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Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by themilitantcatholic, Sep 3, 2015.

  1. AED

    AED Powers

    Ya think??? SIGH.
     
  2. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    It's becoming increasingly easier to see how a Cardinal of the Church attended this and had nothing but platitudes to say about it all.
     
  3. Oh no.....can it get any worse???

    Cardinal Dolan Says Rihanna Borrowed One of His Miters for Met Ball: ‘She Was Very Gracious’

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    Wonder where Rihanna scored that bejeweled papal-looking hat for Monday night’s Met Ball celebrating the Costume Institute’s exhibit of Vatican fashion?

    Turns out the miter was a loaner — from Cardinal Timothy Dolan, the head of New York’s Roman Catholic diocese.

    “The news said she was wearing a tiara,” Dolan said Tuesday in an interview on SiriusXM’s The Catholic Channel, noting that it was in fact a miter of the sort worn by bishops and cardinals on formal liturgical occasions. “She gave it back to me this morning. … She was very gracious.”


    Dolan conceded that the miter was a good match for the pop star’s beaded white Margiela corset dress with matching jacket and clutch.


    “I was teasing my auxiliary bishops, who were teasing me about Rihanna and I said, ‘Hey, you guys should not complain because she’s volunteered to do some confirmations,'” Dolan joked. (We’re guessing that the pop star won’t actually be filling in for any of the diocese’s bishops to perform that sacrament.)

    Dolan admitted he was a “tad apprehensive” about attending the Met Ball — whose theme this year was based on a new exhibit of Vatican-loaned artwork and vestments called “Heavenly Bodies” — but ball host and Vogue editor Anna Wintour had assured him that organizers would rein in the out-there fashion choices of previous years.

    “There were some aspects that looked like kind of a masquerade party, a Halloween party,” he conceded. “I didn’t really see anything sacrilegious, I may have seen some things in poor taste, but I didn’t detect anybody out to offend the church.”

    He added, “A number of people came up and spoke about their Catholic upbringing and things they remembered and it was a powerful evening.”

    Dolan was the first to admit that he’s no fashion expert. “You think I’d look like this if I was interested in fashion? You think I wouldn’t lose 80 pounds? You’re talking about a JCPenney’s Big & Tall man — that’s where get my fashion, OK?” he said.

    “You know I wasn’t in there for the fashion, the glitter.”

    https://www.thewrap.com/rihanna-met-ball-cardinal-timothy-dolan-borrowed-miter-pope-hat/

    Keep picturing the Cure of Ars, patron saint of priests, and can only imagine....no, I know, what he would think of this!
     
  4. The headline performance featured a cameo from pop-legend Madonna who wore a brown Franciscan habit for her appearance

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    As the performance continued her disciples stripped her of the outer cloak to reveal a racy white dress hidden underneath

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    The singer performed her hit song 'Like a Virgin' for cheering crowds as she well and truly stuck to the theme of the evening

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    Cardinal Timothy Dolan, the Archbishop of New York, (third from left) was in attendance at the star studded event and advocated the use of the Catholic theme in a statement

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    As well as speaking to the press himself at the event - Cardinal Dolan posted the following tweet justifying the use of the Catholic theme



    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...blasphemous-Catholic-theme.html#ixzz5Ey0KJOjJ
     
  5. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    Can't you see where this is leading? All those celebs at Sunday Mass, some of them giving out Communion, and all the fans flocking to see them in the flesh. And think of what the Church can do with the cheques in the collection baskets. The Knights of Malta can buy enough condoms and contraceptive pills to wipe out a whole generation of Africans. It's all good in the poor Church for the poor. Don't you dare compare the modest understated event with Caesar's Rome. You promethian, gnostic, rigid, truth adoring pharishee. Tut, tut.

    Is it true that the Sistine Chapel choir provided the musical entertainment? Just found the answer to that question. They were there: https://www.vogue.com/article/sistine-chapel-choir-performance-met-gala

    Considering the reputation of that Museum, the Cardinal should have started with an exorcism before letting children inside the door. Then again, with what we're hearing from the Vatican, maybe an exorcism by Cardinal Dolan would have been too little, too late.
     
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  6. AED

    AED Powers

    You can’t make this stuff up! (As we say around here). Cardinal Dolan disappoints—again. The whole rotten affair reeks of blasphemy and insult and deliberate in your face sacrilege. Can you imagine if they had mocked Mohammad?
     
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  7. “I was teasing my auxiliary bishops, who were teasing me about Rihanna and I said, ‘Hey, you guys should not complain because she’s volunteered to do some confirmations,'” Dolan joked.

    The "great divorce" has taken place and now is mainstream w/o shame.

    “I didn’t really see anything sacrilegious, I may have seen some things in poor taste, but I didn’t detect anybody out to offend the church.”


    Maybe that was because they were so happy to be let loose to display what they really think....and hey if someone seems happy and is smiling all the time well, they just couldn't be "offensive".

    He added, “A number of people came up and spoke about their Catholic upbringing and things they remembered and it was a powerful evening.”

    Wow....what were they drinking or smoking there? Not any such memories in my bank!
     
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  8. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    You need to get some of that "adult spirituality" that Cardinal Cupich is promoting. I'm wondering whether Cardinal Dolan offered to buy back Katy Perry's soul from the devil. Can the poor Church afford it?
     
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  9. Portion of the latest but not as yet translated message to Luz de Maria....a rather awkward google translation...fitting for this gross material display w/ applause by a Cardinal Archbishop representing his Mother?:

    So many Herods that overflow the Earth!
    So many Pilates who give My Son away!
    So many whitewashed tombs, which wish to confuse the People of My Son!
    So many who worship the metal god!
    (golden calves?)
     
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  10. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    These men need our prayers. I have begun praying a decade of the rosary for each one who I read about not protecting the Traditions or teachings of the Faith. It was suggested recently by a Priest that I need to exercise Charity in this regard. God willing I will be doing all I am able.
     
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  11. Mac

    Mac "To Jesus, through Mary"

    An Abomination.
     
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  12. An analysis (equivocation?) of the C. Dolan/Gala event including descriptive remarks from B. Barron about C. Dolan's talent for "evangelizing"!!

    Dolan evangelizes culture at Met Gala, one stereotype at a time

    ...Evangelization of culture - an opportunity to offer a positive vision of what the Church is for, rather than what it is against - is one of the hallmarks of Dolan’s ministry says Bishop Robert Barron.

    Barron, who is auxiliary bishop of Los Angeles and founder of Word on Fire ministries, told Crux that “by sheer force of his personality, [Dolan] is one of the best evangelizers on the scene today.”

    “Just watch him walking up the main aisle of St. Patrick’s Cathedral in New York at the beginning of Mass and you’ll clearly see what ‘affirmative orthodoxy’ looks like: confident, joyful, and engaging,” said Barron.

    “As a careful student of American Church history, he grasps the subtle ways that the Church has entered into a dialogue - both creative and critical - with the institutions of the secular culture. This makes him a canny player on the scene today,” he added.

    https://cruxnow.com/vatican-at-the-...culture-at-met-gala-one-stereotype-at-a-time/

    I also remember within the article about the new movie, "The Devil and Father Amorth, that B. Barron commented:

    “People like Father Amorth may be able to do it,” he says cautiously. “I would never dare to do it.”

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    And from C. Dolan's own blog:

    Heavenly Bodies: Fashion and the Catholic Imagination

    I’d like to share with you my comments from the press conference this morning for the opening of the Metropolitan Museum of Art Costume Institute’s exhibition, Heavenly Bodies: Fashion and the Catholic Imagination.

    What’s the Church doing here?

    What is the Cardinal-Archbishop of New York doing here?

    Well, because the Church and “the Catholic imagination,” are all about truth, goodness, and beauty…

    That’s why we have great schools… to teach the truth;

    That’s why we love and serve the poor – to do good;

    That’s why we’re into art, poetry, music, liturgy, and, yes, even fashion… to thank God for beauty;

    I guess that’s why Steve and Christine Schwarzman, cherished friends so generous to our inner-city schools, Catholic Charities, and Saint Patrick’s Cathedral, and I, are here… because of the true, the good, the beautiful.

    In the “Catholic imagination,” the True, the Good, and the Beautiful have a name: Jesus Christ, who revealed Himself as “the Way, the Truth, and the Life.”

    In the “Catholic imagination,” the truth, goodness, and beauty of God is reflected all over… even in fashion. The world is shot through with His glory.

    Thank you to the Metropolitan Museum of Art’s Costume Institute for arranging this exhibition. Thanks, Dr. Weiss, Dr. Bolton, Ms. Wintour, and Steve and Christine, for your leadership.

    Thanks to the Vatican for its historic cooperation.

    I’m honored to be here.
     
  13. Speaking of evangelization....how does anyone square examples of such where one waits for the material/world's culture gone so astray to become comfortable and convinced that the evangelizer loves them "as they are", as the saying goes today, and is willing to cuddle up with them, adapting to even heathen types of displays against God's defined Will, and then think that somehow, when the Truth is actually presented, which the "evangelizer" would like you believe WILL happen sometime down the road and which opposes such behavior, pride, dress, the "evangelizer" won't be called one big hypocrite and coward, and lose even more than what he started with???

    Somehow the examples of "evangelizers" as recognized today even by the so called conservative clerics, appear no match for the truly converted examples as the best of all time...like St. Paul. He may have said that he had to reveal the Truth in pablum form to those unwilling or incapable of receiving it in its depths, but he let them know that and told them there was more awaiting them still to be understood. But still he told those who claimed to be with Christ that they then were to live, yes in this world as is obvious, but not to be "of" this world....to live now as if one is already in that higher dimension. No wonder there were jokes made by the Cardinal at this "gala" even against the Holy Spirit re: Confirmation, as seeming to be another burdensome event for the auxiliary bishops and even that someone of such mocking tribute might herself volunteer for duty. Did someone mention "clericalism"....?? Fr. Gobbi used to say that the evil one first goes for the ordoeuvres/the religious leaders, and then is able to devour the main course, the faithful.
     
  14. Immaculata

    Immaculata Principalities

    This is absolutely disgraceful. It reminds me of a bar I was in one night before I came back to the Catholic faith and as I looked around and seen everyone dressed like that and all the bar staff dressed as priests and nuns and thought to myself that this is not right. And I can assure you that they were not "celebrating the beauty of Catholic art". Cardinal Dolan is incredibly foolish at best or at worst very far from God to be thinking that this type of thing is okay. I seen on cardinal dolan's twitter page, there are a number of people letting him know what they think.

    Are we allowed to openly criticize and challenge priests etc or do we have to recognize that they were put in them clerical positions by God in his soverignty and should therefore be respected ? Like, is prayer the only thing we are required to do or should we be confronting the likes of Cardinal Dolan when things like this happen ?
     
  15. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    I believe that the following story should be read by everyone,

    Boy regains consciousness after doctors declare him ‘brain dead,’ prepare to remove his organs
    Matthew Cullinan Hoffman https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/b...r-doctors-declare-him-brain-dead-prepare-to-r

    May 8, 2018 (LifeSiteNews.com) – An Alabama child who suffered multiple skull fractures in an auto accident and was declared “brain dead” by doctors, regained consciousness only one day before the physicians planned to remove his organs, according to a report by Fox News in Mobile, Alabama.

    The boy, 13-year-old Trenton McKinley, was being pulled in a small utility trailer by a child’s dune buggy driven by his friend, who applied the brakes suddenly and caused the trailer to flip over and to land on top of McKinley’s head, fracturing his skull.

    McKinley “died” several times while doctors treated him, leaving him “dead” for a total of 15 minutes, according to the child’s mother, Jennifer Reindl, who added that doctors then informed her that her son’s case was hopeless, and that he could never recover. Medical personnel then proposed that his organs be donated to save the lives of five other children. Reindl implied in her statements to reporters that her acceptance of the organ donation plan was the only way to convince them to keep her son alive longer.

    “When he came back, they said he would never be normal again,” Reindl told local Fox station WALA-TV. “They told me the oxidation {oxygen deprivation} problems would be so bad to his brain, that he would be a vegetable if he even made it.”

    “A man from the UAB organ donation came and talked to us in the family conference room about donating five organs to UAB children's hospital that would save five other children,” Reindl told CBS News. “We said yes, that also insured that they would continue to keep Trenton alive to clean his organs for the donation," Reindl added.

    However, as doctors kept McKinley alive in preparation for his organs to be removed and given to others children, the boy began to regain consciousness. He gradually recovered, and appears to have the full use of his mental faculties, although he also suffers from seizures. Now, two months later, he is awaiting the reattachment of about half of his skull.

    McKinley says he remembers being in heaven. “I was in an open field walking straight,” he said to WALA-TV, adding, “There's no other explanation but God. There's no other way. Even doctors said it.”

    His mother concurs that a miracle saved her son. “From no brainwaves to now walking and talking and reading, doing math. A miracle,” she told CBS.

    His family is seeking donations for Trenton McKinley’s ongoing treatment and associated costs.

    Nebulous concept of “brain death” used by physicians to remove organs from living patients

    The concept of “brain death” is a vaguely-defined and controversial one, and hospitals often disagree on its definition and on the tests necessary to determine it. The term was introduced in 1968 for the purpose of justifying organ transplants, which usually involve the removal of vital organs from a person who is still breathing and has a heartbeat, or whose ventilator has been shut off only seconds before.

    Dr. Paul Byrne, an experienced neonatologist, clinical professor of pediatrics at the University of Toledo, and president of Life Guardian Foundation, told LifeSite in 2011 that doctors are generally aware of the fact that transplant donors are not really dead when their organs are removed.

    “All of the participants in organ transplantation know that the donors are not truly dead,” Byrne told LifeSite. “How can you get healthy organs from a cadaver? You can’t.”

    Byrne told LifeSite that giving pain medication to organ donors is a routine procedure. Doctors taking organs from “brain-dead” donors “have to paralyze them so they don’t move so when they cut into them to take organs, and when they paralyze them without anesthetics, their heart rate goes up and their blood pressure goes up,” said Byrne. “This is not something that happens to someone who’s truly dead,” he added.

    A video documentary regarding the problematical nature of organ donation and the ambiguities of “brain death” has been produced by Life Issues Institute, called “Surprising Realities of Brain Death and Organ Donation”:

    Numerous similar cases of patients “waking up” before organ removal reported by LifeSite

    The case of Trenton McKinley’s recovery from “brain death” is one of many examples of such cases reported by LifeSite in recent years.



    In 2015, George Pickering Sr. saved his son from death when he held off hospital staff with a firearm in order to buy his son more time to prove that his diagnosis of “brain death” was false. The hospital had informed Pickering that his son, George Pickering Jr., would soon be removed from life support, and the staff had already begun preparing to “donate” his organs. After a three-hour standoff with authorities, Pickering’s son began squeezing his hand, and Pickering Sr. surrendered. His son fully recovered.

    In 2014, 40-year-old Jenny Bone awoke from a medically-induced coma and revealed that she hadn’t been in a “persistent vegetative state” as doctors had claimed, and in fact had listened to them discuss the removal of her life support. The doctors had admitted to her husband that they didn’t know what was wrong with her, but had claimed she was “unresponsive.”

    In 2013 a “brain dead” woman who was about to have her organs removed opened her eyes on the operating table, saving her life. Although nurses had done a number of tests and made several observations that indicated that the woman was reactive and conscious, their reports to doctors appeared to have been ignored.

    In 2012, a teenager named Stephen Thorpe who had been injured in a car wreck was declared “brain dead” by British National Health Service physicians after they had placed the child into a medically-induced coma. They then began to pressure Thorpe’s father to grant permission to remove his organs for donation. Thorpe’s father had a sense they were wrong, and enlisted the help of a neurologist, who observed that Thorpe still had brain waves. The physicians agreed to bring Thorpe out of the coma, and two weeks later he regained consciousness.

    In 2011, the Quebec Hospital Sainte Croix de Drummondville sought permission to extract the eyes of a patient who had choked on hospital food in the absence of a nurse, claiming she was “brain dead.” After the family demanded proof from physicians of her alleged condition, she regained consciousness, and recovered most of her faculties. The family declared its intention to sue the hospital.
     
  16. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

  17. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    A question: Does anyone happen to know the Church teaching on having a funeral mass of burial on a Sunday? I don't know if there is a strict rule on this or not, but I see it is happening in my Church this week. I assume it is because our priests take off on Monday's and Tuesday's every week and Wednesday is too far out for the family.

    Here is what I found out through Catholic.com Not sure if a "Requiem Mass is considered a "Memorial Mass". And since the US has moved the Holy Day of Obligation for the Thursday Ascension to take place on the following Sunday, I would say this is considered a solemnities mass.

    Answer from Catholic.com

    Yes, with some restrictions. A requiem Mass is a Mass for the dead. It is a specific ritual Mass, as opposed to the Mass of the day being offered for someone's soul. It can either be the Rite of Christian Funeral Mass or a ritual Mass for the dead.

    General Instruction of the Roman Missal:

    380. Among the Masses for the Dead, the Funeral Mass holds first place. It may be celebrated on any day except for solemnities that are holy days of obligation, Holy Thursday, the Easter Triduum, and the Sundays of Advent, Lent, and Easter, with due regard also for all the other requirements of the norm of the law.

    381. A Mass for the Dead may be celebrated on receiving the news of a death, for the final burial, or the first anniversary, even on days within the Octave of Christmas, on obligatory memorials, and on weekdays, except for Ash Wednesday or weekdays during Holy Week.
     
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  18. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    I know someone who flies all over the country and harvests organs from people and they do this procedure while the patient is still alive if at all possible. Consider that. Alive whether on a machine or not is alive.
    He's an athiest. In fact, I don't think he even sees people as any different than animals. This is the day we live in.
     
  19. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    Yep, ESPN really led the way with this stuff and is the reason I no longer watch pro sports of any kind.
    Bread and circus for the people.
    The comments toward the end of the article make pretty clear how tolerant the LGBBQ crowd are if you don't "celebrate" their diversity.
     
  20. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    The key to the Church's involvement in this crass display of self-indulgence in a comment from Cardinal Dolan:

    "..............Steve and Christine Schwarzman, cherished friends so generous to our inner-city schools, Catholic Charities and St. Patrick's Cathedral, and I, are here......."​

    It also explains how so many of Podesta's "Catholic Spring" crowd had been employed by Catholic Charities. There was nothing beautiful there - just attention seeking vulgarity. Reminds me of the saying "Where beauty lies, one must gaze; ugliness is the centre of attention".

    They would at least have been honest had this been the song performed by the Vatican's choir:

     
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