Well, the fact that there were 5 says a lot right there. People still have a choice and when wrong in a choice they can correct next time....as what happened more recently after a long learning curve of disillusionment and late discovery of some facts. They may learn through difficulties about their free choice and use it again to hopefully make things better....anyway, they at least get to suffer the consequences of their own individual choices and use such knowledge to adjust "systems" hopefully for the benefit of all. A better way to write history with responsibility rather than suffer doubly, unable to have their ideas even heard if differing from a self anointed dictator who permits no challenge. IOW, with what we all know to this day.....no way Putin! Not even a choice when the outcome is a very undesirable chance of dying a not very pleasant death before one's time: Here’s a list of Putin critics who've ended up dead http://www.businessinsider.com/list-of-people-putin-is-suspected-of-assassinating-2016-3
1. people have A CHOICE??!? Really!? ...you actually believe the American ppl have a CHOICE? they dont have a choice. you call Clinton or Trump a CHOICE?? open your eyes. (and by the way, I'm not criticising America here. I'm saying the things ordinary everyday freedom-loving American ppl should be saying). WHY ARENT YOU??? 2. Who said Putin is self appointed? ..not everyone likes the American version of democracy. The Russian ppl appear happy with Putin. - and why wouldnt they be, get this: the Russian government just paid off the last of their national debt! AND they also paid the national debt of their former soviet republics. How's that american system you can "adjust" every few years doing? You Tube some of Ronald Reagans old speeches: he warned the American ppl of this type of 'democracy'. He saw it coming!! To love your country is right... thats how it should be. Im not questioning that. But to blindly defend your country when it is enslaving many if its ppl and butchering many others is far off lands (and many of its own young ppl in these far off lands) is naive. The debt mountain is coming for you. And by default the rest of the west too. The liberals have taken over, and they'll attack our church overtly soon. Wake up! ...somethings wrong with America. At least question things, the world needs the real America back. For me, its Putin every time. Hes out manouerving america at every turn. If he was the leader of America, he'd either drive it back to being the conscientious policeman of the world, or he'd be 'taken out' by the shady secret societies that run America (just like JFKennedy)!
jackzokay: 2. Who said Putin is self appointed? I dunno.....it wasn't me! I believe the term was "self anointed". Big difference that sorta explains the topic being under rant here....er, I meant discussion.
What a minute. There are those on this forum that said Russia has been converted and the era of peace has already taken place. Now we have its former Communist high ranking officer bragging about wiping the US or any country on earth out of existence. God figure!
...splitting hairs there, Earth. no? And am I correct in picking-up the sarcasm in your reply? You are sarcastically saying that my replies (to your side of the debate) are 'rants'? Sweet mother of God! there is no hope!
This latest need for self promotion (and local public consumption) by Mr. Putin comes after he recently had his little butt kicked in Syria AFTER his troops (with his orders) thought they just might have a go at attacking our troops without any repercussion (maybe their current training hadn't been updated to "after Obama" rules of engagement!). Putin had to approve Russian attack on US troops .....the bottom line is that these killers (Wagner Group) — primarily ethnic Russians, but also recruited regionally — work for Putin. Russian suggestions that this was a rogue operation are ludicrous: An armored task force including hundreds of Russian citizens doesn’t attack US troops and blindside Putin. Doesn’t work that way, comrade. And somewhere between several dozen and 200 of these Kremlin auxiliaries were killed, with hundreds more of the attackers wounded. We may never know the precise number, but the interesting point is that the higher casualty figures come from unofficial Russian sources. What happened? Last week, a Russian-directed task force with tanks and artillery crossed the agreed deconfliction line separating Assad’s turf and that liberated by the Syrian Democratic Forces — our guys. The Russians knew our advisors were there because we told them. After about 5 miles, the Russians, thinly cloaked as regime forces, attacked. It was a very bad idea. Our ground-attack aircraft and drones struck back promptly to protect our troops. And the crucial difference between our pilots and Russians jet-jockeys is that we hit our targets. It was not a banner day for Mother Russia. SEE ALSO View attachment 7502 Israeli fighter jet downed after alleged breach by Iranian drone But while the guided bombs struck, a charade continued, with US and Russian officers chatting on a hot line. We warned the Russians we were hitting the attackers. The Russians played dumb and didn’t interfere. (No plausible denial had they gotten openly involved.) And there would’ve been a lot of Russian aircraft strewn over the landscape. What now? The Russians will try to take revenge, one way or another. President Trump will be tested. In a phone conversation with Putin on Monday, the president and the czar didn’t discuss the events in Syria, according to the Russian side. Hard to believe, but what really matters will be what happens next. Nor did this event happen in a strategic vacuum. Almost simultaneously, Iran tested Israel by sending a drone into Israeli airspace. And Iran fared even worse than did those Russian yahoos with tanks. After butchering Syrian civilians with impunity, it must have shocked the Kremlin’s gangsters-in-uniform to face US airpower, but the Iranians in Syria paid a still-higher price: The IDF tore apart Assad’s air defenses and hit Iranian command-and-control nodes. We killed sergeants, the Israelis killed colonels. Iran wants Israel destroyed and all Jews dead. Putin wants the US out of Syria, but doesn’t really mind if Israel weakens Iran’s grip at this point — leaving Assad more reliant on Russia. Lot of moving parts in this scenario. But what’s clear as vodka is that Putin was willing to risk a large number of his men in the hope they’d kill enough American advisers to make us flee Syria. It didn’t work, but Putin won’t give up. He’s paid a much higher price in Syria than he initially expected, and he wants a return on his investment. He’ll try other ways to drive us out, perhaps using terror attacks to kill Americans. https://nypost.com/2018/02/13/russians-attacked-american-troops-on-putins-orders/
It's like debating with a child. when a child can't defend its position, it stoops to spitting the wee dummy out. classy!
...look, anyone can pull quotes, info and posts from the internet to back up theor position. What I'm asking is that you don't blindly follow your government. Their policies are killing your young soldiers in far off countries. They have acquired for you and the west a debt mountain that is coming for us. secret societies are everywhere in government and in the ruling elite. your kids are dying in their classrooms. The media is biased to the point if brainwashing the American ppl. I could go on and on... why do you not see the plank in your own countries eye??? why do you not question things,???
I believe the last election (despite the left's enabling media) belies your enumerating of concerns for Americans as being current rather than existing as part of the Obama regime who weaponized the agencies of power (thus, news flash, Americans are taking care of that business!)....Americans of such quality, btw, ARE the government for better or worse....and said corruption is being corrected with the full exposure, as gradual as such a major process must be after so much criminality in high places, of the rotten and diabolical systems along with their criminal directors. So, not to worry about "planks in eyes" or "things" going unquestioned. In fact, watching the effect of such current American leadership in the rest of the world.....of either following our example or at least being made to look at themselves as well.... is nothing more than the usual effect of true American leadership throughout history. When America fails in that God given plan or duty, the effects of dire repercussions throughout the world has always been duly noted in the sad recording of history.
what?! what?!!!! okay. you're now seriously telling me that the bad man has been put out of washington/government. And everything's now great. phewww ! (he said in astonishment) thank God for that.
Jackzokay I agree that the media in the Western World have a serious negative impact and power over the people; we are all to some extent influenced by media... but in my view it is not fair to icon status to Putin as a model leader that any Western Democracy should want. I seriously think he is a threat to the establishment of true democracy in any country. Very likely he has been able to bring the national debt under control, because he in effect a dictator. God Bless
Doubtful that a Russian economy that brings in less than Canada's per year will create its new nation annihilating nuke delivery system any time soon. But such video enhanced prototype advertising may be good for local consumption prior to an "election". But the viciousness of the man's dream is enlightening of the person himself.
Ain't gonna happen. The "hypersonic nuclear weapons" are possible. It's called a "missile". The "nuclear-powered cruise missile" is totally bogus. Missiles fly because their engines produce thrust by using the byproducts of high-pressure, high-energy combustion to propel the missile forward. Nuclear power does not produce any high-pressure, high-energy combustion byproducts. Nuclear power plants (including the ones on submarines and aircraft carriers) provide propulsion by heating water, which is used to drive steam turbines to produce electricity or to drive the propeller shafts. In theory you could create a nuclear powered jet by using the heat of fusion to heat compressed air which would drive the jet turbine, but such a device would be impossible outside of earth's atmosphere. Do a Goggle search on "nuclear powered jet engines" for some background. The "nuclear-powered underwater drone and cruise missile" is likewise bogus. Water is MUCH more dense than air. Currently the world record holder for submarine speed is the Russian Alpha class of nuclear-powered subs. They can reportedly reach speeds of up to over 40 knots (74 km/h or 46 mph). Add stealth capability and you've cut down that maximum speed quite a bit. IOW, travelling across the ocean at 40 knots is NOT unstopable. What worries me about these ideas is that the main drawback in the west to any similar design is the weight of shielding needed. BUT... if you don't care about shielding during flight or going underwater -- because you're going BOOM at the end -- then that CAN make the designs lighter. IN any case, these designs are going to to be dangerous just sitting on the ground.
Russia, Russia, Russia... Russian Implementation of Syria Cease-Fire Inadequate, DoD Spokesperson Says By Marine Corps Sgt. David Staten DoD News, Defense Media Activity WASHINGTON, March 1, 2018 — https://www.defense.gov/News/Articl...-cease-fire-inadequate-dod-spokesperson-says/ The U.N. Security Council unanimously voted Feb. 24 for an immediate 30-day cease-fire throughout Syria, but the regime of Syrian President Bashar Assad continues attacking its citizens, especially in East Ghouta, chief Pentagon spokesperson Dana W. White said today. The cease-fire would have allowed for the delivery of emergency aid and the evacuation of the wounded in heavily targeted areas. According to U.N. Secretary General Antonio Guterres, these areas are home to 400,000 people. Russia, a strong ally of Assad, was supposed to help in making sure the Syrian regime followed the U.N. resolution, but instead has called for daily five-hour local cease-fires to establish what it calls a humanitarian corridor so aid can enter the enclave and civilians and wounded can leave. Officials say this isn’t enough time to give the people the aid they need. With a failed cease-fire, Russia's commitment to de-escalate violence and negotiate a political solution is questionable. “Russia's inability to exert control over portions of the battlefield where they operate is troublesome,” White said. Undermining International Security White referred to U.S. Central Command commander Army Gen. Joseph L. Votel’s testimony Feb. 27 at the House Armed Services Committee, saying “Russia played both arsonists and firefighters in Syria, fueling tensions among all parties, then serving as an arbiter to resolve disputes, attempting to undermine and weaken … each party's bargaining position.” “Russia’s efforts to preserve their own interests in Syria puts coalition progress at risk, and undermines international security,” she added. White said the United States does not seek a conflict with the Syrian regime. “But we call on Russia to restrain the Assad regime, deconflict counterterrorism operations with the coalition and de-escalate the remaining battlefields of the Syrian civil war,” she added “We want Russia to live up to its commitments with respect to the cease-fire,” White said. “There are innocent people dying, there's humanitarian assistance that's not getting through. They made a commitment and we need them to uphold that commitment.” State Department Spokeswoman Calls Out Reporters for Being ‘Obsessed’ With Russian Meddling BY: Graham Piro March 1, 2018 5:28 pm http://freebeacon.com/national-secu...ut-reporters-being-obsessed-russian-meddling/ A press briefing became testy Thursday when State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert accused reporters of being "obsessed" with Russian interference in the 2016 election and urged them to "look at Russia and what it's doing in killing people in Syria." The exchange was prefaced by Nauert's discussion of Russia's role in Syria where she said Russia was, in part, responsible for violence occurring in the war-torn country. President Donald Trump criticized Russia last week for its role in the Syrian civil war, calling it a "humanitarian disgrace." A prominent U.S. general further ripped Russia's failure to end the ongoing conflict. Army Gen. Joseph Votel told the House Armed Services Committee that, "I'm being very serious when I say they play the role of both arsonist and fireman—fueling tensions and then trying to resolve them in their favor." Nauert was discussing the international community's attempts to holding Russia accountable for its actions in support of the Bashar al-Assad regime when she called out the reporters in the room. "Let me again urge you, I know a lot of you are so obsessed with Russia and what Russia did in the United States in the 2016 elections," Nauert said. "I would urge you to show your outrage…" she started before Associated Press reporter Matt Lee interjected. "I don't think that's true in this room. Maybe in some other briefing rooms around town. Not this one," Lee said. "OK, maybe in other briefing rooms," Nauert said. "But let me ask reporters to turn that around. It's fine to ask about Russia's role in influencing or trying to influence the 2016 election, but look at Russian and what its doing in killing people in Syria." "I think everybody in this room is asking about that and talking about that," CNN's Elise Labott said. "And I reject your assertion that everybody in this room is obsessed." "I don't think I said everybody in this room is obsessed, but in general," Nauert responded. "It's not germane to the question at hand," Labott shot back before going on to ask a question about the possibility of U.S. sanctions on Russia. Russia's Humanitarian Corridor in Syria a 'Joke,' State Department Spokeswoman Says March 01, 2018 https://www.voanews.com/a/russia-hu...tate-department-spokeswoman-says/4277203.html Russia's idea for a humanitarian corridor to evacuate civilians from a besieged Damascus suburb is "a joke," the U.S. State Department's spokeswoman said Thursday. "What needs to happen instead is a nationwide cease-fire that was voted upon unanimously at the United Nations last Saturday," Heather Nauert told reporters. "Fifteen countries supported it, let me remind you. So did Russia." Nauert said the 30-day cease-fire in eastern Ghouta approved by the Security Council was "clearly not working." She said the U.S. blamed Russia for continuing to train and equip the Syrian military. Washington is calling on the Russians to pressure the Syrians to restrain themselves and de-escalate the fighting, not just in eastern Ghouta but everywhere. Russia unilaterally announced on Monday a daily five-hour pause in fighting in rebel-held eastern Ghouta so civilians can leave through a humanitarian corridor. But no one has taken advantage of the daily lull so far, not trusting the Russians or the Syrians, and no aid has gone in. Jan Egeland, the U.N. humanitarian aid chief for Syria, called the Russian plan "positive" but "insufficient." "I know of no humanitarian actor ... who thinks that five hours is enough for us to be able to deliver relief into eastern Ghouta and to organize orderly medical evacuations out," he said. FILE - U.N. Special Envoy to Syria Staffan de Mistura delivers remarks at a Security Council meeting on the situation in Syria at U.N. headquarters in New York, April 12, 2017. U.N. 'determined' Also Thursday, U.N. envoy for Syria Staffan de Mistura said in Geneva that the U.N. "has not and will not" give up in demanding implementation of a 30-day cease-fire across Syria. "We don't have and we cannot afford to have the luxury of giving up, so any type of feeling that the U.N. is frustrated, forget it. We are not frustrated, we are determined," he said. Nearly 600 people have died and more than 1,000 have been wounded since the Syrian military launched an operation to retake eastern Ghouta from the rebels more than two weeks ago. Rockets fired from the suburb into Damascus itself have reportedly killed 15 and injured more than 200. The head of the rescue group known as the Syrian White Helmets, Raed Saleh, said Thursday in Washington that many Syrians believe the world has "abandoned and failed" them. He called U.N. Security Council resolutions worthless and said Russia was responsible for what was going on. VOA's Margaret Besheer and Chris Hannas contributed to this report. US calls out Russia for enabling Syria's chemical weapons use, says it's on the 'wrong side of history' Stephanie Nebehay, Reuters Feb. 28, 2018 http://www.businessinsider.com/us-calls-out-russia-for-enabling-syrias-chemical-weapons-use-2018-2 GENEVA (Reuters) - A senior U.S. disarmament official said on Wednesday that Russia has violated its commitments as guarantor of the destruction of Syria's chemical weapons stockpile and preventing the Assad government from using them. Robert Wood, U.S. disarmament ambassador to the Conference on Disarmament, told reporters in Geneva shortly before Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov addressed the forum: "Russia is on the wrong side of history with regard to chemical weapons use in Syria." Wood, asked about a reported nexus of cooperation between North Korea and Syria, replied: "Clearly there has been a history of a relationship between North Korea and Syria with regard to missile activity, chemical weapons components."
US Condemns Russia's development of new super nuclear weapons The Russian President says a new high-speed cruise missile has an unlimited range and can penetrate any missile defence. Friday 02 March 2018 https://news.sky.com/story/russia-d...o-interception-vladimir-putin-claims-11271735 Image: The Russian leader said the country had tested a new heavy intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) By Alan McGuinness, News Reporter The US has accused Russia of breaching cold-war treaties by developing a new generation of "invincible" weapons and submarines It follows the unveiling by President Putin of what he claimed was a new arsenal of advanced weaponry including nuclear devices immune to enemy interception. Illustrated by computerised animations, including one that appeared to show an attack on Florida, Mr Putin used his state-of-the-nation speech to warn that Moscow would regard a nuclear attack on its allies as an attack on Russia itself and would respond swiftly. "We would consider any use of nuclear weapons against Russia or its allies to be a nuclear attack on our country. The response would be immediate," he told the audience of Russian politicians and senior officials. Image: Mr Putin was addressing Russian politicians in a state-of-the-nation speech Mr Putin said the weapons made NATO's US-led missile defence system "useless" and signalled the end to Western efforts to check Russia's nuclear ambitions. "I want to tell all those who have fuelled the arms race over the last 15 years, sought to win unilateral advantages over Russia, introduced unlawful sanctions aimed to contain our country's development: all what you wanted to impede with your policies have already happened," Mr Putin said. "You have failed to contain Russia." He said the development of the new weapons was in response to the US withdrawing from a Cold War-era treaty that banned missile defences and Washington's moves to develop a missile defence system. The US State Department expressed outrage, but at the same time was scathing of what it called Mr Putin's "cheesy" animations. Image: Mr Putin's comments are likely to ratchet up tensions with Donald Trump and the US Spokeswoman Heather Nauert said: "It was certainly unfortunate to have watched the video animation that depicted a nuclear attack on the United States. "That's something that we certainly didn't enjoy watching. We don't regard that as the behaviour of a responsible international player. "President Putin has confirmed what the United States government has known for a long time but that Russia has denied prior to this. "Russia has been developing destabilising weapons systems for more than a decade in direct violation of its treaty obligations." Two of the weapons revealed by Mr Putin were a nuclear-powered cruise missile and an artificial drone. He said the missile, which was tested late last year, has an unlimited range and can penetrate any missile defence. The drone can carry a nuclear warhead and target both aircraft carriers and coastal facilities, the President also claimed. He added that the names for the two weapons had not yet been chosen and suggested the country's defence ministry could run a nationwide contest to pick the names. More from Russia Is the IOC right to lift Russia's suspension after the Winter Olympics? Police officer dies as Europa League fans clash outside Bilbao stadium Five women killed in shooting outside Russian church Lavrov: US indictments against Russians 'jut blabber' Naming Russia as a perpetrator offers cybersecurity its #MeToo moment Thirteen Russians and 'troll factory' charged with US election interference Image: Western efforts to rein in Russia's nuclear ambitions had failed, Mr Putin claimed A new heavy intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) called Sarmat is also under testing and has a range and number of warheads exceeding the capabilities of its predecessor, Mr Putin added. Another new weapon mentioned in the speech was Avangard, which Mr Putin described as an intercontinental hypersonic missile that would fly towards targets at 20 times the speed of sound and strike "like a meteorite, like a fireball".
Hi carpediemptf, I'm sorry for your troubles and will Pray for you & your wife as I do for all my Family, Friends, Comrades in Faith, Comrades in Arms and ALL who have passed through my life ... living and dead! Never, EVER!!! .... discount God's Infinite Mercy!! As the Nuns used to tell us in pre-Vatican II times ... Life is a Veil of Tears .. even for those of us who have been fortunate enough to be born in the USA and other 1st World Countries. I didn't understand that as a youngster but with the decades of time, I do now! Jesus promised us Mercy ... not an earthly Rose Garden. GOD SAVE ALL HERE!!
An interesting article relating to some of the things Jack has mentioned but also overlooked that a great many people here in the US have for many years tried like hell to dislodge the plank out of our own eye. It has been a deeply concerted effort to stop anyone from ever being successful. I wonder just how many others there are, running their stories by the likes of the CIA or the 7th floor cabal before they publish them to the public? Don't think for a second that it isn't happening in your own home countries either. https://lawandcrime.com/high-profil...-report-has-his-stories-previewed-by-the-cia/ Reporter Who ‘Independently Confirmed’ CNN‘s Fake Wikileaks Report Has His Stories Previewed By The CIA by Colin Kalmbacher | 9:11 am, December 10th, 2017 View attachment 7503 An NBC News reporter who claimed to have “independently confirmed“ CNN‘s admittedly false reporting on Wikileaks and the Trump campaign previously submitted his stories to the Central Intelligence Agency (“CIA”) for prior review. According to documents obtained by The Intercept, Ken Dilanian, a former Tribune Media national security reporter, has also promised the CIA positive press coverage in the past. According to Intercept reporter Ken Silverstein, Dilanian “routinely submitted drafts and detailed summaries of his stories to CIA press handlers prior to publication,” while working for the Los Angeles Times. In one email to a CIA press officer, Dilanian explains that he would like the CIA’s help in making Barack Obama‘s controversial drone-bombing policy more palatable to the American public. Dilanian writes: I’m working on a story about congressional oversight of drone strikes that can present a good opportunity for you guys…Not only would such a story be reassuring to the public, I would think, but it would also be an opportunity to explore the misinformation about strikes that sometimes comes out of local media reports. It’s one thing for you to say three killed instead of 15, and it’s another for Congressional aides from both parties to back you up. Part of what this story will do, if you can help be [sic] bring it fruition, is quote Congressional officials saying that great care is taken to avoid collateral damage and that the reports of widespread civilian casualties are simply wrong. On another occasion, after exchanging emails with the CIA on a story about the agency’s presence in Yemen, Dilanian sent a draft of his as-yet-unpublished report along with the subject line, “does this look better?” On yet another occasion, Dilanian seemingly fished for a way to allow the CIA to lie. He wrote: And you wouldn’t put out disinformation on this would you? If it was true and you didn’t want to confirm it, you’d say “No comment?” I ask only because covert operations are supposed to be deniable, right? After the initial report on Dilanian’s collusion with the CIA was released, the former Tribune reporter was gently reprimanded by the Tribune’s current Washington bureau chief, David Lauter, who said, “We have a very clear rule that has been in place for quite a few years that tells reporters not to share copies of stories outside the newsroom. I am disappointed that the emails indicate that Ken may have violated that rule.” Dilanian’s proven tendency to collude and collaborate with the CIA on his stories is likely to draw intense speculation about his exact role in the latest CNN fake news debacle. Law&Crime reached out to NBC/Universal for comment on Dilanian’s recently disproven assertion and his past CIA ties but no response was forthcoming at the time of publication.
