Signs in the sun, moon, and stars

Discussion in 'The mystical and Paranormal' started by Leo, Feb 18, 2015.

  1. Sorrowful Heart

    Sorrowful Heart Archangels

    The quoted passage from Mathew does not necessarily imply a war, but rather a sign in the heavens. This could be the expected shake up everyone is talking about in regards to planet X. Spooky
     
  2. Byron

    Byron Powers

    Timothius you like most Evangelicals are looking for the "physical gold instead of the spiritual gem." Read chapter 11-12 in Revelations. "Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his Covenant was seen within his temple...a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of 12 stars..." Mary is the new Covenant-the new Eve. And only when "God gathers his people together again and shows his mercy" will we all know the place where God is housed. In other words, Protestants through his mercy (maybe during the warning) will finally see Mary as glorious, as THE WOMAN, who is much more than just a woman who gave birth, but THE actual Queen of heaven, his New Ark of the Covenant. All Christians know what the Old Ark had inside it, so why did Jeremiah say God will explain when he gathers his people together again?
     
  3. Byron

    Byron Powers

    The place of the Ark of the Covenant is in heaven.
     
  4. Sorrowful Heart

    Sorrowful Heart Archangels

    where does Jesus promise this? I cannot find it.
     
  5. Byron

    Byron Powers

    It's all over the bible including in Genesis. Just read Revelations.
     
  6. Sorrowful Heart

    Sorrowful Heart Archangels

    2 Thessalonians 2:4
    Who opposeth, and is lifted up above all that is called God, or that is worshipped, so that he sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself as if he were God.

    Matthew 24
    15 When therefore you shall see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place: he that readeth let him understand.
    16 Then they that are in Judea, let them flee to the mountains:

    If the temple is spiritual, then what do you make of these two passages? Both of them refer to a person/abomination sitting in the temple of God.
     
  7. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    JAK and SorrowfulHeart, Those videos explaining Daniel are very good but the second one demonstrates that the gentleman is not RC (correct?). The first video basically explains what EarthToAngels posted about the temple being destroyed by 70AD, makes sense. In the second one he is doesn't state that the sacrifice is the Holy Eucharist, so I cannot agree.
    I am not certain, of course, but we may be in the period of the first 3.5years. If the anti-Christ is an actual Prince, then who could that be, IDK.
     
  8. Byron

    Byron Powers

    It is a physical kingdom fable about the third temple being built by the Jews in which Jesus outrightly told us we should not even follow. Matt 24:2 - not one stone will be left standing of the ancient 1st century. (The temple was destroyed twice already this is what Daniel speaks of. It has already happened). Also, 2 Thessalonians 2:4 - the temple that satan's beast sits in is the temple of the little horn's god...it is on the mount today. And of course Rev 11 - His temple is seen in heaven. The heavenly Jerusalem is the City of God. Even Matt 23:39 - says "Behold, your house is left unto you desolate...For I say unto you. He shall not see me henceforth, till he shall say, blessed is he that comeths in the name of the Lord." Psalm 83 and Genesis 15 was promised to the Jews and they forfeited that promise of Israel expanding her borders when they disobeyed God twice.
    Those who are forcing these current wars for a greater Israel will not get the prophecy they want or hope for. For Israel today means the Church. We are all the temple of God and the Spirit of God dwells in us.
     
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  9. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Following is part of the message given to Verne Dagenais in the book GSWYL https://www.scribd.com/doc/22505473/God-Speaks-Will-You-Listen

    11/6/07
    "Many teach the Antichrist will resume the Jewish sacrifice in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem to constitute the abomination of desolation. This is a false teaching, not from God, but from human understanding. My son, in the book of Daniel, the persecution by the Jews under Antiochus can be considered a partial fulfillment of the abomination of desolation. But the complete fulfillment has not yet taken place. At my death, the veil in the temple was rent in two and the old sacrificial covenant was replaced by my new covenant. My sacrifice on the cross was the final sacrifice for my peoples’ sin. I am the fulfillment of the promise to Abraham. I am the seed of Abraham, the son of David, in whom all the nations of the earth are blessed. My nation of Israel is my church, not the modern nation of Israel. My people are now all those who become part of my church through sanctifying grace. The complete fulfillment of the prophecy from Daniel of the abomination of desolation will occur: when the continual sacrifice of the mass is abolished by the false prophet and the Antichrist. Acceptance of the protestant doctrine of the mass by an antipope will be the fulfillment of the prophecy. The temple of God is my Holy Roman Catholic Church".
     
  10. Byron

    Byron Powers

    One of the Antichrist's was the Reformation. It ended the sacrifice at the altar. And that is today the Protestant mass.
     
  11. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Part of a message given to Verne Dagenais on the Protestant Reformation as follows:
    10/28/06 A.M.
    "As I was praying at the adoration chapel some thoughts came to me from Jesus. My child I ask you who is here in front of you? It is I, Jesus Christ, present Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity, creator of the universe. Where and why would you go else where to worship me? You have a tendency to search and read the teachings of other so- called prophets. Remember a true prophet teaches 100%of my truth no error. If you compare any messages and teachings with my Holy word and my church and they are not in agreement, then that teaching is not from the Holy Trinity. God is not the author of confusion. I am the way, the truth,and the life, no man cometh to the Father but by me. No one enters heaven without embracing all my truth. There will be no schisms or fighting in heaven. Everyone in heaven knows the truth. Do you realize one of the worst events in the history of the world was the protestant reformation. For it caused division in my church. Here is an example. If you plant a seed and do not water it, it will not grow. But if you water it, it will germinate and in the midst of a garden of flowers a weed can sprout. Many weeds can destroy gardens. So it is with my church. The author of confusion, Satan, spread doubts in my priests, like Martin Luther.Instead of rebuking these doubts, he let Satan water his doubts, weeds grew and confusion and schism came in my church. This was not my will. Let me ask you a question how much truth do you want? 100%, 50% or 25%? Anything less then 100% of my truth will cause confusion. There is only one source of truth in the universe, the Holy Trinity, anything else comes from Satan".
     
  12. Timothius722

    Timothius722 Archangels

    I will respond with a question. Why would the Antichrist be interested in having the original Ark of the Covenant? Do you actually think the Jews would have not tried to save their most precious Ark that contained the staff of Aaron, Manna, and the 10 Commandment tablets from Pharoah Shishaks plunder of Jerusalem? Do you actually believe the Jewish zealots would let it fall into his hands? Scripture tells us in no uncertain terms that Jeremias took it to a cave at Mt Nebo whereupon it was sealed up till "till God gather together the congregation of the people (The Jews) and receive them to mercy". Receive them to Mercy!...this clearly implies the Jews finally come into the Church on the destruction of the Antichrist.

    The Antichrist ...when he finds and brings forth the Ark...can you imagine the affect it will have on those Jews who imagine him less than the Messiah. Once Antichrist is proven false it will be the Catholics(The Church) who will be credited with guardian ship of the Ark and also more importantly prove the Catholic faiths version of the Old Testament Canon. Imagine Jews recognizing our Catholic O.T canon...what a glorious thing...glory to God! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Nebo#/media/File:The_Brazen_Serpent,_Mount_Nebo.jpg
     
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  13. Byron

    Byron Powers

    Perhaps. But i was mostly trying to make the point that the OT's Ark of the Covenant cannot overshadow the Virgin Mary's true role as the New Ark of the Covenant.
     
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  14. There is nothing hidden that will not be revealed. Glory to God!
     
  15. Timothius722

    Timothius722 Archangels

    Yes...undoubtedly Mary is the new Ark of the Covenant. And yet its prefigurement still exist. The 10 commandments that God intends to be written in all mens heart...the staff of Aaron...that staff that healed the Jews of deadly snake bite when looked upon that prefigured Jesus who heals us of deadly sin. Manna...food from heaven that prefigures our Eucharistic Lord. Its also interesting to note the brazen serpent on top of Mt Nebo. Pope John Paul 11 and Benedict both visited the site. I can't recall if Francis visited it as well. Must be something to it but only the Catholics recognize its importance.
     
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  16. Sorrowful Heart

    Sorrowful Heart Archangels

    This is amazing... thank you for this. It fills in the gaps. Because clearly sin and transgression still exists, and prophecy is not sealed up. There is also one more week still remaining in the prophecy.

    Daniel 9:24

    “Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the Most Holy Place.

    This also begs the question of the 1290 days between the ending of the continual sacrifice and the abomination of desolation Prophesied by Daniel. Does this mean that the Sacrificial Host will be eliminated and then in 1290 days the Protestant Mass will be adopted?

    Daniel 12:11

    And from the time when the continual sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination unto desolation shall be set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred ninety days
     
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  17. Sorrowful Heart

    Sorrowful Heart Archangels

    I posted the videos because RC or not, his logic is absolutely astounding in reading Daniel. He points out many facts, some of which have been fulfilled and others not. I am not posting the videos that we should believe everything he says.
     
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  18. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    SH, I didn't question you posting the videos, I just wanted to confirm why he doesn't see the 70th week the way that I see it.
     
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  19. Sorrowful Heart

    Sorrowful Heart Archangels

    ok cool, we are on the same page
     
  20. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    Yes and no. Prophecy tells us that the public celebration of Mass in churches will end, but those in the state of grace will continue to receive Eucharist via angels and on occasion a priest who is moving underground.
     

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