Sacred Numbers 666 and 19 in Islam

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by concernedforusa, Mar 20, 2014.

  1. Lesley72

    Lesley72 New Member

    I wanted to add that the number 19, in the Bible, seems to represent sin and God's judgment. Interesting, I think, that the Quran uses the numbers 666 & 19.
     
  2. josephite

    josephite Powers

    This is very interesting! And sheads a new light on Revelations!
     
  3. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    I have often wondered about the true identity of the 'angel' that appeared to Mohammed.
     
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  4. Julia

    Julia Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.

    Well, we are told the devil can appear as an angel of light. And I did read somewhere Mohammed was a fallen Christian. Disgruntled and started a new religion.

    The interesting thing that grabs me is from the Father Gobbi RIP books. In there it is said that the number 666 affected history since Jesus.

    I wonder if the year 666 was when Mohammed was born, or started his religion. Something was supposed to happen that year.

    Then in the year 666 multiply by 2 = the year 1332. Something happened then, was is to do with the crusades.

    Then in the year 666 multiply by 3 = the year 1998. Something happened then, was it to do with the muzzies.

    I often think by the year 2000 a restrainer was lifted, could the year 1998 be the very year after which the Lord had enough of Christians ignoring His Laws and Precepts. Ignoring Our Lady of Fatima and her request for Consecration to her Immaculate Heart. Ignoring Her request for the Five First Saturdays.

    And finally letting us reap what we have sown in facing the beast which has infested islam, ready for the kill. Remember God did not drown the people in Noah's day without warning. The rain fell, and everyone carried on until it was too late and they were drowned because the rain did not stop until they were all drowned except Noah and his family. So too today, the Muslim population grows and explodes around us. Will we wake up before it is too late. Will we repent and be saved even if we have to be martyred for our Faith, eternity is worth being saved for.

    We have this precious year of 2017 when I hope Blessed Mother will convert many Muslims and indeed convert many Christians too, so we have another chance to turn back to God.

    I've just realised another amazing coincidence. The number 19 is mentioned in the posts above, firstly it is found in the Bible, to do with sin and God's judgement. Then Muslims say it is an important number.

    In the Don Bosco prophesy he mentions the year 1510, we know that was the battle at Le Panto. Then he mentions the year 19..
    There is the number 19 again. I always thought it was just referring to something that would happen between 1900 and 1999. But it must have been a sign that would make more sense at some future time. It has just made sense to me. It is to do with islam.
     
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  5. padraig

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    I am bumping this thread because loads of people are coming to read it for some reason:)
     
  6. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    I was brought back by the bump. I have to say that I was impressed by a defense of the Catholic Church in one of the OP's posts, where he stated that all historical and archeological evidence clearly indicates that all church buildings prior to the Reformation, and going right back to the beginning of Christianity look like Catholic churches. To me, this speaks volumes. It also struck me, that the iconoclasm and plainness of Protestant church buildings might have been influenced by Islam-any thoughts?

    Regarding who dictated the Koran to Mohammed, I recently read an account by a brave Coptic priest, with an al-Qaeda bounty of $60,000,000 on his head and who proselytises to the Mohammedans of Egypt, that Mohammed only identified this being as 'the angel Gabriel' at the suggestion (obviously a 'steal' from the Annunciation) of one of his favourite wives, among the many he had. Ironically, it was possibly the only time he listened to a woman, but this suggestion would have neatly fitted both their agendas-a wive looking for favour amongst severe competition and a recipient of demonic 'prophesy' looking for respectability.
     
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  7. HeavenlyHosts

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    :D“Possibly the only time he ever listened to a woman......”
     
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  8. padraig

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    Actually if it was not for the Sunni / Islamic Ottoman Empire supporting heretics like Queen Elizabeth the 1st and their attack up to the Gates of Vienna the Protestant Revolt would have never succeeded.

    Also Protestant and Islamic idealogues saw similiarities between the divisions between Sunni's and Shia and Islam and between Protestantism and Catholicism in Christianity. Certainly the Caliph thought Sunni's and Protestants were natural allies and gave huge financial and military support to the Protestant Princes.

    As I wrote earlier there would be no Protestants today of not for Islam.

     
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  9. padraig

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    Actually if it was not for the Sunni / Islamic Ottoman Empire supporting heretics like Queen Elizabeth the 1st and their attack up to the Gates of Vienna the Protestant Revolt would have never succeeded.

    Also Protestant and Islamic idealogues saw similiarities between the divisions between Sunni's and Shia and Islam and between Protestantism and Catholicism in Christianity. Certainly the Caliph thought Sunni's and Protestants were natural allies and gave huge financial and military support to the Protestant Princes.

    As I wrote their would be no Protestants today of not for Islam.

     
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  10. DeGaulle

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    Divide and conquer.
     
  11. Joan J

    Joan J HolySpiritCome!

    Or could it have to do with this current year?? Sure it doesn't have to do with Christian persecution from all sides or other messes we're in? Perhaps a very remarkable Synod in October...of all months. The number 19 is mentioned in the posts above, firstly it is found in the Bible, to do with sin and God's judgement. There is no coincidence here!!
    Lots of speculation.
     
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  12. Joan J

    Joan J HolySpiritCome!

    Oh boy, Synod coming up!!
    Hang onto your hats!! On the other hand, the Warning has GOT to be just around the next corner.
    First I've heard anything about the number 19.
     
  13. this didn't have to do with muzzies, it had to do with freemasonry.
    from message 407 666 indicated thrice, that is to say, for the third time, expresses the year 1998, nineteen hundred and ninety-eight. In this period of history, Freemasonry, assisted by its ecclesiastical form, will succeed in its great design: that of setting up an idol to put in place of Christ and of his Church..........look up the rest of it.......it is too depressing to type out. I trust in the Holy Trinity and the love of our Heavenly Mother to guide us through.
     
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  14. Joan J

    Joan J HolySpiritCome!

    Care for a link? My imagination is starting to run. Message 407 in which thread? Or is that a reference for Fr Gobbi 's book?
     
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  16. lynnfiat

    lynnfiat Fiat Voluntas Tua

    This is from Fr. Gobbi's book (Marian Movement of Priests) #407, June 17, 1989, The Number of the Beast: 666
     
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  17. Eshal

    Eshal New Member

    I'm not a Christian. I just stumbled upon this page, and I'm honestly really offended. I'm not a scholar or a student of knowledge, but I absolutely hate the way you make the Islamic Prophet (SWS) seem like he degrades women. How can you say that this prophecy is 'demonic'?! I urge you, if you have questions about Islam, don't go to someone who is against Islam! Rather, go to an Islamic scholar or someone of Islamic knowledge who can answer you're question.
     
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  18. Eshal

    Eshal New Member

    What do you mean by proclamation of Muslims that 666 is a holy number? I've haven't heard anything like that from a Muslim yet. I'm no scholar or student of knowledge. Regarding the first website you gave as proof, I'm sure that the numbers are probably there. This Islamic website claims that the number 666 has no meaning in Islam: https://aboutislam.net/counseling/ask-about-islam/does-666-have-any-meaning-in-islam/ Also, the second site that you gave as a proof quotes a good amount of its proofs from the first website that you gave, and I don't think the people from your second source are even Muslims. You're proof just boils down to one single source, so you can't dress it up as something that 'Muslims themselves say'.
     
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  19. Eshal

    Eshal New Member

    please note that the 666 being a holy or evil number may or may not actually be a majority Muslim belief. Of course, I'm not a Muslim scholar or a student of knowledge so confirm what I'm saying with someone of knowledge. here is an Islamic website that I found that takes about how the number 666 has no meaning in Islam https://aboutislam.net/counseling/ask-about-islam/does-666-have-any-meaning-in-islam/
     
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