Putin, well intended or not ?

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by Elisa, Mar 24, 2014.

  1. kathy k

    kathy k Guest

    There is no better path than living in the Divine Will. It's not even a devotion - it is a mindful attentiveness to asking Jesus to do everything in us, so that I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. Luisa's writings just give practical helps to doing what we are all called to do.

    St. Hannibal Di Francia, Luisa's confessor and publisher of the first volumes of her work, was proclaimed a Saint by John Paul II on May 16, 2004.

    I encourage anyone who has a negative opinion about this way of life to read more about it. But if you are not inclined to learn more about it, then I think it would be better to keep silent than to disparage what I believe is the greatest help the Lord has given us in these dark times.
     
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  2. Frodo

    Frodo Guest

    :eek: My intention was not to disparage but to bring up the moratorium on her writings and point out that we have proven devotions we can rely on. I will be happy to read this devotion when approval to do so is given.

    http://luisapiccarreta.co/?page_id=9643

    ARCHBISHOP MONS. G.B. PICHIERRI:

    "Nevertheless, I must mention the growing and unchecked flood of transcriptions, translations and publications both through print and the internet. At any rate, “seeing the delicacy of the current phase of the proceedings, any and publication of the writings is absolutely forbidden at this time. Anyone who acts against this is disobedient and greatly harms the cause of the Servant of God. (Communication of May 30, 2008). All effort must be invested in avoiding all “leaks” of publications of any kind."
     
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  3. garabandal

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    Don't know anything about Luisa or her writings but I have been trying to live in the Divine Will of God for the last ten years since he kicked my behind!!

    'Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven'.

    We pray the our Father every day for the Divine will of God to be done.

    Cannot for the life see why Catholics would not want to live in the Divine Will of God?
     
  4. picadillo

    picadillo Guest

    My last post on this topic is this video that describes who is going for world domination (hint: it isn't Putin):

     
  5. Fatima

    Fatima Guest

    picadillo, I guess I will never understand your love for Putin's actions. He has put on quit a show for some. He is still a brutal dictator that looks to dominate. That is why he started with an easy target and now has his guns set on a little bigger one in the larger population within the Ukraine. You will see, but it will be to late.
     
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  6. Fatima

    Fatima Guest

    garabandal, yes! You get it! It is not a person (Luisa and her writings) that are in question, it is exactly as you say in doing His will on earth as it is in heaven. She was just one person God used to spread this truth and live it.
     
  7. Fatima

    Fatima Guest

    Frodo, living in the Divine Will is not a 'devotion' it is a way of life. Living in the Divine Will is quite the opposite of relying on ones own self, it is giving everything over to God.... even our discernment through prayerful contemplative habits, where the Holy Spirit gives understanding.
     
  8. Elisa

    Elisa Powers

    As Conchita said this: "When Russia will unexpectedly and suddenly overrun and overwhelm a great part of the free world", I suppose this has to be taken as a prophetic message and therefore cannot be changed anymore by our prayers (?). In this case, we can stop hoping that Putin has good intentions.... Or am I wrong, Glenn ?
     
  9. Mac

    Mac Guest

    A most interesting question Elisa. While other prophecy are conditional , Garabandal is 'fixed' no matter what . How does this sit with others ?
     
  10. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    I think all prophecy is conditional but God knows the future with absolute certainty. When the Garabandal events began in 1961 the message was the 'cup was filling up' and by the time they finished in 1965 'the cup was overflowing'.

    And the world continues on the road to perdition. There is no sign of repentance rather hearts have hardened and the world is worse than the time of Noah when the world was purified by water. In these days God has sent a Mother, the Blessed Virgin, to call us back - who is listening and responding? Since the world is not responding then there will be another purification but this time by fire. We have been warned.

    AKITA
    "As I told you, if men do not repent and better themselves, the Father will inflict a terrible punishment on all humanity. It will be a punishment greater than the deluge, such as one will never have seen before.
     
  11. Elisa

    Elisa Powers

    Yes, one thing is true: the world is getting worse.... But, fortunately, there are also "lights" and a lot of conversions, even among Muslims.
     
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  12. Mac

    Mac Guest

    With Garabandal ,the Chastisement is conditional, if man responds to the warning and miracle.

    The miracle date is not conditional.It is fixed.

    While in 1962 Good Pope John was not interested in the truth..."to us it seems necessary to disagree with these prophets of doom who are forever forecasting calamity, almost as if the world's end were imminent." Thus rejecting Fatima, and while more gloom was being given in Garabandal.

    Time will tell.
     
  13. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    This time of mercy will not last forever. I am afraid I sound like and Old Testament prophet of doom and see very little light especially in the western world. Darkness has come to reign. Sin is justified and promoted as a right. Good is called evil and evil is called good. There has been no time in history like this.

    I am afraid we have come to accept sin far too readily because the 'loss of the sense of sin' is the great tragedy of the last one hundred years. If sin is justified then what chance the little ones? Our Godless civilization has abandoned its Christian heritage and embraced paganism. The sin of abortion alone calls for the justice of God. This human sacrifice on an unprecedented scale in the last forty years is none other than a blood sacrifice of the innocents who have no voice. This silent holocaust masked as reproductive rights is carried out on an industrial scale throughout the world and here I am only mentioning surgical abortions. On top of this are the pharmaceutical abortifacient drugs that induce abortion at an earlier stage and we have an attack on the very foundations of human life in what John Paul II called the culture of death. And of course this is directly linked to sexual sins and impurity which is promoted by the mainstream media as propaganda. The attack on marriage and family has led to the very undermining of the fabric of society. I see in all of this a very diabolical plan for in the destruction of family and marriage, the very attack on human life from conception, the promotion of euthanasia and other attacks on life have only one source. he hates man for man is made in the image and likeness of God. And the Word became flesh and sacrificed Himself for us on the Tree of Life, to draw all men to Himself. But is sin persists there no longer remains a sacrifice for sin (Hebrews 10: 26) and we will know only judgement.

    http://www.worldometers.info/abortions/

    We do not know to the depths which we have fallen. Like the goldfish gently simmering to boiling point we have allowed sin to saturate our culture and infect all of our lives. Darkness reigns and only light can scatter the darkness. No wonder the Warning has been called the Illumination and described as two stars colliding for it is the very light of God that will penetrate through the miasma of sin.

    Matthew 17 v22
    There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light.

    Acts 9v3
    As he neared Damascus on his journey, suddenly a light from heaven flashed around him.

    I think it was you Americans that came up with the phrase 'Wake up and smell the coffee'? We Christians need to wake up and smell the stench of sin. It is the saints in heaven who are crying out for the justice of God.

    Forgive me for quoting a protestant pastor but this is spot on (Billy Graham)
    "Some years ago, my wife, Ruth, was reading the draft of a book I was writing. When she finished a section describing the terrible downward spiral of our nation’s moral standards and the idolatry of worshiping false gods such as technology and sex, she startled me by exclaiming, “If God doesn’t punish America, He’ll have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah.

    Closer to home - I would ask you to read and reflect on this message from Medjugorje - Why is our Lady's heart seized with pain?

    October 2, 2009 Medjugorje
    "Dear children! As I look at you, my heart seizes with pain. Where are you going my children? Have you sunk so deeply into sin that you do not know how to stop yourself? You justify yourselves with sin and live according to it. Kneel down beneath the Cross and look at my Son. He conquered sin and died so that you, my children, may live. Permit me to help you not to die but to live with my Son forever. Thank you."
     
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  14. padraig

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  16. Torrentum

    Torrentum Guest

    What's just happened today is worrying me more than what happened in crimea. The same mysyerious appearance of well trained, well armed, unidentified and unidentifiable 'local defense forces' dismembering a nation. Shocking.
     
  17. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Looks like the same strategy being employed all right!
     
  18. Fatima

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