Sacred Astronomy and End Times: Written in the Stars

Thanks for the link, Miker. I agree that the connection might be made clear in the future working for the conversion of the Jews -and even Islam.

It was mentioned earlier in this thread the connection between the Ark hidden by Jeremiah and the alleged founding in a cave under Golgotha -which this article invalidates. It was very appealing to me because God doesn't leave anything loose and the fact that the blood of Jesus on the Cross might have fallen on the Mercy Seat of the Ark sounded like the coming together of Judaism and its full development in Christianity.

But reading this article -and very aware of Mary being the Ark of the New Covenant, it came to mind that the blood of Jesus DID actually fall on Mary's cloths. Luisas' Hours of the Passion (which I read regularly) specifically mentions that Mary's clothing was soak in Jesus blood. Who knows, there may be another connection here to the identification of symbols that may be made known at the time of the Miracle.

 

I know next to nothing about astronomy but this news story seems interesting... According to Antonio, Venus represents the Mother of the Messiah (Our Lady) and Jupiter, the Messiah:

http://news.sky.com/story/1510343/jupiter-and-venus-set-to-collide-in-illusion

Jupiter And Venus Set To Collide In Illusion
A natural coincidence will see the two brightest planets light up the sky as they draw unusually close together.

16:08, UK, Monday 29 June 2015


Jupiter and Venus will be roughly two thirds of a full moon's width apart

The two brightest planets – Jupiter and Venus – will appear unusually close together in a "beautiful sight" tomorrow night.

The spectacle, in which Jupiter will sit almost directly above Venus, will be visible through a small telescope or binoculars between 10.30pm to 11pm.

The planets may look they are about to collide due to an illusion caused by line-of-sight but will in fact be hundreds of millions of miles apart – roughly two thirds of a full moon's width apart.

After tomorrow they will start to go their separate ways again, with Venus below Jupiter.

Robin Scagell, vice-president of the Society for Popular Astronomy, said: "The spectacle of the two brightest planets so close together is beautiful and really unusual.

"Many people will wonder what they are seeing - but it's just a natural coincidence."

He added that the pair would make a "striking sight" for an evening or two on either side.

The planets will be seen slightly later in the north and west of the UK because it gets dark later.

Venus is now around 56 million miles from Earth and Jupiter almost 559 million miles.

Tomorrow night they will appear just 22 minutes of arc apart. For comparison, the full moon is 30 minutes of arc across.

At relatively low magnification Jupiter can be seen as a small circular disc accompanied by four bright moons. Venus will be a fat crescent.

A similar conjunction between the two planets will not be seen again from the UK until November 2019.

 

Come to think of it, wasn't there something said about the event that accompanies the Warning being "like two stars colliding in the sky"?

 

Conchita Interview:

February, 1977
Q. When did you learn about the Warning and from whom?
A. The only thing that I remember well is that it was the Virgin who told me of it.

Q. Would you repeat for us what you know about the Warning?
A. What I remember now is that the Virgin told me that before the Miracle God will be sending us a Warning so as to purify us or prepare us to see the Miracle and in this way we may draw enough grace to change our lives toward God. She told me what the Warning will consist of but not the date. I am not able to say what it consists of but I am able to say what it will be like, more or less. It is a phenomenon which will be seen and felt in all the world and everywhere; I have always given as an example that of two stars that collide. This phenomenon will not cause physical damage, but it will horrify us because at that very moment we will see our souls and the harm we have done. It will be as though we were in agony but we will not die by its effects but perhaps we will die of fright or shock to see ourselves. May the Virgin forgive me if I do not explain it the way it is, but I am trying to tell you ... after knowing what the Warning will be like that day.

Q. Did you 'see' or 'hear 'about the Warning?
A. The Virgin told me of its coming.

Q. If the Warning only lasts a short time, will the world remember it as coming from God or will it only appear to have been a dream or an illusion?
A. I have never said that the Warning will be a short moment. What I have said is that even if it were a moment it will be very impressive and terrible. No one will have doubts of it being from God, and of its not being human. I, who know what it is, am very much afraid of that day.

Q. Many years ago you told us the event of the Warning begins with the letter "A. " Since Our Lady never told you not to reveal it, can you now mention it?
A. She did not forbid it, but I don't know why I haven't said it and I don't feel as though I should say it now.

Q. You once said to Fr. Marcelino Andreu, "When you see the Warning you will know we have opened up the end of time. " Can you explain what you meant by this?
A. The Virgin told us that the Warning and Miracle will be the last warnings or public spectaculars that God will give us. This is why I believe that after them we will be near the end of time.

Q. Do you have any words of advice for the people in order that they might prepare for this event?
A. We must always be prepared for our souls in peace and not tie ourselves down so much to this world. Instead, we must think very often that we are here to go to heaven and to be saints.

 

I got the impression this phenomenon would only be visible in the UK but apparently not:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/...jupiter-venus-conjunction-astronomy/29351601/

And I particularly like the headline given in this article:

Venus to Hug Jupiter in Crazy-Close Conjunction

 

Now this is interesting:

"Sky & Telescope Contributing Editor Fred Schaaf points out that this current trio of Venus-Jupiter conjunctions closely resembles a similar series in 3-2 BC that has been suggested as the Star of Bethlehem. "As has been the case in 2014–15," Schaaf explains, "the first two conjunctions back then were extremely close, the last one separated by about 1°, all three occurred not far from Regulus, and all were similarly high up in the sky." - See more at: http://www.skyandtelescope.com/press-releases/venus-and-jupiter-june-30th/#sthash.f8VUuGrI.dpuf

 

But Antonio reasoned that the cause of the Warning/pole shift....which will cause that seeming standstill, everything stopping, at time of Warning.....will be the effects of the incoming planetary system with the "brown dwarf" which includes Nibiru ("planet of the crossing") and its satellites being seen as that "cross in the sky" as from St. Faustina's description. And the incoming comet/s are from the disruption of the belt of space junk being pulled by this system's magnetic pull....sun already being effected as well as the core of the earth causing the more frequent natural disasters. His "Astronomical Cause of the Warning". Makes sense to me....from his video, "The 6th Seal or Warning".

 

P.S. and Antonio's dates of Warning to Miracle.....Nov. 13 to Apr. 13....he notes as "wrapping" the months of Fatima's months of 13!

 

I wasn't really suggesting that tomorrow's event might herald the Warning, just noting the similarities in how this event is being described.

Having said that, I'm not entirely convinced that we can predict quite so precisely when the Warning will occur. I would not be at all surprised if the Lord took us by surprise, if that makes sense...

 

Apologies, but I'm new to the conversation. Antonio who?

 

Antonio Yague, who created the videos on sacred astronomy on which this thread is based. You can watch them if you go back to the start of the thread .

 

Peter B,Today at 12:51 PM
Saturday June 27, 2015
Apparition of the Queen of the Rosary and of Peace with the Infant Jesus
Our Lady then looked at her Divine Son and prayed to him on behalf of the Church and the world. The Infant Jesus, seeing that humanity was praying and accepted his most Holy Mother's request, listened to her request to give the keys to St Peter once again, but the Infant Jesus gave the keys into Our Lady's hands, who as Mother of the Church gave them into the hands of St Peter. She and the Infant Jesus gave us their blessing and the vision ended

When i read the above today it really made me think things are hotting up so fast and where things are beginning to lead us.
I think we have to remember why things are happening the way they are at this time and we know this because Jesus and Mary have told us through the messages they give to Sister Lucia.
Mary
"God wishes to establish the devotion to My Immaculate Heart in the world ... If people do what I ask, many souls will be saved and there will be peace. "
Jesus
"Because I want My whole Church to acknowledge that consecration as a triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary so that it may extend its cult later on and put the devotion of the Immaculate Heart besides the devotion to My Sacred Heart"

So Jesus wants us to know that The Victory over Satan will be all down to his Mother and he wants a devotion to her Immaculate Heart put alongside the devotion to his Sacred Heart and the month of devotion to his Mother is May. To me everything is pointing to the Centenary of Fatima on the 13th May 2017 as the day of the Great Miracle. There are a few Signs and some prophecy pointing to this day as well
On the first apparition at Fatima on the 13th May 1917 Our Lady said
‘I have come to ask you to come here for six months in succession, on the 13th day, at this same hour. Later on, I will tell you who I am and what I want. Afterwards, I will return here yet a seventh time.’
Our Lady appeared six times to the children at Fatima and we are still waiting on Her seventh appearance, Our Lady is nothing but truthful and she will keep her word and appear at Fatima again. My timeline is not God's timeline or the timeline of Our Lady but an appearance of Our Lady on the Centenary of Fatima at Fatima to me would be a very Great Miracle.

St John Bosco's prophecy about the Pope sailing the Ship of the Church through the Two Pillars to safety, on top of one Pillar was Our Lady on the other Pillar was the Eucharist, through both means God intends to save the Church and the World. It just so happens that both Our Lady and the Blessed Eucharist share a Holy Feast Day together and it is 13th May. When Our Lady appeared at Fatima on the 13th May 1917 she appeared on the Feast of Our Lady the Blessed Eucharist (My Avatar is Our lady of the Blessed Eucharist) it was then changed in 1920 to Feast Day Our Lady of Fatima.


Comet Ison

Signs in the sun the moon and the stars,(Comet Ison) On the 28th Nov 2013 a green Comet called Ison crashed into the Sun (Feast Day of Catherine Laboure) at the time i remember many people where like myself watching Ison and its course as many thought Ison could be the Comet that would give us the sign for the coming Tribulation. When Ison crashed into the Sun on the 28th Nov 2013 it was put to one side as another failed sign and everyone moved on to wait for the next one. As part of waiting and watching for signs unfold there are certain time periods we are told to watch out for one being 1260 days or as the Bible calls it A Times, A Times and Times and a Half. This according to the bible is the amount of time the Holy Family had to stay in Egypt after they fled into exile from Herod and the Slaughter of the Innocents also it is the time period that Our Lady remained on the Earth after the Ascension into Heaven of Jesus, and is also linked to the time period the Antichrist has is in charge on Earth. So if we have our start day as 28th Nov 2013 and you add A Times, A Times, and a Times and a Half or 1260 days it takes you up to 13th May 2017 The Centenary of Fatima which to me is a sign that God has planned a very special Centenary for his Mother.

 

That's exactly why I think he is actually describing the Chastisement, not the Warning. An axis/pole shift is a catastrophic killer of millions. Not the Warning, and doesn't begin with "A"

 

Personally I take with a grain of salt -or two- all timetables and dates for scatological events -including those well founded like Antonio's. But I appreciate that opinions are well founded and sometimes data come through that make us think things around and adjust them to the new facts we learned.

Here is a case: I would love to see a new apparition of Mary in Fatima on the centenary day, May 13, 2017. But that would not be the 7th apparition since the 7th apparition already happened on June 15, 1921.

In a recently published book by the Nuns of the Carmel of Coimbra -based on Sr. Lucia's personal notebooks- A Pathway under the Gaze of Mary, there is whole chapter entitled "I'm here for the 7th time" and it is about Lucia's departure from Fatima and the struggle she went through in her heart to be able to say yes to such a painful farewell for good.

Quote:
"It was June 15, 1921, when I felt myself struggle with the indecision and the regret of the 'yes' that I had given earlier [to the bishop's plan for her] ... Goodbye to all this in the bloom of youth ... Where the Bishop wants to send me, I do not know how it will be and it is with the condition of not returning home ...
It was in the afternoon of this day with this multitude of thoughts trampling each other, that I went through all the places connected with the apparitions and with a special connection to my heart. When I arrived at the Cova da Iria I knelt down next to the grid which protected the site where Our Lady appeared on the holm oak, and I let the tears run down from my eyes ....

[The narrator of the book explains at this point:] "The Virgin Mother who had promised never to abandon her in her time of anguish came to bring peace to her soul, thus fulfilling the promise made on May 13, 1917, to return here a seventh time. Lucia continued to pray:"

"So helpful, once again you have come down to Earth; and then I felt your helping hand and maternal touch on my shoulder. I looked up and I saw you, it was you, Blessed Mother, holding my hand and showing me the path, and your lips unveiled the sweet timbre of your voice and light and peace was restored to my soul. 'Here I am for the seventh time. Go, follow the path which the Bishop wants you to take, this is the will of God'. I repeated my 'yes', now much more conscious than on that day of May 13, 1917."

 

I agree with you, Jon, in that I'm not so sure that the Warning of Garabandal and the astronomical event that Antonio identifies with it are simultaneous and/or interdependent. He has very many Scripture quotations to base his hypothesis but there is a big jump of thought that he makes at some point which I don't see as evident.

To me the weak spot of identifying the astronomical catastrophe and the spiritual Aviso of Garabandal is that the Aviso in every form that has been conveyed to us (that I know of), is always considered "not lethal in itself" -so to speak-. Antonio dismisses this by explaining that only later on Conchita thought about the astronomical aspect -which is massively lethal. And he brings to his point Conchita's saying that "If she had not seen the Chastisement she would believe that the Aviso was the Castigo (chastisement)"

Well, we will have to wait and see. It seems to me that the astronomical Warning is well dated based on Antonio's explanations of Sacred Astronomy. But I'm not that sure that the spiritual Aviso will happen at the same time, and same date. It would sound almost like a deception in the way it has conveyed to us by different seers.

But I take with a grain of salt my own opinion too . I could be dead wrong!!!

 

Very nice analysis. I agree. One thing that influences my thoughts as well is the description of the Warning published by Luz de Maria.....

 

View attachment 3146 Not the greatest pictures, but gives you a sense of the absolute breathtaking Jupiter-Venus (Star of Bethlehem) conjunction tonight here in NY suburbs. When you see something like this, you feel oh so small and know just how powerful God, the Creator of the Universe is! View attachment 3144

 

I have followed "conspiracy theory" for about 15 years now and I have always had a problem with the whole Planet X/Nibiru thing. Anyone else? I just feel there is no way that in the modern world with so many telescopes, that we would not know this certainty. How could the powers that be cover up such an event. If this brown dwarf is approaching then where is it? I have heard that it is below the earth so it can only be seen in the southern hemisphere. I have also heard it is coming behind the sun so we can't see it until it is in front of the sun. There are countless videos and book on this and yet we see nothing other than some of the famous pictures that have been floating around the web for at least 15 years now. Now of course God could keep it hidden from us and I do not doubt that our sun could have a brown dwarf pairing to it since most stars have this pairing but I just don't know. Thoughts? I absolutely think Antonio's work is brilliant and fascinating but once it got to this discussion on planet X/nibiru I instantly began to question it.

 

Andy3, I whole-heartedly agree! I was going to wait until I had a chance to review the videos, but no, there is NO such thing as a Planet X / Nibira / Giant Spaghetti Monster (GSM) that is approaching earth.

(Although I kinda like the idea of fighting off a GSM attack. I mean, would we use a simple garlic butter sauce, or go whole tomato with vats of homemade spaghetti sauce, made by hundreds of the world's grandmas? Would we have to work with Japan, given her experience with fighting Godzilla? Maybe we could borrow Mothra to drop the sauce on the GSM. The mind boggles.)

I don't know if this is a problem with translation or if Antonio actually said this, but the culprit with such an extra-solar body would not be magnetism, but gravity. If a jovian-size mass (a planet the size of Jupiter i.e, Planet X) were to approach our solar system, we would be seeing the effects years before the planet even reached the orbit of Pluto. It would have to travel through the Oort Cloud, the sphere of rocks and proto-comets that surrounds our solar system to a diameter of 3 lightyears.

(To give you an idea of scale, the Voyager 1 and 2 missions are the fastest human-made objects ever launched. After 35 years of travel, they finally passed the 100 AU mark. An AU (Astronomical Unit) is the distance from the Earth to the Sun. There are a hair less than 63,240 AUs in one lightyear. Even if Planet X were travelling 10 times as fast as the Voyager probes [which would make it the fastest-moving physical object in the known universe], it would take over 200,000 years before it exited the Oort cloud and approached the orbit of Pluto.)

If Planet X were approaching from either above or below the solar plane, its gravitational pull would have to disturb those objects. A great many of those objects would be swung around this mass and flung towards the inner system, where telescopes would catch a large number of objects travelling perpendicular through the solar plane. Why is that? Where are they coming from? Talk about your doctoral theses and Nobel prizes!

What's more, the gravitational pull of Planet X would be disturbing the orbits of the outer planets -- Uranus and Neptune specifically. Astronomers would be calculating where to point their telescopes, and those calculations would be wrong, and wrong in a consistent manner. To give you an idea of how precise and exact those calculations are, the first such calculations on the orbit of Uranus were published in the 1840's and led to the discovery of Neptune. When the calculations were STILL off, that's when the hunt for Pluto was on. Pluto is a dwarf planet, a little bigger than our moon. Planet X is at least the size of Jupiter, which puts its mass at several thousand times that of Pluto. The gravitational effect of a jovian-size mass outside the orbit of Pluto would STILL be throwing off calculations and the issue would have been settled decades ago. (BTW, it's these gravitational effects, even though they are small ones, that let us know that there is NOT a second Earth on the opposite side of the sun, hidden from us. We would have known by the effect that object's gravity would have on the orbits of Mars and Venus.)

(Wow. Is that the sound of another conspiracy theory crashing to the ground I hear? It does make a satisfying "crunch", doesn't it?)

I've been talking about Planet X, a Jovian-class planet. If we're talking about Nibiru, a brown-dwarf stellar mass, multiply all gravitational effects by at least 100,000. Stellar masses, even for brown dwarfs, are huge and their effects are unmistakable. Plus, even if it's a brown dwarf and not emitting a significant amount of light, it would be emitting a HUGE amount of heat radiation. To any modern telescope calibrated to measure infrared radiation, Nibiru would be standing out like a beacon.

So, onay otay ibirunay, as we say in pig latin.

 

I agree there is a host of strange stuff about this issue on the Internet. Take a listen, though, to the following to examine the data collected by Terral:

Terral’s Newest Black Star Update 06-11-2015:

Terral’s Newest Black Star Update 06-18-2015:

Terral’s Newest Black Star Update 06-25-2015:

Also, take a look at what Servant of God, Luisa Piccarreta, writes about a star in the air, of enormous magnitude that contains within its roundedness black fire and blood that struck fear and fright in looking at it (Vol. 2, March 14, 1899).