Putin, well intended or not ?

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by Elisa, Mar 24, 2014.

  1. Torrentum

    Torrentum Guest

    Peter, I honestly thought this was a parody twitter account. Its appears to be real.
    I'm speechless.
     
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  2. UGGG!
    I looked at the 42 people or organizations he follows and one of them is:

    [​IMG]Alix Rivera @AdultCancun
    Adult entertainer in Cancun & Riviera Maya. Adult Massage Adult Services.

    LOL--WHAT A SHLUMP! (don't ask me what that means)
     
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  3. Indy

    Indy Praying

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  4. padraig

    padraig New Member

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  5. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Your maps are a reinforcing image of what we already know!:(

    Safe in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary!
     
  6. padraig

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  7. padraig

    padraig New Member

    The photos below show atrocities by Ukrainian Nationalists/ Fascists. Don't look at them unless you have very strong stomach.


    New evidence about massacre in Union House Odessa.

    It is becoming apparent that Ukrainian nationalists were already inside the building laying in waiting for pro-Russian Odessites to run there for shelter when Ukr. Nazis attacked their camp.

    The only people who could have climbed on a roof were those who were given the keys to heavy steel gates leading there; you can also see red arm bands on them and Molotov cocktails next to them.

    http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/frallik/12164489/875995/875995_original.jpg

    On the bottom photo you can see a man with St George's Ribbon calmly standing among those who were attacking pro-Russian activists. Why he was so calm? Because he was one of the attackers.

    When people run into the building, they were met by the nationalists who set on fire the barricaded exits. Completely burned bodies were found only on the ground floor and half way up the stairs leading to the first floor.
    On this photo the wooden railings, barricade of chairs and panelling are not burned, but the bodies are

    http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/frallik/12164489/869909/869909_original.jpg

    On this photo one of the bodies displays a bullet wound to the head, while the other body was clearly dragged along the floor. Neither are burned.

    http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/frallik/12164489/872760/872760_original.jpg

    On these bodies only heads, shoulders and hands are burned. They were doused with flammable liquid and set on fire when they were already on the floor.

    http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/frallik/12164489/876171/876171_original.jpg
    http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/frallik/12164489/875223/875223_original.jpg

    This couple had their necks broken

    http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/frallik/12164489/871114/871114_original.jpg

    This woman was raped before set on fire

    http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/frallik/12164489/871334/871334_original.jpg

    This PREGNANT woman was strangled with a cord by the person visible in the window

    http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/frallik/12164489/873896/873896_original.jpg
    http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/frallik/12164489/874312/874312_original.jpg
     
  8. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    My God. Such unspeakable cruelty. I could only stomach one or two photos but these poor people were definitely tortured before being burnt to death. Feels like Rwanda all over but on a smaller scale at the moment.

    I really hope God's Justice comes soon in order to eradicate evil from this generation.

    In fact I would go as far to say I would prefer God's Justice to His Mercy at this time. I see Justice as a form of Mercy for those of us who hate to see sin and evil reign.

    But given what we know from prophecy we can expect Rwanda style massacres in Europe before the Warning.
     
  9. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Amazing - Mark Mallett appears to have a teaching for every occasion!

    http://www.markmallett.com/blog/never-give-up-on-a-soul/#more-15166
     
  10. You have to look at the spiritual background of Putin: Alexsander Dugin, Eurasianism, Julius Evola, Imperialism etc.. It does not smell good
     
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  11. Clare A

    Clare A Archangels

    From Today's UK Daily Telegraph [I have edited it to show relevance to this thread]:

    Vladimir Putin is possessed by Satan and faces eternal damnation unless he repents, the head of Ukraine's Orthodox Church has claimed in a statement titled "New Cain".

    Patriarch Filaret issued a statement accusing the Russian leader of trying to "incite bloodshed and killings" in eastern Ukraine.

    "With great regret I must now say publicly that among the rulers of this world ... there has appeared a new Cain, not by his name but by his deeds," he said

    "Like the first fratricide of history Cain, these deeds show that the aforementioned ruler has fallen under the action of Satan," he said in the statement, published on the patriarchate's website in Ukrainian, Russian and English.

    "But it seems that he remains deaf to these calls and only multiplies evil because he, like Judas Iscariot, has become possessed by Satan."

    Patriarch Filaret added there was still hope for Mr Putin.

    "However, relying on God's mercy to all sinners, yet we maintain hope on repentance of this ruler and refer to him the call of millions of people: Stop, cease the multiplication of lies and murder, come to your senses!", the statement says.

    The complete article is at: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...sed-by-Satan-and-faces-eternal-damnation.html
     
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  12. davidtlig

    davidtlig Guest

    And yet we have:

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/02/08/uk-russia-putin-religion-idUKTRE81722Y20120208

    Russian patriarch calls Putin era "miracle of God"
    BYGLEB BRYANSKI

    MOSCOWWed Feb 8, 2012 8:12pm GMT


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    Russia's Prime Minister Vladimir Putin (2nd R) sits with Supreme Mufti of Russia Talgat Tadzhuddin (R), Metropolitan Juvenaly of Krutitsy and Kolomna (L) and Russian Orthodox Patriarch Kirill during his meeting with religious leaders at the Danilov Monastery in Moscow February 8, 2012.


    I think the moral to be learned from these different viewpoints is to follow Jesus' advice and avoid judging. Both the Russian and Ukranian Patriarchs are making judgements influenced by their own national interests.
     
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  13. picadillo

    picadillo Powers


    This is also a big theme of Pope Francis:


    Pope: Judging others kills, reflects cowardice in facing own defects

    By Carol Glatz
    Catholic News Service

    VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- People who judge and criticize others are hypocrites and cowards who are unable to face their own defects, Pope Francis said.

    Gossip, too, is "criminal" as it destroys, rather than exalts the image of God present in others, he said in his early morning homily Sept. 13 at his residence of Domus Sanctae Marthae.

    "Those who live judging their neighbors, speaking badly of them, are hypocrites because they don't have the strength, the courage to look at their own defects," he said.

    "Why do you notice the splinter in your brother's eye, but do not perceive the wooden beam in your own," he said, referring to the day's Gospel reading according to St. Luke.

    Every time "we judge our brothers and sisters in our heart, and worse, when we talk about it with others, we are killer Christians," imitating Cain who committed "the first homicide in history."

    Gossip, too, has "this dimension of criminality" because there is no such thing as "innocent gossip," he said. "If one of us gossips, certainly he is a persecutor, someone violent."

    St. James the Apostle said the tongue is for praising God, "but when we use our tongue to speak badly of our brother or sister, we use it to kill God," he said, killing "the image of God in our brother."

    Instead, people need to pray and do penance for others and, he said, "if it's necessary, speak to the person who can solve the problem. Don't tell everybody about it."

    People need "a gesture of conversion," he said, because just as St. Paul was "a blasphemer and a persecutor and an arrogant man" he was "mercifully treated."

    The pope asked people to pray for "the grace of conversion from the criminality of gossip to love, humility, meekness, gentleness and the magnanimity of love toward the other."
     
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  14. davidtlig

    davidtlig Guest

    I have continued to be sceptical about the West's attitude to Putin in recent months. However, I've just watched a BBC Panorama special on Putin and the Ukraine situation and, for the first time, I am beginning to believe that what is happening is very dangerous for the world. The program did not try to demonize Putin but did attempt to analyse what he was actually doing. They had good people giving their comments and the program, convincingly for me, portayed Putin variously as a gambler, poker player but crucially an emotional supporter of great Russia. One of the more important people they had on was a close advisor to Putin for many years up until, I think, 2011. He knew Putin well and his closing remarks were chilling because he quoted (or an approximation of it!) the famous quote, "The lamps are going out all over Europe, we shall not see them lit again in our life-time". I think we have always to remember that there was no evil ruler that led the world into the first World War. It happened because of a sequence of reactions to events....
     
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  15. miker

    miker Powers

    So when a Russian general (Gen. Yuri Yakubov), a senior Defense Ministry official, was quoted by the state-run Interfax news agency as saying that Russia’s 2010 military doctrine should be revised to identify the United States and the NATO alliance as enemies, and clearly outline the conditions for a preemptive nuclear strike against them we should not question the motives or potential evil influences of Mr. Putin? This is extremely troubling and while I certainly would not say he is or is not possessed, it raises questions.

    http://freebeacon.com/national-secu...canada-practice-cruise-missile-strikes-on-us/
     
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  16. Fatima

    Fatima Powers

    There has been much written on Putin's legacy of evil and deceit. What could anyone provide that would give a reasonable amount of confidence that Putin is now a nice guy, or a reformed man? I am not the least bit convinced that him wearing a cross or sucking up to the OC in Russia is a solid reference in his favor.
     
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  17. davidtlig

    davidtlig Guest

    Here is a link to the BBC program I referred to earlier.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04j2pjj/panorama-putins-gamble

    However, I'm not sure if the video will be playable outside the UK. I think it could have usefully been expanded into an hour long documentary as it contains some very good interviews within it but only short extracts are shown.

    In case my earlier posting was not clear, this program has changed my perseption of Putin. It has changed my view of what is actually happening in Eastern Ukraine. However, I believe it is a mistake to spend time trying to judge how good or evil Putin is. The West's response to Putin will determine whether the situation will get worse or not.

    When the West decided to invade Iraq and depose Sadam Hussein, they began a process which has led to countless lives lost, unbelievable destruction and suffering, and problems which continue to increase. Despite the nature of Sadam, the West made a terrible mistake when it invaded Iraq. Whatever the West now does with regard to Putin, it is almost guaranteed to lead to more destruction and suffering because its approach takes no account of God or His Laws.
     
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  18. MMM

    MMM Guest

    erased comment......lol
     
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  19. Peter B

    Peter B Powers

    Thanks for alerting us to this video, David, which for viewers outside the UK can be seen at

    I've just watched it and the general picture it gives corresponds very closely to what the Eastern European sources have been telling us for some while now. What gives the documentary weight is both the quality of the detailed, sober reporting and the interviews with Russian opposition figures (who, as I tried to say on another thread, are a crucial channel of information).
     
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  20. Peter B

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