of this? My Jewish friends didn't even know what year it was on the Hebrew calendar. Padraig is correct also in saying that most Catholics don't know their feast days. Thank you for explaining the relevance of these dates to the End Time events. I will continue to reference this because I can't possibly remember it all. I read a little of this on two websites but you definitely have given further insight.
I use the Hebcal web site (http://www.hebcal.com/converter/). Note that the date converter does not work with dates BCE, due to limits in the programming languages in handling dates before year 0. I started about 8 years ago noting significant dates in Jewish history and Jewish feast days, and running them through this converter as the years went by. Frankly, I stopped after 2017 because I don't know what's going to happen after then.
On this website he didn't explain why he chose the 9th of Av for a war with Russia. http://aronbengilad.blogspot.com/2012/08/garabandal-miracle-april-13-2017.html And here they discuss 4/13/17 as the feast of the first fruits. https://polination.wordpress.com/2013/06/26/the-miracle-at-garabandal/ Thanks again. PS - I also can't figure out why on the aronbengilad sight he mentions Prince Harry (some people have him as the AC).
Well either that Prophecy is wrong or Garabandal is wrong. This is without a doubt a WWIII, while they said at G there would be no WW3. So one of them is not true.
I have heard the reasons for it not being referred to as a WWIII but if you read through those prophecies sounds like a WWIII to me also.
Since 9th of Av is traditionally a time of trial and travail for the Jewish people, I imagine he believes the War of Gog and Magog will break out at that time. As for Prince Harry, well, Aaron Ben-Gilad apparently believes in something called "British Israelism" (aka Anglo-Israelism). You can Google it for more information. In short, it's crypto-Archeology. It teaches that the 10 Lost Tribes of Israel moved north and settled in the lands of northern Europe, including England. In short, the British Royal Family can trace their roots (purportedly) to King David. You might think of it as the "Dan Brown School of History". It's been an interesting group of people until now. Since in their view, the Bible teaches the revival of the Davidic Monarchy. If they can get enough people believing this theory, then if (for example) Prince Harry is revealed to be the Messiah, then you have a restored Davidic Monarchy ready-made. My apologies to the loyal subjects of Her Royal Highness the Queen, may G_D save and preserve her. She is a class act, and speaking as an American, I might be convinced to follow her. (Is she better than either of our main choices this election? Do you really need to ask?) Her son and presumed (designated?) heir to the crown HRH Prince Charles is most certainly NOT a class act. I do not see how he, with his articles and speeches on "Gaia", etc., can in all honesty take the Coronation Oath where he will swear to uphold the protestant faith, etc. Of course, we live in an age where promises and oaths are all symbolic -- they don't really MEAN anything. Why did "Palace of Westminster repairs" and "Guy Fawkes Revenge" suddenly pop into my head? Hey, stranger things have happened. Pope John XXI died when a poorly constructed roof at the new addition to his palace collapsed on him while he was sleeping.
You forget: according to Scripture, we have two wars in the Middle East involving Israel that we have to go through: the War of Psalm 83 and the War of Gog and Magog. Some people say that they are the same war, but no, Scripture has different participants for each. With Psalm 83, it's every country surrounding Israel, with the exception of Egypt, all supported by Iran. With Gog and Magog, things are a little murkier, since it depends on accurate placement of these very ancient nation names. Of critical importance is if "Scythia" refers to Russia or not. Traditionally, it has, and in fact Russia itself claims that Scythians are the "root peoples" of the Russians. Psalm 83 is simply an attempt to wipe Israel off the map. Gog Magog is a little more intense, with the intent of the participants to be claiming the land and wealth of Israel for themselves. I'll have to look up the participants of Gog Magog, but IIRC it includes Turkey, Russia Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, possibly Germany -- IOW any and all of Israel's most recent enemies. It ends when there is an earthquake that shakes the entire world, and then G_D sends fire from heaven to destroy the armies and nations attacking Israel. Depending on the translation, either all of the armies or 7/8ths of the armies are destroyed. I believe that these wars have to take place before any worldwide war occurs.
I needed a few minutes to come up with the most reasonable explanation. I think that this "war" will occur after the Warning and the Miracle, therefore it makes total sense what Our Lady told the Garabandal seers that there is no WWIII because WWIII is part of the conditional chastisement. There have been hostilities in Europe already as we have seen. This fits with the predictions given, so we'll see.
I think it is possible that the Psalm 83 war has occurred already. Someone on MOG helped me to see that the 7 day war was this war.
" It ends when there is an earthquake that shakes the entire world, and then G_D sends fire from heaven to destroy the armies and nations attacking Israel. " I think that this further proves my point that the Gog-Magog is part of the chastisement. It is possibly the small one which begins it, " A great war will come. A small one begins it, and a big one comes across the water and makes an end to it." Have you given any thought to the war of Psalm 83 being the 7 day war? TY.
Just so we're clear: it's the 6-Day War. It OFFICIALLY started on June 5, 1967 (more on that later); by June 10 the Israelis had captured massive amounts of territory and were prepared to march on the capitols of Egypt, Jordan, and Syria -- the three belligerents. Under heavy pressure from the US, Israel accepted a cease-fire on June 10. When this subject comes up, I always try to correct some myths that have grown up around the war. Specifically, many people say the war started with a sneak attack by Israel on June 5. In fact, the war started two weeks earlier, when the Egyptians evicted the UN armed forces from their post at the tip of the Sinai Peninsula, overlooking the Gulf of Aqaba. After confirming that the UN would do nothing to retaliate, Egypt then declared a naval blockade of all marine traffic to and from Israel. This did two things: 1) it p*ssed off the Shah of Iran, who was making a pretty penny selling oil to Israel, which was quietly shipped to Israel through the Gulf of Aqaba, and 2) it unofficially started a war. A naval blockade of one country's ports by another is a de facto act of war. This set off a two-week period of diplomatic maneuvering by the US and the UN trying to get Egypt to stop the blockade, with no success. During this time, Egyptian and Syrian forces started lining up on the borders. Jordan at this time was not planning on being a part of this war. It was clear that they were planning on invading on the 6th. On June 4, something happened in the UN which made Israel's actions much easier: both Syria and Egypt made speeches in the UN denouncing Israel and reminding people that their two countries only had armistices with Israel, not peace treaties, i.e., the wars of 1948-49 had never officially ended. In retrospect, it's clear that they were setting the stage for justifying their forthcoming invasions. Sauce for the goose, though. If the wars had never ended, there was no reason Israel could not strike first, which they did on June 5. At 7:14AM, Israeli jets took off; within 2 hours they had destroyed over 300 Egyptian jets, all on the ground being fueled up while the flight crews were having breakfast. So, yes, it was a sneak attack, but it was taken only after Egypt told the world that a state of war still existed with Israel. Second, it simply CANNOT be the War of Psalm 83, for the simple reason that with all the nations listed in that psalm as participating in the war, the only one of Israel's traditional enemies NOT listed is Egypt. Egypt is not a participant in the War of Psalm 83. Since Egypt was one of the participants in the 6-Day War, this war CANNOT be the War of Psalm 83. Third, on 07 Jun 1967 (28 Iyyar 5727) IDF forces gained control of both sides of Jerusalem. For the first time since 1948 Jerusalem was unified again, and for the first time in over 2,000 years THE TIME OF THE GENTILES WAS ENDED. IOW, Jerusalem was under control of the Jews, not the Gentiles. You can search Google for the significance of that phrase and how the date is significant prophetically. Hope this helps.
I called it the 7 Day War twice, oh geez. Thank you again. So I definitely see the 2 wars mentioned in Revelation one prior to the era of peace and the one after, the later of the 2 I was originally referring to as the War of Gog-Magog because if you look at scripture that makes complete sense. So the one before the era of peace is the Battle of Psalm 83. When the Battle of Psalm 83 occurs this is when the Time of Gentiles is over, prior to the era of peace. But the second coming is actually after the War of Gog-Magog, correct?
Christians are trying their luck but they aren't as well organised. Maybe not so many of them arrive in Europe because they don't have enough money to pay the traffickers. Migrants from sub-Saharan Africa have to pay traffickers on every stage of the journey. I expect that a lot of them seek refuge in neighbouring African countries. Weren't there reports of a rise in anti-immigrant sentiment in South Africa? Many are exploited, abused and murdered along the way, some murdered to have their organs harvested. Women are sold into sex slavery. Muslims seem to be able to pay the traffickers, perhaps because it's a shorter journey from North Africa and the Middle East or perhaps because they aren't really all that poor and desperate or maybe more of them have relatives and friends already in Europe who can fund the journey. Maybe we will never know the whole truth about who is really behind the push and pull factors but my heart goes out to the real victims. I think that there would be more sympathy for them if the news coverage hadn't been so slanted. The contrast between what we were seeing and what the reporters were saying was so stark that it became impossible to believe what they were telling us. There's also the niggling suspicion that importing huge numbers of people would hasten a federal Europe which requires at the very least the undermining of national identity with loyalty to a United States of Europe taking precedence over ethnicity, background and culture - everything that makes a nation State. Brexit has put a spoke in that wheel so the powers that be might have to go back to the drawing board. The posts from Muzhik and others about the Old Testament prophecies are very interesting.
After a couple of private conversations asking about my list of Jewish holidays, I've edited down my list and am posting it here: Zechariah 1:7-17 ("O LORD of hosts, how long will you be without mercy...") . 24 Sh'vat 5776 -- 03 Feb 2016 ->. 24 Sh'vat 5777 -- 20 Feb 2017 . 24 Sh'vat 5778 -- 09 Feb 2018 Yom HaShoah (Holocaust Memorial Day) . 27 Nisan 5776 -- 05 May 2016 ->. 27 Nisan 5777 -- 23 Apr 2017 Israel Independence Day . 5 Iyyar 5776 -- 13 May 2016 ->. 5 Iyyar 5777 -- 01 May 2017 Start of 6-Day War . 26 Iyyar 5727 -- 05 Jun 1967 . 26 Iyyar 5776 -- 03 Jun 2016 ->. 26 Iyyar 5777 -- 22 May 2017 (Note: Adolf Eichmann was hanged on 26 Iyyar 5 years before the start of the war) UN Resolution establishing Israel (NB: 1 Macc 1:54 15 Kislev is date "...the king erected the desolating abomination upon the altar of burnt offerings, and in the surrounding cities of Judah they built pagan altars.") . 17 Kislev 5708 -- 29 Nov 1947 (NOTE: the vote happened on 29 Nov. 1947; however, since it was after sundown in both New York and Jerusalem, it occurred on 17 Kislev in the Hebrew Calendar.) . 17 Kislev 5776 -- 28/29 Nov 2015 ->. 17 Kislev 5777 -- 16/17 Dec 2016 . 17 Kislev 5778 -- 04/05 Dec 2017 Beginning and End of Jubilee Year of Mercy . 26 Kislev 5776 -- 08 Dec 2015 . 19 Cheshvan 5777 -- 20 Nov 2016 Sign of the Woman Clothed With The Sun . 19 Cheshvan 5777 -- 20 Nov 2016 -- Jupiter enters Virgo . 3 Tishrei 5778 -- 23 Sep 2017 -- Jupiter leaves Virgo, Virgo rises with Sun (Rev 12) Purim . 14 Adar II 5776 -- 24 Mar 2016 ->. 14 Adar I 5777 -- 12 Mar 2017 . 14 Adar II 5778 -- 01 Mar 2018 Anniversary of Exodus (Beginning of calendar year) . 29 Adar II/01 Nisan 5776 -- 07/08 Apr 2016 ->. 29 Adar I/01 Nisan 5777 -- 27/28 Mar 2017 . 29 Adar I/01 Nisan 5778 -- 16/17 Mar 2018 Passover . 15 Nisan 5776 -- 23 Apr 2016 ->. 15 Nisan 5777 -- 11 Apr 2017 . 15 Nisan 5778 -- 31 Mar 2018 Feast of First Fruits (Resurrection) . 17 Nisan 5776 -- 25 Apr 2016 ->. 17 Nisan 5777 -- 13 Apr 2017(feast day of St. Hemenegildo, martyr of the Eucharist) (Also Holy Thursday) . 17 Nisan 5778 -- 02 Apr 2018 (Easter Sunday 16 April 2017) Shavu'ot (Pentacost) -- The Giving of the Torah . 6 Sivan 5776 -- 12 Jun 2016 ->. 6 Sivan 5777 -- 31 May 2017 . 6 Sivan 5778 -- 20 May 2018 17 Tamuz (Beginning of The 3 Weeks -- 3 weeks between when the walls of Jerusalem were breached and the walls of the Temple were breeched) . 17 Tammuz 5776 -- 23 Jul 2016 ->. 17 Tammuz 5777 -- 11 Jul 2017 . 17 Tammuz 5778 -- 30 Jun 2018 Tisha B'Av . 9 Av 5776 -- 13 Aug 2016 ->. 9 Av 5777 -- 01 Aug 2017 . 9 Av 5778 -- 21 Jul 2018 Rosh HaShanah (Feast of Trumpets) (New Year) ->. 1 Tishrei 5777 -- 03 Oct 2016 . 1 Tishrei 5778 -- 21 Sep 2017 . 1 Tishrei 5779 -- 10 Sep 2018 Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement) ->. 10 Tishrei 5777 -- 12 Oct 2016 . 10 Tishrei 5778 -- 30 Sep 2017 . 10 Tishrei 5779 -- 19 Sep 2018 Sukkot (Feast of Tents or Feast of Booths) ->. 15 Tishrei 5777 -- 17 Oct 2016 . 15 Tishrei 5778 -- 05 Oct 2017 . 15 Tishrei 5779 -- 24 Sep 2018 Simchat Torah ("Joy of Torah" End/Beginning of Torah Cycle of Readings) . 23 Tishrei 5776 -- 05 Oct 2015 ->. 23 Tishrei 5777 -- 25 Oct 2016 . 23 Tishrei 5778 -- 13 Oct 2017 (100th Anniversary of Fatima) . 23 Tishrei 5779 -- 02 Oct 2018 Chanukah begins (Feast of Lights) ->. 25 Kislev 5777 -- 25 Dec 2016 . 25 Kislev 5778 -- 13 Dec 2017 (100th anniversary of liberation of Jerusalem during WW1, 10 Dec 1917) . 25 Kislev 5779 -- 03 Dec 2018
