Signs

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by themilitantcatholic, Sep 3, 2015.

  1. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    The US was not the first country to legalize abortion. We finally got it reversed and the pendulum is starting to swing. What country is innocent of perversion?
    I’m questioning why he wants our country to fall and a new world order to take over. That will be total communism in the world.
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    To lay the charge of warmongering against NATO does not necessarily make one a communist. This organisation was set up supposedly to defend Western Europe against a possible attack from the Soviet Union. Since the fall of the USSR, this organisation has moved Eastwards, and has pursued a proxy war against Russia, since the Obama/Nuland-inspired coup against the legitimate Ukrainian government in 2014.

    To me, communism is now represented by a pervo-Marxist West and its attempt to spread its demonic doctrines of abortion, homosexuality, transexuality and paedophilia around the world. If this is what Michael_Pio is opposing, I'm in full agreement with him.

    Old-style communism killed many bodies, but wasn't as successful at destroying souls. This newer form of communism is far more adept at attacking souls.[/QUOTE]
     
  2. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    Michael_Pio said: ↑
    My prayers are with you and all the Palestinian people. I hope the aggression of Israel and NATO in the Middle East and Ukraine will end with the downfall of the Western governments and the beginning of a new, multilateral, world order.
    To lay the charge of warmongering against NATO does not necessarily make one a communist. This organisation was set up supposedly to defend Western Europe against a possible attack from the Soviet Union. Since the fall of the USSR, this organisation has moved Eastwards, and has pursued a proxy war against Russia, since the Obama/Nuland-inspired coup against the legitimate Ukrainian government in 2014.

    To me, communism is now represented by a pervo-Marxist West and its attempt to spread its demonic doctrines of abortion, homosexuality, transexuality and paedophilia around the world. If this is what Michael_Pio is opposing, I'm in full agreement with him.

    Old-style communism killed many bodies, but wasn't as successful at destroying souls. This newer form of communism is far more adept at attacking souls.[/QUOTE]
     
  3. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    I don’t think we want a new world order. No way.
     
  4. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    The rejectors of Christ also reject His teaching that one "love your enemies". I read recently of a supposedly moderate rabbi that reluctantly admitted in an article in First Things magazine, that to Jews it is a virtue in certain circumstances to hate. Combined with the delusion that they still, after two millenia from the time they rejected the Divine Plan, remain the "Chosen People", it makes them extremely aggressive and dangerous. Sadly, this is a position that has in recent decades been supported by many in the Catholic Church, not to mention the many non-Jewish Zionists of the West. There are now extreme Messianic Zionists running the show in Israel who are utterly convinced, like previous Jewish, false messianic revolutions, of final victory and they plan to conquer the entire region from the Mediterranean to the Euphrates. There are plausible cases being made that the Ukraine and the Crimea were targetted as well, but that now seems to have bitten the dust.

    These people hate Jesus Christ far more than the Mohammedans do. God help all the poor Christians in this region.
     
  5. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    It was George Bush Snr who first used the term. All these people pushing mass immigration, perverted lifestyles and 'climate change' are the ones looking for a new globalised world order. It is the governments of the West, particularly of the United States (unless ruled by Trump, whom they are desperate to stop), United Kingdom, France and Germany, along with the European Union who feature most prominently in implementing this infernal agenda. If a 'new world order', which does not include this other 'new world order', is perhaps a more multipolar world, without any nation possessing hegemony, we might be better off.
     
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  6. LMF

    LMF Archangels

    Maybe all we really need is a restoration of God's good order. Imho, that restoration will take place, one way or another.....
     
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  7. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Agree
     
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  8. orangina

    orangina Archangels

    Does it seem to you that this is a summary of the last 2000 years?
    You know when you watch the whole game for 90 minutes and then later a 3 minute recap if you didn't get to watch till the end...

    We have Israel and the Middle East as the center of events practically since the Crusades, earlier of course Jesus and the first apostles.

    We have a war in Ukraine, a conflict between the West and Russia, which practically characterized the entire 20th century.

    We have the awakening of neo-Marxist movements in other forms, racial conflicts as well as religious ones which is again what we have been seeing for the last few centuries...

    The decadence of society, which takes us back to the Middle Ages, as well as the fall of the Roman Empire...
    Although we have never had more in terms of technology, we are returning to a kind of feudalism where the rich accumulate wealth, and ordinary citizens find it harder and harder to get apartments, houses, pay bills and medical treatment...

    Migrations that were deliberately planned this time, but remind of Barbarion invasion of the former cradle of civilization, Rome and Greece...

    The Jews, as those who were supposed to spread the good news about Christ, the message of hope, faith and love, are those who want world domination, where instead of serving others they want to rule. They are the leaders of revolutions, communism, the lgbt movement, communism and the persecution of Christ.

    The Church and the Vatican, which should be the seat of consolation, Christ and the strength of morality, have also become a place of conflict between the righteous and those who are not, of confusing messages and lukewarm attitudes.

    In some strange way, it is as if the entire human history is being summed up in the present day. Only in a slightly different and distorted way.
    I think that there has never been a greater confusion among people between good and evil at the world level. Apostasy from faith and hedonism, but on the other hand there is a great fear of the future. It's as if everyone is waiting and expecting something big to happen.
     
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  9. Katfalls

    Katfalls Powers

    Perhaps you are focusing too much on the realms of earth and not enough on the kingdom of God. Today's readings talked about this. I always thought that after Jesus came and welcomed the gentiles into the New Jerusalem that all of us became The Chosen People. We have been chosen to join him in Heaven. It is not only the Jew, in fact Jesus had gentile blood in his DNA. Jesus will take care of his flock and the wheat is being separated from the chaff. I am no longer getting into the heated politics on FB, it is of no use. People have already decided which road they want to take, and now, because of social media it is in our face like never before. But, back to today's reading, they are so profound.
    He sells everything he owns and buys the field
    Jesus said to the crowds: ‘The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field which someone has found; he hides it again, goes off happy, sells everything he owns and buys the field.
    ‘Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a merchant looking for fine pearls; when he finds one of great value he goes and sells everything he owns and buys it.’
     
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  10. PurpleFlower

    PurpleFlower Powers

    To be fair to Michael Pio, I *think* he wasn't saying the typical new world order the elites are wanting: the one world government. He used the word "multilateral." So I think he meant he wants the current order of things where the corrupt West is trying to run the whole world, to change into a different world situation where each country regains its character and autonomy.

    But I could be totally wrong. I'm sure he'll come explain soon.

    I certainly don't want my country to fall, as in to someone else's hands. I really want it to come to its senses, humble itself, and reform back into the strong Christian country it once tried to be.
     
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  11. Philothea

    Philothea Angels

    I don't think you are being fair to feudalism, it wasn't so bad as it was made out to be. Each person had their place in society but to help and serve the others. Knights and lords existed and it's true, they would hang out and have most work done for them but they were the ones who went into battle, they put their lives on the line while peasants stayed home working the land as though nothing changed. Yes, over time it became corrupted, what doesn't? Until Christ comes again it is the battle waged over and over again...

    Secondly we should be specific when talking about the Jews. We must pray for the conversion of all Jews, they are after all as you pointed out our elder brothers in Faith and carrying forth the message of God but their religion has been abolished and they must convert to Catholicism.
    If we want to talk about the evil group of elite running the world under the false title of "jewish" we should call them out by their name: they are Frankists/ Zionists and they worship Satan. Jacob Frank began the movement and it has infiltrated everywhere. It is responsible for the revolutions, the ideologies and persecutions against the Church.
    And they have successfully infiltrated the Church but we were told before hand by our Lady! What did Our Lord say to Peter as he walked out on the waters and began to sink because he felt the force of the winds? "Oh ye of little faith!" We must all ask for the increase of Faith in this tempest, the winds are strong are frightening but we must walk confidently forward.

    I obviously don't know exactly what Michael Pio meant but as Purple flower said perhpas he was referring to the reign of peace, the reign under the Immaculate Heart of Mary, a new world Order where all the evils of this last century will be abolished for a short time.

    It must be no coincidence that Agenda 2030 is all we hear of today when really we should be preparing for the commemoration of the crucifixion of Christ. The Devil knows his time is nearing its end and in this time of his frenzy as all his works are nearing their fruition it makes sense we see only division, chaos, ugliness, a small foreshadowing of the terrors of Hell. I find it interesting to note man cannot live longer than 2000 years without some divine intervention and here we are, about 2000 years after the crucifixion so let us gather at the foot of the cross, whether in prayer, or better yet, mass and watch, pray and endure. As St. Bruno said, " while the world changes the cross stands firm."
     
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  12. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    This post really, as they say, knocks it out of the park.

    I'm often very slow and the upcoming bi-millenium of the central event of history, Our Lord's Crucifixion, hadn't registered in my consciousness. Lots of talk going on about Apocalypse and the End of the World, but nothing or next to nothing about This.

    Your point about our being well due a Divine Intervention fills me with great Hope, this morning. We so need it. What we knew as Christendom, a product of the Middle Ages which you so rightly praise, has gone so demonically rotten (and in such a short time-the era of Reagan and JPII seeems only like yesterday-although the rot has been eating away for centuries, from the Fall, truly) that it is a near-certainty that only a direct and drastic Act of God can rescue us.

    May the Lord God have Mercy on us all.
     
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  13. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    I have woken up this morning to find some incredible posts. So many balls are being knocked out of the park that there's going to be a shortage.

    Reminds me of my days as a young lad playing hurling when we seemed to spend more time looking for the ball than actually hitting it.

    God bless all here.
     
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  14. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    You express clearly and concisely what I was trying, but failing to.
     
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    DeGaulle Powers

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  16. Michael_Pio

    Michael_Pio Archangels

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    Oh my goodness, no. I am not a communist.
     
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  17. Michael_Pio

    Michael_Pio Archangels

    Precisely. I couldn't have put it more aptly. Thank you!

    I have lived in communism, in East Germany. I don't want this back, I prefer freedom.
    But having said that, we had more freedom in East Germany than New Zealand had under Ardern. The West is becoming rapidly communist nowadays. This is also true for the U.S.

    Regarding wars in recent years, NATO has been involved in many. This includes the war in Ukraine. One has to look back to 2014 (the coup) and to the breach of the Minsk agreement. This is essentially a war of NATO against Russia. I am not happy with the escalation by the West that is bringing us close to WWIII.
     
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  18. Michael_Pio

    Michael_Pio Archangels

    Dear Kathy,

    You are misunderstanding me. I do not want the U.S. to fall. I have lived there for one year and I love America. It is one of the most Christian countries in the world, culturally.

    Having said that, the governments of the West are evil nowadays. This is a bit different from the people. Our Western governments do not have our best interests in mind. They are establishing a world order that is essentially satanic. They are not on our side. This current satanic world order needs to fall, not the people in the Western countries who are being oppressed by it.

    God bless!
     
  19. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    They attempted to murder Donald Trump, because he opposes the forces in the United States (the Democratic Party, the bureaucratic administration, the CIA, the FBI, the educational and media establishments-the cultural Marxists have succeeded in their 'long march through the institutions') who are in full lock-step with this newer, more virulent form of communism. The old communism had to be enforced at gun-point; the newer kind has cultivated so many useful idiots that majorities of the people are voting for it in most Western countries. Things have turned out exactly as the great Italian philosopher, Augusto del Noce predicted over half a century ago-that centrist and social democratic politics would produce a more virulent form of communism than even the old kind. The people are not as easily manipulated in dictatorships. The Greeks were right in realising that the democracy they invented was the worst possible form of government and quickly abandoned it.
     
  20. AED

    AED Powers

    Marvelous post. Ringing with truth. Thank you.
     

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