Putin, well intended or not ?

Discussion in 'The Signs of the Times' started by Elisa, Mar 24, 2014.

  1. picadillo

    picadillo Guest

    Better than pro-west.
     
  2. padraig

    padraig Powers

    The only thing about a French commentator is that they tend to be very anti American. I am not saying he might be wrong, its just that there is a certain...well he is coming from this standpoint. This is especially true of French rightists, Gaulists, which I suspect Aviso might be, a word to the wise.
    Also I am uncertain were the politicising of Marian messages might take us.

    http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/723682.html
     
  3. jerry

    jerry Guest

    Thank you padraig for that link. There is so much I do not know. French anti americanism new to me.
     
  4. Timothius722

    Timothius722 Archangels

    I think the threat is purposely overplayed by the deceiving Western Media...but if Russia was to have eastern Ukraine and eastern Ukrainians are ok with it and a peaceful resolution can be worked out...why not? After all...the former President of Ukraine was officially and democratically voted into office...only when he got cozy with the Russians did the New World Order Illuminist instigate a "Revolution" in Ukraine.

    I believe we have been deceived by Western News outlets whose only function is to advance the New World Order and their agenda.
    I believe history may show we are on the wrong side of things...that yes...Russia played a major role in frustrating the plans of the Illuminati.
    Proof...who was it that defeated the illumnist plans for Syria...Russia.
    Proof...Russia is trying to break the grip of the Illuminati's currency...the Petro Dollar

    Do I believe the Russians are the good guys...no...do I believe them to better than the corrupted and criminal US government...maybe? Do I believe God is using Russia as a tool against the Masonic/Satanic West...yes.
     
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  5. padraig

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    Yes but in a sense none of this matters. Who or what caused it. I think what will count is our prayers and God's intervention in answer to our prayers.

    The only answer, as usual, as Mary told us, is the rosary and fasting.


    "The best fast is on bread and water. Through fasting and prayer one can stop wars, one can suspend the natural laws of nature. Works of charity cannot replace fasting... Everyone except the sick, has to fast." (July 21, 1982)


    "Dear children! Today also I invite you to prayer. Only by prayer and fasting can war be stopped. Therefore, my dear little children, pray and by your life give witness that you are mine and that you belong to me, because Satan wishes in these turbulent days to seduce as many souls as possible. Therefore, I invite you to decide for God and He will protect you and show you what you should do and which path to take. I invite all those who have said "yes" to me to renew their consecration to my Son Jesus and to His Heart and to me so we can take you more intensely as instruments of peace in this unpeaceful world. Medjugorje is a sign to all of you and a call to pray and live the days of grace that God is giving you. Therefore, dear children, accept the call to prayer with seriousness. I am with you and your suffering is also mine. Thank you for having responded to my call." April 25, 1992

    Pray, pray, pray.
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  6. picadillo

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    Better than pro-west.
    You "hit the nail on the head!" The illuminati control the banks who control the media here in the west. They need a war to cover-up the collapse of the western economies after they raped them for everything they had.
     
  7. Fatima

    Fatima Guest

    The control of money is not a 'western' ideology. It is a global elitist ideology shared by all country leaders and not a few within them. You think for a minute that Putin is not gold happy? The love of money is not an inclusive goal of the elite in the US or the West. The love of money is not the only evil in the world. The evil of sin comes in many forms and war is one of its effects as well. What is the main principle that the illuminati and Marxism share? Well the highest principle of both ideologies is the absence of the One true God. That is what Russia's founded communism shares with the illuminati. The absence of God (the 1st and greatest commandment) is what they both share. Keep in mind that the battle being fought is not of human origin, but a spiritual one. Good angles against bad angels. Evil vs. good. Darkness vs. light. The illuminati and communism are one and the same.
     
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  8. Fatima

    Fatima Guest

    You said, "Do I believe God is using Russia as a tool against the Masonic/Satanic West...yes." I could not disagree with you more. God is not using Russia, Satan is! God does not plot country against country, sin does. My God is a God of love, not evil.
     
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  9. picadillo

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    Fatima,
    I think you have made the huge distinction between the west and Putin. Putin is gold happy, and for a reason, it is real money. The first thing the west did when there was a change in leadership in the Ukraine was to take the country's gold and deliver it to the NY fed. Yes, the same fed Ben Shalom Bernanke who said gold is not money. Ukraine, the first thing they did was to take your gold! They took all of your money! The money of the west is fiat, backed by NOTHING! Putin is about to put his country on the gold standard, you are correct. One system is satanic and the other is Godly. I'll let you figure out which is which.
     
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  13. Torrentum

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    Even though all the talk in the press conferences in Geneva today was of deescalation, Ive just read that russian tanks are moving north in Crimea
     
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  16. Andy3

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  18. Andy3

    Andy3 Powers

    It is but could also be a false flag from the West. Either way it is very serious!
     
  19. Fatima

    Fatima Guest

    This Means War: US To Target Putin's Personal $40 Billion Stash

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    Submitted by Tyler Durden on 04/20/2014

    While the White House has continually threatened further sanctions against Russia for non-de-escalation (even as it un-de-escalates itself), the specifics of the additional sanctions have been sparse. German CEO warnings over blowback from economic sanctions... the "nonsense" of replacing Russian gas with US gas... the Russian warnings of "interdependence" and "boomerangs"... all reduce the West's arsenal of financial sanctions. But, as The Times of London reports, perhaps the US has found a crucial pain point for Putin - a sanctions regime that would target Putin's personal wealth, which includes a reported $40 billion stashed in Swiss bank accounts. (sounds like Putin had a conversion alright. He converted to global greed $$$$$$$$ like the Wall Streeters)

    As The Hill reports,
    The White House on Friday refused to comment on reports that Russian President Vladimir Putin's personal wealth could be targeted if the West were to move ahead with additional sanctions over Ukraine.

    "I'm not going to get into foreshadowing particular individuals or entities that the United States may target," national security adviser Susan Rice told reporters at the White House. "But let me just say we've been clear that there are additional individuals, officials, close associates of senior leadership, oligarchs and those entities that they are associated with that remain very much potential targets of additional sanctions."...

    The Times of London reported Friday that the U.S. was preparing a sanctions regime that would target Putin's personal wealth, which includes a reported $40 billion stashed in Swiss bank accounts.

    Putin's actual holdings are a tightly held secret, and the extent of his holdings are difficult to estimate. But a threat of trying to freeze the Russian president's personal assets could have played a role in a deal brokered Thursday by foreign ministers from the U.S., Ukraine, Russia and European Union.
    Perhaps it is worth remembering Putin's response from last week's Q&A...

    Putin was asked why the US can do whatever it wants and no one punishes them, while attempts are being made to punish Russia. “The US is certainly one of the world’s leaders. At some point it seemed that it was the only leader and a uni-polar system was in place. Today it appears that is not the case. Everything in the world is interdependent and once you try to punish someone, in the end you will cut off your nose to spite your face,” he said.

    Though we are sure Obama and his team have considered all the intended and unintended consequences of any such actions.
     
  20. Fatima

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