Pope Francis

Discussion in 'Prayer requests' started by padraig, Oct 26, 2019.

  1. Seagrace

    Seagrace Archangels

    To me it seems as if Pope Francis did not wish to go before the tombs of these saints as a pope but instead like one of us, broken and in need of help.
     
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  2. Josetxu

    Josetxu Principalities

    Poor pope, poor man. I think he is in his last days. I will pray for him.
     
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  3. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    He has just blessed the 'marriage' of King Charles and his concubine (whose husband is still alive). Do you support this?
     
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  4. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    And there's the not insignificant matter of free will.
     
  5. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    I hope you're right, but I've just read a report in 'The Thinking Housewife' that he has blessed the 'marriage' of King Charles III and his concubine. In other words, he has vindicated Henry VIII, if this is true. I don't know the timeline, but if the visit to the graves of Pope St Pius X and Pope Benedict came after this appalling blessing, there is still hope for him. If the blessing report is true, it's still a terrible slap in the face.

    St Thomas More, pray for us.
     
  6. Josetxu

    Josetxu Principalities

    Charles and Camilla met as young couple and fell in love, but the queen wouldn't let him marry her. So they both married other people, but it wasn't what they wanted.
    King David also committed murder and adultery because he loved Bathsheba, Uriah's wife. He repented of these grave sins, and God forgave him. And from that union was born King Solomon.
     
  7. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    I thought the same thing.
     
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  8. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    You are quoting from the Old Testament.

    Christ elevated marriage to a sacramental union. The disciples were so shocked at his words about marriage, they said it would be better not to marry.

    'And I say to you, that whosoever divorce's his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and he that shall marry her that is put away, committeth adultery'.
     
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  9. Josetxu

    Josetxu Principalities

    Yes, what you say is true. But canon law allows for the annulment of some marriages if certain reasons apply. These are called defects of consent. In the case of Charles and Camilla, it's quite possible that there was a defect of consent. If you can't marry the person you love because they won't let you, there may be a defect of consent. If Pope Francis has blessed that union, that union is valid. It's clear to me.
     
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  10. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Camilla never got an annulment of her Catholic marriage.
     
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  11. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Excuse me if I’m wrong, but isn’t King Charles Anglican?
     
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  12. They were not married in the Catholic Church so it makes no sense to say that it validates the marriage... I cannot even believe what I'm reading.
     
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  13. Head of Anglican Church at the moment. Crazy huh
     
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  14. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Yes.
     
  15. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Henry VIII originally wished to receive an annulment of his marriage with Catherine of Aragon. He didn't get one. According to Garabandal, who is rarely mistaken, Charles's concubine, Camilla, didn't get one either and is therefore still married to her actual husband. You speak of 'love', but maybe Camilla's husband loves her more than Charles does, whose definition of 'love' didn't preclude him from consenting to consort with Diana Spencer. If you, and Bergoglio, are correct in this situation, it's clear to me, all the Irish Catholics who resisted British Protestantism for centuries, to the point of the death of millions, were only fools. To be more precise, John the Baptist lost his head for nothing. 'Love', on this relativist basis, = lust. And there's no point in deluding ourselves otherwise.

    I'm at a loss for any more words.
     
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  16. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Nor I.
     
  17. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Not crazy, at all, in a way. Anglicanism is a crazy sect, with a murderous anti-Catholic history, that was founded in craziness and, not unpredictably, is dying in it. As will Our Lord's Church, if it continues on the Bergoglian path, but I don't think He will allow it. Anglicanism is, ironically, in the process of currently being demographically superseded by Catholicism in England. It is now the 'religion' of those blithely acceptant of women priests and even bishops, of homosexual pastors and even some who are actively homosexually 'married' and whose bishops and theologians are predominantly effectively atheist.
     
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  18. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    For clarification, Laura, 'the Thinking Housewife', elaborated in a comment on her post that Pope Francis didn't directly bless the 'marriage' of Charles III and his mistress, but "expressed his best wishes to Their Majesties on the occasion of their wedding anniversary", which seems to accord recognition of the 'union' and amounts to much the same thing. Ask yourselves, would Jesus Christ have "expressed his best wishes"?
     
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  19. Josetxu

    Josetxu Principalities

    En este foro hay personas que piensan que el papa Francisco siempre se equivoca, y en cambio ellos tienen mas razon que el. Curioso.
     
  20. Mario

    Mario Powers

    I'm speechless. The reason that none of us can judge is that God alone knows fully each individual soul. But the public scandal does great harm.
     

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