Ron De Santis formally announces presidential run.

And the Proof the election was stolen, in core numbers, is? Trump's say-so? Where are the hard numbers? Why did his own Judges throw the cases out?

"Reminder from 2016: Donald Trump claimed Ted Cruz "stole" the Iowa Caucuses after losing to Cruz there
"Trump accuses Cruz of ‘fraud,’ calls for new Iowa election

By NICK GASS

Updated: 02/03/2016 05:13 PM EST

Donald Trump’s moment of humility didn’t last long. The billionaire businessman, still licking his wounds after a decisive loss in Iowa on Monday, is now crying foul, accusing Ted Cruz of stealing the election and calling for a do-over.

After congratulating Cruz during his concession speech on Monday night, Trump took to Twitter on Wednesday morning to make the case for why his loss was a crock.

“Ted Cruz didn’t win Iowa, he illegally stole it. That is why all of the polls were so wrong any [sic] why he got more votes than anticipated. Bad!” Trump tweeted Wednesday morning. The tweet disappeared within minutes of posting and was replaced by with another that no longer included the word “illegally.”

He followed up with an ultimatum: “Based on the fraud committed by Senator Ted Cruz during the Iowa Caucus, either a new election should take place or Cruz results nullified,” he tweeted. Trump said later Wednesday that he’ll likely sue. “I probably will; what he did is unthinkable,” he said during an interview with Boston Herald Radio."

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/trump-cruz-stole-iowa-tweet-deleted-218674

Trump is the Boy who cried wolf once too often. Trump always claims someone else "cheated" when he loses - it's always someone else's fault, you see. Never his. And it's enough for he and some of his Trumpian Supporters to start chanting "Hang Mike Pence" yet all the while being unable to prove in a Court of Law - even with Judges appointed by Trump - that the 6 Million votes or so he lost by were all allegedly "fradulent" in sufficient numbers for him to win by. Donald Trump was always going to tell you his opponents cheated whether he lost by 6 MN or 16 MN. That was a foregone conclusion.

 

Trump is a Liar. He knowingly lies about Governor De Santis allegedly going to drop out, just like he lied about Cruz allegedly cheating. What is sad is so many Trumpians believe his lies. Trump thinks he can remake the Republican Party in his own image, unmoored from Conservative Principles, but into his own Personality Cult. There was a poll that showed large majorities of those who opposed draconian Covid Restrictions in Principle like Governor De Santis rightly did would then turn around and be ok with it if they found out Trump did it. This is a Personality Cult devoid of substance and Principle.

"TOPLINE

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’ spokesperson denied a rumor from former President Donald Trump that DeSantis could drop out of the presidential race and run for Senate instead, days after the GOP presidential debate exceeded viewership expectations—even as Trump sat out the event, suggesting that GOP voters could be looking for an alternative candidate."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarado...p-out-of-presidential-race-to-run-for-senate/

Why would De Santis drop out all of a sudden? And De Santis already is Governor of Florida, and doing that job amazingly well. Trump lies again.

 

Reminder: In Dec 2022, Governor Ron De Santis was CRUSHING Trump by 23 Points

"In a new poll regarding potential Republican nominees for president in 2024, the Florida governor, Ron DeSantis, led Donald Trump by 23 points." https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...takes-huge-lead-over-trump-in-republican-poll

The only reason De Santis' measurable support declined a bit is because (1) De Santis was too focused on the Actual Hard Work of Governing rather than enjoying himself doing nothing or just campaigning - you know, like Trump raising the Debt by 8 TN Dollars, while De Santis ran Record Budget Surpluses - that Governing. (2) And because, the Press started their fake narrative that De Santis could not win. And also (3) because Trump attacked De Santis, but De Santis mistakenly didn't Punch Back (later he did) initially. I'd have advised him to. Good to see that of late he has begun to. He has to.

Just wait and watch. Let the Debates pass and let's see how the candidates do. By Dec 2023, De Santis could well be leading again.

That was his Excellent Record delivering Budget Surpluses, fighting the Woke Left, being Pro-Life, Anti-Fauci, Pro-Freedom etc that gained that 23 point lead.

3-4 Months of Hard Work Campaigning and Governing, and Excellent Debate Performances, and De Santis could well be in the lead again, as he was last December, by this December.

 

As they say in USA wake up and smell the coffee. Everyone knows electoral fraud was and is widespread.

https://amgreatness.com/2020/11/09/on-electoral-fraud-in-2020/

In the North of Ireland here even the dead got to vote for one political party. In your country unknown absentee voters got the same privilege.

You keep putting your faith in the democratic system and politics and the machinations of men. Fair play to you.

 

https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/...ack-to-god-according-to-prediction-from-1980/

 

We have a thread here on MOG about this topic. I’m unable to link it. Tom Zimmer
received the prophecy in my above-mentioned link.

 

https://motheofgod.com/threads/hermit-of-loretos-1980s-premonition-about-president-trump.10324/

 

Thanks, Jason!

 

"Everyone knows" is not an Argument, is not a Number, and is not Proof. I deny it. Why did Trump claim Cruz cheated and "illegally" "stole" Iowa.

And neither is one person's opinion in some private revelation in the 1980s proof. At most it means God could have used Trump if Trump had chosen greater faithfulness to Him. One poster in this thread said she had a dream that God began to reject Trump after Trump promoted Faucism during Covid.

"But Samuel said to him, “I will not go back with you. You have rejected the word of the LORD, and the LORD has rejected you as king over Israel!”

That's Samuel 15:26. That verse could apply to Trump. Trump thinks he can promote anything and everything and yet everyone should be "loyal" to him.

And this could apply to De Santis: "After removing Saul, he made David their king. God testified concerning him: ‘I have found David son of Jesse, a man after my own heart; he will do everything I want him to do.’" (Acts 13:22). The business of a king or president is to do all what God wants him to do.

Trump did not do that. It's a safer bet and more likely that a President De Santis will, given Governor De Santis' Personal Life and also his Past Record.

 

The Triumph of the Immaculate Heart could really and seriously begin with a De Santis Presidency. It's that important. As I mentioned in other threads, Russia, Africa et al are angry with the US for promoting LGBT, Abortion, Sodomy, Genital Mutilation etc. Under a President De Santis, that stops forever.

 

It stops “forever”???? That might be an empty campaign promise. We just don’t know.

 

Xavier, are you a US Citizen in India? I see in many of your statements on Trump it is exactly what the media says. You quoted exactly what they do about election fraud when it comes to trump lost all challenges. Trump didn't lose in court in a trial, he lost by judges not letting him bring his case and evidence to trial. You can't claim no election fraud based on what happened in court. Pretty hard to prove your case when a judge won't let evidence come to trial. People who deny election fraud I feel truly just don't want to believe that a system is corrupt. The system has been beyond corrupt. It doesn't take much to go back in history and research Diebold machines and a company that basically went private and sold all their technology to Dominion. It also doesn't take much to see the easy figures that show fraud from 2020. In most elections the number of ballots that get thrown out for various reasons is usually about 10% In the 2020 election, that number was below 1%. How can that be possible. Also how can it be possible when mail in ballots increased by 4 times. The margin of error should have gone up not down to virtually zero. We will finally get to see evidence come in these trials and that should be eye opening.

 

True.
People in Germany were seeing that Trump won. My husband and I stayed up late and saw that Trump was winning.

 

Xavier,

I am not convinced that a DeSantis victory would achieve the outcomes we desire. Will it stymie, in part, the agenda of the Deep State. Yes, but a turnaround will only occur by a massive return to God. The Deep State is orchestrated by the Evil One and acts outside of any direct connection to a political party. Why has Trump had everything but the kitchen sink thrown at him? Because he threatens the Deep State. I don't believe similar tentacles exist in Florida. I am unsure that DeSantis has the thick skin which Trump has which the Donald demonstrated at the UN.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Trump's+speech+to+the+UN#fpstate=

Come Lord Jesus!

 

At the end of the day, I think we need to try to understand politicians and their views by doing our own research. The media can't be trusted. I also feel the politics conversations occurring here in our Mother's living room, may not be the best course of actions to take. Politics can always be a heated discussion and does that discussion produce any good fruit? I plan to refrain from further comments, but alas I am human and we humans tend to fail miserably, often lol.

 

Just passing through. On my phone.

Ok, Mario. Fair Enough, but I disagree. I think De Santis has shown Great Guts in fighting the Deep State already when for e.g. he bucked them during Covid time, when Trump caved to Fauci and called himself "Father of the Vaccine". Also, on the Moral Issues, Governor De Santis is unmatched, whether with 6 week Heartbeat Bill's, or fighting the Woke Agenda at great cost. That's why Franklin Graham praised him. I wish it was Catholics doing it.

As for the UN, a strong Pro-Life US President should try to turn it in a Pro-Life Direction. It should also focus on trying to prevent the Greatest Ongoing Global Genocide of 360 MN Christians being Persecuted around the world. I mention this on my site, will give the link later. Open Doors and Vatican News have reported on its, but the UN has hardly taken it up. A strong Christian Pro-Life US President could certainly put pressure on the UN to focus on these important goals.

Just saw this on National Review. Not per se favorable to De Santis, whom they still criticize on this or that, but even they recognize he's doing better than expected.

"Lowry: So you’re like 50 percent on Trump’s chances now?

Rothman: I think he’s 45 percent. I’ve said I take the field, and I still take the field.

Lowry: That’s bold. MBD?

Michael Brendan Dougherty: I’m totally with Noah. I think DeSantis is either 40 or 45 percent for the nomination. I think Trump is 40 percent.

Lowry: You think DeSantis has a higher chance of winning than Trump?


Dougherty: Yeah, I think, Trump’s indictments weigh on him. I think that there is just air coming out of the Trump balloon. I think that Iowa and New Hampshire are determined to give someone a ride up, to give Trump a real challenge. And once that happens, I really think all bets are off and all of Trump’s downsides start weighing on the Republican voter. I do believe in some kind of inherent value that it’s not just an illusion created by the willfulness of Republican sentiment — Republican sentiment does follow the news and does have some relationship to who are the strongest candidates. And so I would rather be DeSantis right now, when you have his money and his organization, and now any rise is going to create a comeback storyline.

Lowry: Right. Noah wrote about that.

Rothman: I wrote that, yes, because the press has set so absurdly low expectations for him that they’re not hard to meet.

Dougherty: Right, and it’s just like, and not only that, but like, in effect, he’s already surpassed them because . . .

Lowry: He’s survived.

Dougherty: He’s survived, and the polls say that 85 percent of people in Iowa who say they support Trump in the race, say they’re considering supporting DeSantis.

Lowry: Yeah, one way to look at it is, “Did DeSantis live up to the hype?” No, he definitely did not. But has he showed that he can take a punch? Yeah, in the sense that, especially in Iowa, he’s still quite popular and he still has a lot of voters considering him. I still think you guys are high. I would say it’s about 20 percent because in Iowa, even if you get DeSantis or someone else getting some pickup, it could still be a multi-car pile-up that could favor Trump."

 

Thank you for posting those excerpts from the interview, Xavier!

 

I bet they still haven't solved the question why do the the election machines stopped counting votes in the crucial Battleground States for several days? Who are the culprits? The Deep State will do it again in 2024 if it will be a close fight.

 

Tucker Carlson on Trump: "If you begin with criticism, then you go to protest, then you go to impeachment, now to indictment, and none of them work, what's next? We are speeding towards assassination obviously - they have decided that there's something about Trump that's so threatening to them, they just can't have it. I've never been this worried as I am about where this is going. "

 

Bro needs to cross the rubicon before he needs to worry about the ides of March.