Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by themilitantcatholic, Sep 3, 2015.

  1. Dolours

    Dolours Powers

    I agree. The Italian health care system is not significantly different this year than it was last year or the year before, yet the sheer number of extra patients this year has brought the system to the brink of collapse. According to one report I read or watched, not all elderly patients who die are tested for the virus so it would be inaccurate to say that every person who dies with the virus is counted among those whose death was caused by the virus.

    It seems strange, too, that he connects China's introduction of face recognition surveillance with the virus. I think that had already been introduced before the Wuhan epidemic.
  2. Byron

    Byron Powers

    People stay strong. Watching Tucker Carlson on Fox News tonight was an education. China even held back on sending us respirators. We don’t even make our own Vitamin C anymore. The Chloroquine medication is the key. And the Chinese have known this knowledge from day one. Their cover up was criminal.
  3. Byron

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  4. Byron

    Byron Powers

    Let’s get everyone tested!!!! What is taking so long???? We can make anything in 2 seconds in this country. We must have bases where we can start manufacturing our own test kits!
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  5. KyleHancock

    KyleHancock Angels

    I'm already seeing articles across the country of US hospitals running out of supplies.

    Doctors Say Shortage of Protective Gear Is Dire During Coronavirus Pandemic
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  6. djmoforegon

    djmoforegon Powers

    I do not believe that this is anything that I would trust. Heaven help us.

    Report: Amazon and Gates Foundation aim to team up with scientists on home test kits for coronavirus (

    Amazon Care is offering assistance to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation for a plan to deliver coronavirus test kits to Seattle homes, CNBC reports.

    The plan as described hints at a grand convergence involving two major players on Seattle’s tech scene, plus the University of Washington and the Seattle Flu Study.

    Amazon Care is an on-demand healthcare clinic that’s open on a pilot basis to Seattle-area Amazon employees and their families. CNBC quoted unnamed sources as saying Amazon has offered to come up with a plan to deliver the test kits, which include nasal swabs to take samples, at no cost.

    In an email to GeekWire, an Amazon spokesperson said “we’re in discussions with leaders in public health about how we can help” – but didn’t provide further details.

    Amazon’s involvement builds on the Gates Foundation’s plan to leverage a program created by the Seattle Flu Study, a consortium of researchers that’s been tracking the spread of the coronavirus outbreak in the Seattle area for weeks.

    Coronavirus Live Updates: The latest COVID-19 developments in Seattle and the world of tech
    This week, regulators stopped the Seattle Flu Study from performing tests for coronavirus and sharing the results, due to the fact that the researchers didn’t have approval for clinical applications of their testing protocol. But the study’s principal investigator, UW geneticist Jay Shendure, said he and his colleagues saw a “path forward” to resuming their work.

    Although Shendure didn’t go into detail about that path, Trevor Bedford of Seattle’s Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center, said in a tweet that UW’s Virology Lab would be involved.

    Last week, the virology lab began conducting its own coronavirus tests, thanks to a go-ahead that the Food and Drug Administration issued under emergency guidelines. The lab’s managers say they’re performing more than 900 tests a day and could improve that pace to as many as 5,000 tests daily.

    That pace could mesh with the Gates Foundation’s objective to monitor and respond to the COVID-19 outbreak more closely. Last week, the foundation pledged $5 million to boost detection efforts in the Seattle area, in part by building upon the work of the Seattle Flu Study.

    Today, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee and other regional officials announced a sweeping campaign to control the spread of coronavirus, including school closures and strict limitations on public gatherings in the Seattle area. Epidemiologists say doing a better job of identifying people who have the virus will be key to taking more precisely targeted actions.

    We’ve reached out to the Gates Foundation, the Seattle Flu Study and UW Medicine, and will update this report with anything we hear back.

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  7. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    Hard to imagine anyone trusting the likes of Amazon or Gates with their medical information but I am sure there are some people who will be chomping at the bit to get their test kits. The same people I bet who throw family members out of their homes who are trying to help them. Fear really is a contagion.
    My BIL was offered a home test kit by Franciscan who I believe is also partnering with Gates. He politely declined. I can see some states trying to make testing mandatory if the overreach keeps up.
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  8. Byron

    Byron Powers

  9. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

  10. Tanker

    Tanker Archangels

    This is a difficult situation. The msm is absolutely rabid with pushing fear porn out there. Makes me wonder really.....what is going on outside the agenda.

    The virus is real. That is a fact. And it is bad in pockets of the world, another fact. It will get worse and then better. That's how the numbers run (the data) with illness. It is mathematical.

    Here in the US the Fed govt seems to be returning power to the states to deal with this. Fed level "recommends" and then states do or don't follow the recommendations. This seems like pre Civil- War the States are in charge handling of a situation. But we have a much larger population then our founders and early Americans have. But it does seem to be working in most areas.

    And then we have China. Late in telling anyone anything. They are complicit, imo, in regards to this whole thing. All the speculation aside, China is at fault and the communist regime cares little about anything except power and money. Very telling. Of course, this isn't new because we all know how completely horrid communism is.

    The world is almost completely reliant on China and it's "stuff". Heck, the US has given up manufacturing drugs, in some cases, medical equipment, etc. Why are we surprised that we have shortages and that China isn't "sharing"? The world needs to cut ties on their dependence with China. Period, the end!

    The world now has a situation where China is not shipping goods fast enough or at all and the virus is becoming out of control. Hospitals are becoming overwhelmed in the higher effected areas. I am reading the respirators are the thing that are a large problem with the sickest patients. And China isn't stepping up. They don't have to because they are at the top of the supply chain and communist governments historically are selfish and greedy, covetous and care little about populations, even their own.

    And then we have the Gates foundation. Who seems to be always in the news with their "save the planet" helpful hints for living programs. Except, there are dozens upon dozens of news articles of them partnering with questionable companies to produce vaccines and medicines to "help" people, especially in the developing countries. They have partnered themselves to many seedy characters (GAVI) to produce legislation and vaccines to under developed nations that have proven to harm....HPV deaths, untested vaccines, sterilization en mass through vaccines. Gates himself is not silent about this. He wants population control, anyway possible. He is nuts.

    So, NO, for me and my family for ANYTHING from or linked to the Gates Foundation. They are evil pure and simple.
    And Amazon is not a warm and fuzzy company either, imo.

    I may be alone on this in regards to the virus. While I think this is concerning and scary on one level, I also have to think about the unprecedented response to a virus that has less deaths under normal circumstances than the seasonal flu. The response is overkill and I have to wonder about that. The increase of cases is solely do to the Chinese govt and the supply chain breakdown. What else is going on?
  11. AED

    AED Powers

    I share your concerns. Many troubling questions.
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  12. Indy

    Indy Praying

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  13. AED

    AED Powers

  14. Indy

    Indy Praying

    Yes, I believe so.
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  15. non sum dignus

    non sum dignus Archangels

    No, actually not......

    I don't know why people are still looking for a natural, astronomical event.

    Conchita's words clearly state this will not be a natural phenomenon explained by science.
    When she says it will be like two stars colliding, she does not say it will look like two stars colliding. To me it is clear she is just illustrating that it won't hurt us physically but we will see it...Just like two far off stars colliding. What do we see? Our conscience, all the good and bad we have done.

    Read her statement...
    "No. To me, it's like two stars… that crash and make a lot of noise and a lot of light but they don't fall… It's something that's not going to hurt us but we're going to see it. In that moment, we're going to see our conscience."


    October, 1968

    Q. We have heard that some say the Warning may be a natural phenomenon but
    will be used by God to speak to mankind. Is this true?

    The Warning is something supernatural and will not be explained by science. It will be seen and felt.
    February, 1977
    Question: Would you repeat for us what you know about the Warning?
    Answer: … I am not able to say what it consists of but I am able to say what it will be like, more or less. It is a phenomenon which will be seen and felt in all the world and everywhere; I have always given as an example that of two stars that collide.This phenomenon will not cause physical damage, but it will horrify us because at that very moment we will see our souls and the harm we have done. It will be as though we were in agony but we will not die by its effects but perhaps we will die of fright or shock to see ourselves. …
    August, 1980
    Question: It (the Warning) is not going to hurt you?
    Answer: No. To me, it's like two stars… that crash and make a lot of noise and a lot of light but they don't fall… It's something that's not going to hurt us but we're going to see it. In that moment, we're going to see our conscience. You're going to see everything wrong that you're doing.
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  16. Muzhik

    Muzhik Powers

    Something to consider: If Pope Francis should die, and a quorum of cardinals cannot assemble WITHIN THE WALLS OF VATICAN CITY by the end of the 25th day after the death of the Pope, a valid conclave cannot be held. This is per the most recent Apostolic Constitution. I used to think that there would be some kind of civil unrest to keep a quorum from assembling; now it could be accomplished by difficulties in air travel, or cardinals being denied entry into Italy because they may be carriers of the Wuhan virus.

    If a quorum cannot be assembled, and a "conclave" is still held, any pope they elect would be a false pope (NOT an antipope) without the charism of infallibility. Otherwise, the Vatican Secretary of State would handle the day-to-day operations of the Vatican without being able to do things that are reserved to the Pope, such as naming bishops. This would be the case until a worldwide synod of bishops could be re-assembled to re-constitute the Papacy and the Church.

    This would not be the first time the Church would function for an extended period without a Pope. The last time was the 3-year period when the cardinals basically partied and quarreled among themselves until St. Gregory (soon to be POPE St. Gregory) locked them all in a church and cut a hole in the roof through which food was lowered, until they elected a new pope. (When they saw the hole being cut in the roof of the church, one cardinal was heard to remark, "They can't do that! It might let in the Holy Spirit!") It was the first "con clave" (under the key) and it ended with the cardinals deciding to give the job to this Gregory fellow.
  17. padraig

    padraig New Member

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  18. AED

    AED Powers

    Jason A! Haven't seen him in a long time.
    Jason A. Glad to find him again.
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    padraig New Member

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