Sacred Astronomy and End Times: Written in the Stars

Discussion in 'The mystical and Paranormal' started by Woman Clothed WithThe Sun, Nov 2, 2014.

  1. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    JAK, Antonio Yague has done a lot of analysis but I am not certain that is theory for the Warning is correct. I feel this way mainly because the Garabandal seers told us that the celestial event will not cause anyone to die and that if people die it will be out of fright of seeing their sins. In addition , the Garabandal seers also said that this event would not able to be explained by science. So we have yet to see what happens but this does not match up for me.
    Jesus did warn Conchita that Garabandal would not be able to be reached from the north of Spain but he didn't state why, so no one knows for certain. In other words, Antonio Yague believes that it is due to flooding caused by this celestial event, personally I don't think so.

    Other MOG members are very sold on Antonio Yague's idea so you will get a bunch of different answers I am certain.
     
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  2. This incoming "system" is already being witnessed by various huge telescopes in different parts of the world. Our poles are already shifting. Our weather patterns are already exaggerated with unknown expectations for the future.

    There are of course all types of possibilities that can go off of any pinpointed dates....and that has already happened as explained by our Lady as she has said that she has prevented many "supposed-to-take-place" events through her intercession and her children's own efforts. And many good solutions/events have been prevented from taking place throughout history as heaven had planned due to human interference, lack of faith, and stubbornness/pride by the Church itself to act. And so here we are living 100 years later in the horrors predicted but which could have been prevented. During that time period how many times were there hopes for something to happen in order to stave off the punishments but we/the Church failed numerous times in simple faith and obedience. Instead there were all kinds of excuses made out of human reasoning and this world's rationales!

    It is said that once that "second sun" is seen....meaning visible by the human eye without all the special instruments where only the elites are able to see and thus to plan only for themselves, and keep hidden from the masses.....that huge natural disasters will occur en masse/huge weather changes. That type of effect has to come, at least naturally, via big shifts in our magnetic poles....and that has already begun somewhat....and is speeding up.

    So many cosmic events can come in the midst of all of this. Perhaps such an event within the rest of the commotion....that could look rather frightful, like that "looking like two stars colliding" but without harming anyone (just to gain our attention...ha!)....could very well be something that looks to scientists as well as something that could have been, or should have been, much worse but its after effect (that illumination of conscience) is what cannot be explained by scientists. The effect upon our sense of time .... as if time stops no matter where you are ..... and the effect it has upon our consciousness of ourselves/an unbelievable experience in which we have no control but must be "victims" of God's Mercy in order to recognize our true states of soul .... is something that science truly cannot explain as any natural after effect of any cosmic event. They may try though by reasoning that people became in a state of hysteria due to such cosmic events. So the horror of the cosmic event itself can have the unexpected after effect of mitigation of harm, via the hand of the Blessed Mother....just as the expectation of horrible results from the sun doing unexplainable things at Fatima.....also had its own unexplainable followup .... also due to the hand of the Mother. And how many "of the world" still today explain away that witnessed to event of history?

    I think that Mr. Yague uses a cosmic event to help explain how creation itself can or will be used to be the background for such rather "supernatural" experiences of the Warning....thus also fulfilling how the sky will look, as in scripture's description, like it is folding up or rolling up like a scroll.....and that such a change in the natural order will also have that massive effect upon man's psyche which will place him in the "position" of becoming helpless before the Lord; nowhere to run; with the universe seeming to dissolve around him. What an experience to come....that's for sure!
     
  3. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    I should have said "difficult" to reach from the north of Spain.
     
  4. Quite a few prophecies mention that the land will be inundated by the seas, which I have noticed since I live near the sea. So I expect at some point for this to happen, and I do not know if I will be alive then, or not. But if I am to be swept away, then I pray I will be swept into the arms of God.
     
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  5. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    HH, I know that Saint Patrick had a prophecy about Ireland being flooded and some people feel that this was fulfilled already possibly 7 years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Great_Britain_and_Ireland_floods and I think he said that 7 years later the end of times would be begin?
    I have faith in what the Garabandal seers were told. IMHO, if something is approaching the Earth it won't do any damage until the chastisements begin. I believe Mary for her word that we are to be given this second chance, so no major, major damage until later. Now that doesn't mean that Spain's northern coast would not experience some flooding before hand but I think that Antonio Yague is predicting a pole reversal and that is an extinction event, so in my book that's out.
    Pole shifting is different and that has been happening already for years the poles actually move a little bit.
     
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  6. There could also be the interruption of normal passage and transportation due to the fact that the Russian Communist invasion is said to have to occur prior to the Warning even though it is predicted to be of a rather short duration. Tom Fahy, via Conchita, has said that Garabandal itself will be entered for several days and that some there as well will be martyred by such....that's why he has purchased an apt. in Fatima to wait out such before returning to Garabandal during that period of time. Since the Miracle is to occur not long after the Warning one could rationally at least still expect large and continuing disruptions in transportation, crossings, passages, esp. in the most difficult regions for travel even normally, with check points set up due to the need for control after such an invasion/destruction. And that's beyond the expected natural hazards of any sorts already occurring to any degree.
     
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  7. Serena

    Serena Principalities

    Well, I read according to St. Patrick, "The ocean shall inundate Ireland seven years before the End so that the devil may not rule over that people." And St. Colmcille, also said,
    "I concede a favour to them without exception,
    and St Patrick also did concede the same;
    that seven years before the last day,
    the sea shall submerge Eirin by one inundation
    .
    "...that to me looks like Ireland won't be around at the time of anti-christ.:( but you never can tell with prophecy, how we see it, and how it actually pans out can be quite different and God willing its a long way off yet!
     
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  8. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    Before I realized that you posted this I reviewed St. Patrick's prophecy:
    "A well-known prophecy of a nation being destroyed by tidal waves at the end-time can be found in one of the earliest biographies of St. Patrick:

    These are the three prayers of Patrick, as they were delivered to us by the Hibernians, entreating that all should be received on the day of judgment, if we should repent even in the last days of our life.
    That he should not be shut up in hell. That barbarian nations should never have the rule over us. That no one shall conquer us, that is the Scots, before seven years previous to the day of judgment, because seven years before the judgment we shall be destroyed in the sea, this is the third."

    I am not certain how to interpret this, it is confusing. He doesn't say the anti-Christ in particular but barbarian nations and the judgment is the true second coming of Jesus, maybe? Shouldn't there be a thousand years of peace before the judgment. So this shouldn't be happening any time soon, I know some think we have had those 1000 years but I am definitely not one of those people.

    This is my farfetched interpretation, I highlight farfetched, suppose Saint Patrick was shown a vision of Ireland flooded (a picture of 2009 flood), he assumes Ireland is destroyed but he was shown this to set a timeline for the warning which he refers to as the judgment not realizing and he was told that this precedes the anti-Christ.

    IMHO, I believe after reading some prophecies that the visionaries are given pictures of the future to set a timeline instead of the being told things will happen on a specific date. I actually like my farfetched idea right now because it works better than anything else I can think of and it fits best with other things I believe but I am in no way saying that I'm right.
     
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  9. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    EarthtoAngels, Have you ever verified this with Glenn, I mean about the martyrs?

    I took this from Mr. Fahy's website, "The sick there will be cured, the sinners will be converted, the unbelievers will believe, and best of all the people there will see the Glory of God and not die." He, of course, is referring to the Miracle but I am a bit shocked by this martyr statement. I pray that does not happen!

    PS- When I first read this statement a couple of months ago, I did think to myself...how can he possibly insure that?
     
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  10. Well, these statements of Tom Fahy were made during a talk he gave in Fatima and which you can hear in the video linked to below. Now, I don't think Mr. Fahy is lying about the facts as he knows them and unless Glenn is familiar with this talk or the history Mr. Fahy mentions re: Conchita in it perhaps he wouldn't be familiar with these particular statements. But by now I would think that he probably is aware of these statements Mr. Fahy claims came from Conchita. Anyway, this portion of the video talk by Tom Fahy begins at about the 36 min. point:

     
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  11. djmoforegon

    djmoforegon Powers

    This may be a stupid question, but who is Thomas Fahy and what is his connection to Garabandal? Thanks to anyone who can help with an answer.
     
  12. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    I remember watching this video but I obviously forgot a lot of it (unless there is another video like this). ETA, thank you for posting this. Mr. Fahy is saying that when the pope goes to Moscow that people living in Spain would be wise to go to southern Spain or Portugal, Fatima in particular or the may be killed by the "communists" and he says to wait until after the Warning to go to Garabandal. Maybe your idea about destruction of roads to the north of Garabandal is correct because he seems to believe that all of this uprising will end as a result of the Warning. (unless it ends as a result of the flooding caused by the Warning event, possible also, but I don't want to believe that. The result would be too many deaths and Conchita said no deaths as a result.)
    PS- I wasn't suggesting that he was lying but I feel better if someone else can confirm his statement but the way he presents here seems to make a lot of sense. As for him insuring that no one will die at the Miracle it is quite possible that this was stated by Conchita also.
     
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  13. Tom Fahy has been the go to expert on the writings of Luisa Piccaretta and teaching the meaning of the Divine Will. He has established an educational center, "House of Sanctification"/retreat center re: the Divine Will in Garabandal and is familiar with that history as well. Here is some background info on him:

    http://www.comingofthekingdom.org/credibility/bios/thomas-fahy/

    http://www.comingofthekingdom.org/spain/about-spain/
     
  14. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    I would refer to him as another apostle of Garabandal, similar to Maria S. but I don't believe that he had a strong connection to any of the seers like Maria did. (There are no stupid questions!)

    He lives in the US though, correct? And runs retreats to Garabandal just like Maria, right?

    I see he built a retreat house in Spain.
     
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  15. JAK

    JAK Archangels

    Thank you all for your replies to my questions re Antonio's theories on the Pole Shift and major waves of destruction. What incredibly knowledgeable forum members we have!

    I have begun this post a number of times trying to get the tone right. I had understood that the warning comes when things are at their worst, but my thoughts were around war, economic upheaval, worsening civil unrest. I can explain these things to friends and family, as much as these are horrific to contemplate. I find it harder to broach the fact that there is a massive planet on its way, so for now I'm leaving this one to one side.

    It does seem incredible that we are weeks away from this event, if Antonio is correct.
     
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  16. Carol55

    Carol55 Ave Maria

    JAK, Take a look at the video of Antonio Yague here: http://motheofgod.com/threads/military-build-up-between-west-and-russia.9312/#post-134514 He has the Gog/Magog invasion beginning on 8/24/16, maybe we will all feel better if this prediction does not happen (9 days away), in other words, if he is wrong here maybe he will also be wrong about the huge destruction coming to us this November. Personally it is too much for me to swallow at the moment and I am definitely not telling family/friends at this point.

    PS - I guess the pope would also need to go to Moscow within the next 8 days also because I think Antonio Yague is referring to this as the hostilities in Europe. I don't think his video includes Spain directly though. (I need to watch the whole thing again.)
     
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  17. JAK

    JAK Archangels

    Thanks C55.
    Nine days. Time for a novena.
     
  18. djmoforegon

    djmoforegon Powers

    Thank you ETA and Carol55. This helps a lot.

    I had met Maria S on a visit to a parish close to home. I will be looking at the sites that ETA posted. All of the members of this forum have a wealth of information that is so freely shared. We are truly blessed.
     
  19. Isn't there a possibility that Russia begins what leads up to the Communist invasion into Europe and the Pope travels to Moscow after the initial actions get going...on a peace mission to attempt to put some kind of halt on the progression of the violence. But the temptation of an already easy opening for further advancement is beyond stoppage. Then after such an attempt by the Pope it becomes just too dangerous for him to exist openly in Rome....IF he is even allowed to return and possibly has to flee elsewhere, and such danger then also involves Benedict, still housed at the Vatican. Then this Russian Communist oppression/control within Europe continues until the Warning arrives to put the kabbash on the chaos. Such an invasion (probably around the same time will occur the attack against Israel as well....as stated by the Jewish young man's, Natan's, info from his NDE...which won't last long either) is said to not last that long.....perhaps only a few months (which of course will seem like a lifetime to those undergoing such massive attack...possibly including some types of nukes) before the predicted Warning. There are many articles of just the past couple of days re: major Russian movement, including a type of planning for expected use of nuclear weapons....so there is a possibility of the "beginnings" coming soon!

    Russia Building New Underground Nuclear Command Posts
    U.S. intelligence detects dozens of hardened bunkers for leaders

    http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russia-building-new-underground-nuclear-command-posts/

    Disclosure of the underground command bunkers comes as Army Gen. Curtis Scaparrotti, commander of U.S. European Command, warned recently that Russia has adopted a nuclear use doctrine he called “alarming.”

    “It is clear that Russia is modernizing its strategic forces,” Scaparrotti told a conference sponsored by the U.S. Strategic Command.

    “Russian doctrine states that tactical nuclear weapons may be used in a conventional response scenario,” Scaparrotti said on July 27. “This is alarming and it underscores why our country’s nuclear forces and NATO’s continues to be a vital component of our deterrence.”

    Mark Schneider, a former Pentagon nuclear policy official, said Russia’s new national security strategy, which was made public in December, discusses increasing civil defenses against nuclear attack, an indication Moscow is preparing for nuclear war.

    “Russia is getting ready for a big war which they assume will go nuclear, with them launching the first attacks,” said Schneider, now with the National Institute for Public Policy, a Virginia-based think tank.

    “We are not serious about preparing for a big war, much less a nuclear war,” he added.

    Additionally, Russian officials have been issuing nuclear threats.

    “A lot of things they say they are doing relate to nuclear threats and nuclear warfighting,” he said. “Active and passive defense were a major Soviet priority and [current Russian leaders] are Soviets in everything but name.”

    Russia is engaged in a major buildup of strategic nuclear forces, building new missiles, submarines, and bombers. A State Department report on Russian activities under the New START arms treaty stated in the spring that Moscowadded 153 strategic nuclear warheads to its arsenal under the treaty.


    If we should be so blessed so as not to have this year be that "even year" necessary for the Garabandal predictions...then there would be at least a breather room until the next even year....something at least to hope for.
     
  20. P.S. Also Putin's most recent efforts to "patch things up" with Erdogan of Turkey shows Erdogan's willingness to punt to the East while attempting to dangle a wish to still stay connected somehow with NATO. This alliance with Russia, energy and all, can be THE pathway for the predicted Russia/Arab type of joined attack against Europe as predicted and demonstrated by Mr. Yague in his various maps and charts on his MaGog video.
     

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