Pope Francis

Discussion in 'Prayer requests' started by padraig, Oct 26, 2019.

  1. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I listened to , 'Catholic Unscripted', this morning. They are very,very good, bless them. But I notice that like me they are fraying around the edges now when they speak out about the terrible things that are going on in the Church. It is too much to even think about it has become so dreadful.

    I try not to think about it too much, it is just too upsetting.

    I do however firmly believe that a future Pope will declare Papa Frankie was not Pope and rescind all his decrees etc.

     
  2. AED

    AED Powers

    All of this has played out as Malachi Martin predicted in Windswept House. The Roman Circle and the Sankt Gallen mafia only it was poor BVXI not JPII. Martin's timing was off because we were given the grace of eight more years of a good pope but in the end his prediction of events is so chillingly accurate.
    Remember John Podesta's- email from the Julian Assange reveal? He said something about forcing a new leadership in the Church. In Martin's novel the CIA and various powerful men around the world were working toward this end. Poor Holy Father Benedict. Was he the pope that little Jacinta saw in her vision of " poor little Holy Father"?
     
  3. AED

    AED Powers

    A useful tool is a good way to put it--we must pray for his soul and for the Church. I have been lax in this regard. I've got to kick it into gear.
     
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  4. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Yes, we must pray much for Pope Francis and the Church. And make many sacrifices as St. Jacinta did.
     
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  5. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Ah. John Podesta.
     
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  6. JMJforever

    JMJforever Archangels

    Wow! That's very scary, I've heard of ppl just howling in Medj - the devil hates Holy places.
     
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  7. JMJforever

    JMJforever Archangels

    Amen!!
     
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  8. JMJforever

    JMJforever Archangels

    Pope Francis is having trouble breathing, so I do pray he repents before it's too late. The Pachamama stuff scared me. He brought the occult into the Church. :cry:
     
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  9. JMJforever

    JMJforever Archangels

    Amen!! I'm so tired of the Church being an 'Anything goes kind of Church.' It's also like evil doesn't exist anymore... Everything is good.

    How can we say we truly love someone to look on & see them destroy themselves? It's like seeing the Church at the edge of a cliff & we simply look away?

    Fr Mark Goring said young Catholics want the Truth & nothing but the Truth. They are tired of wokeness. I'm sure they just want normality.

    Even with all the family problems, young ppl know it's not normal, but it's so common now for ppl to live together before marriage, be sexually confused, parents to have extra martial affairs, addictions etc...
     
  10. JMJforever

    JMJforever Archangels

    I think we're all going to find out PF's intentions very soon, God always reveals everything, anyway. PF is on the verge of death, it seems...
     
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  11. karnala

    karnala Archangels

    I just wanted to add more about La Salette, because in this YouTube about the La Salette prophecies, Our Lady also says "Antichrist will be born of a Hebrew nun, a false virgin, who will be in communication with the ancient serpent, master of impurity. His father will be a bishop" .. This is the reason I believe Pope Francis isn't the Antichrist, because he has Italian heritage.

    If you want to know more about the prophecies, the American man reading from this book about the La Salette prophecies, also mentions Our Lady of Good Success & Taylor Marshall. I've also watched him reading the Poem of the Man God on another YouTube channel:

     
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  12. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I don't think Papa Frankie is the anti Christ for what it's worth.

    But just to mention that the La Salette description of the anti Christ is the standard Catholic prophetic one, it comes from numerous ancient sources and so is I believe the correct one. Some Modernist sources claim that the anti Christ is not an actual person. This is wrong, he will be an actual person
     
  13. karnala

    karnala Archangels

    I agree .. there's many scripture verses describing him as a man too.

    Just reading today's Gospel, Mark 7:24-30 "Jesus went to the district of Tyre" ... reminded me of Ezekiel 28 about the Prince of Tyre, which I believe is modern day southern Lebanon city, which was originally an island in the sea. Some believe that the Prince of Tyre was a precursor of Antichrist, because he is associated with the serpent in Eden in Ezekiel 28:13. If so, the whole chapter of Ezekiel 28 gives you an idea of what the rise of Antichrist will be like.

    Refer to: How Alexander Turned The Island of Tyre Into a Peninsula:
    https://www.amusingplanet.com/2020/11/how-alexander-turned-island-of-tyre.html

    v2
    Because you are haughty of heart, you say, “I am a god! I sit on a god’s throne in the heart of the sea!”
    But you are a man, not a god; yet you pretend you are a god at heart...

    v12
    Son of man, raise a lament over the king of Tyre, and say to him: Thus says the Lord GOD:
    You were a seal of perfection, full of wisdom, perfect in beauty.
    13
    In Eden, the garden of God, you lived; etc...​

    I also made a mistake by saying Vincent Sigala has a YouTube channel reading the Poem of the Man God .. because it's Massimo Bozzi that reads Maria Valtorta's writings. They certainly look & sound the same .. but I'm certain it's not AI generated. As long as they're actually reading from authentic Catholic prophecy books, rather than videos about a combination of beliefs which can be misleading.
     
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  14. padraig

    padraig Powers

    There have been many forerunners or types of the anti Christ, for instance.

    King Herod.

    The Emperor Nero.

    Justin the Apostate

    Attila the Hun

    Ghenghis Khan.

    Napoleon

    Hitler

    Joe Stalin

    Mao Tse Tung

    ...and on and on.

    But the person in history who looked closest to what the anti Christ may look like was, I think the Holy Roman Emperor Frederick the Great :

     
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  15. AED

    AED Powers

    Agree.
     
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  16. JMJforever

    JMJforever Archangels

    Yes!! I heard that as well, from Mother of Refuge of The End Times. The anti-Christ will be of Jewish ancestry in order to convert the Jews, that their Messiah has come - this makes sense.
     
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  17. JMJforever

    JMJforever Archangels

    I really love Our Lady of La Salette. She was very specific for these times & the image of her is very beautiful & heartbreaking as she's crying for the sins humanity has committed. :cry::cry::cry:
    At a time of such spiritual rebellion, my heart is broken humanity has made Our Mother cry.
     
  18. PNF

    PNF Archangels

    Yes, Basto. If people will watch the video you posted from 2012, and then read the text from the following dialogue of Bergoglio and Skorka in 2019, maybe they will be able to see the bad guy's plan a little more clearly.

    Bergoglio says in 2019 to Rabbi Skorka:
    With respect to messianic times, we are both looking in the same direction. You are waiting for the Messiah to come, and I am waiting for his return. But it is the same thing.

    Jesus promised to come back; that is why I am waiting for his return. And you are waiting for the Messianic Age that God promised, waiting for it to come. But we are always looking toward the same thing: to the kingdom of peace, of justice, of love, of harmony where people can praise God …
    Do the Catholics understand what a horrendous blasphemy that is against Our Lord and Our Lady? The Catholic does not wait for Our Lord to return to create an earthly-historical "kingdom of peace." That is precisely the antichristian deception as it is described in the Catechism of the Catholic Church:

    676 The Antichrist's deception already begins to take shape in the world every time the claim is made to realize within history that messianic hope which can only be realized beyond history through the eschatological judgment. The Church has rejected even modified forms of this falsification of the kingdom to come under the name of millenarianism,577 especially the "intrinsically perverse" political form of a secular messianism.​

    The Catechism says that the authentic "messianic hope" will only come AFTER the "eschatological judgement," i.e., the separation of the sheep and the goats in the Last Judgement. This will be AFTER "salvation history" had ended. The Greek word "eschaton" means "the last thing."

    The antichristian deception promotes a false, humanistic, secular, this-worldly salvation. The deceived hope for a type of "heaven on earth." They believe this can be achieved by human effort WITHIN the world-history as we currently experience it. The Church teaches that this dream is incompatible with the True Faith. Instead, the Church has always taught the opposite:

    677 The Church will enter the glory of the kingdom only through this final Passover, when she will follow her Lord in his death and Resurrection.579 The kingdom will be fulfilled, then, not by a historic triumph of the Church through a progressive ascendancy, but only by God's victory over the final unleashing of evil, which will cause his Bride to come down from heaven.580 God's triumph over the revolt of evil will take the form of the Last Judgment after the final cosmic upheaval of this passing world.

    See the full dialogue between Bergoglio and Skorka below:

    https://ccjr.us/dialogika-resources...emitic-violence-2019/francis-skorka-2019dec11

    "Sometimes ... I hear echoes of Hitler’s speeches from 1935-1936"

    In November 2019, Pope Francis and Rabbi Abraham Skorka discussed the significance of the upcoming Hanukkah and Christmas seasons, which was recorded as a video (HERE). They spoke of recent outbursts of prejudice and violence in many countries, including antisemitic attacks and hostility toward migrants, as incompatible with the vision of religious freedom and universal peace of the two holydays. Below are excerpts of their informal conversation.

    POPE FRANCIS:

    As I was saying, we have to keep our eyes wide open and not be misled by false narratives. What concerns me most right now is the great amount of prejudice and hatred that has spread throughout society. There are closed borders and closed hearts. Christmas is coming. For us Christians it is a messianic moment. And this means peace, coming together, and fraternity. Nonetheless, I see outbursts of hatred erupting in today’s culture: there are countries that are suffering from increasing antisemitism, borders are being closed to migrants, our brothers and sisters are not being welcomed.

    Sometimes, I tell you, Abraham, I hear echoes of Hitler’s speeches from 1935-1936. That is why, with Christmas coming, I appeal, let us please have peace! What do you think about this?

    RABBI SKORKA:

    I totally agree. When we take a look at the map of the world today, we can see unprecedented violence in Latin America. I understand that there is social imbalance and social inequality in many countries in Latin America; equality and social justice have still not been achieved. But if we examine history, the only way to solve all these problems is by the path of peace. ... In any conflict, despite all the good intentions to solve problems, when the solution comes through violence it is definitely not a real resolution of the conflict.

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    POPE FRANCIS

    In other words, [using violence] is promoting hatred. And hatred always brings death. Hatred brings death, wars, revenge, separations, and great injustice, doesn’t it? The call of Christmas for us Christians is the messianic call, no? As one of the Minor Prophets says, the Messiah shall be peace or “He will be peace” [Micah 5:5].

    RABBI SKORKA:

    It is the same vision that we [Jews] have of the Messianic Age. One of the most important passages is in Isaiah, when he says something like, and in the field they will graze together, the lion with the little goat [Isaiah 11:6] and goes on, a toddler will put his hand in a viper’s nest and not be harmed [Isaiah 11:8]. And how does that chapter start? It begins by speaking about a descendent of the house of David [Isaiah 11:1], that is to say, the messianic times. There is a discussion in rabbinic literature [b. Berakhot 34b, Sifra Beḥukotai 2]: whether it is necessary for nature itself to be transformed in order to attain a time of peace; whether the lion should become herbivorous.

    POPE FRANCIS

    Ah, is this a rabbinic text?

    RABBI SKORKA:

    It is a question for discussion. Yes, this a rabbinic text. What does Maimonides, who for us is the great teacher, say? The world is not going to be transformed. It is in this human reality that a reality of peace is possible.

    Antisemitism, violence in Latin America, egregious acts of antisemitism in the United States ... So much violence, just to give a few examples. So much violence worldwide.

    POPE FRANCIS

    With respect to messianic times, we are both looking in the same direction. You are waiting for the Messiah to come, and I am waiting for his return. But it is the same thing.

    Jesus promised to come back; that is why I am waiting for his return. And you are waiting for the Messianic Age that God promised, waiting for it to come. But we are always looking toward the same thing: to the kingdom of peace, of justice, of love, of harmony where people can praise God …


    RABBI SKORKA

    … in the most profound sense. True interreligious dialogue happens when we can share things from different perspectives. You just mentioned peace; you said we are both waiting for peace, that we are waiting for the same thing but from different perspectives. And in this understanding, the good thing is that when each other’s religious celebrations come, each of us can have a feeling of deep empathy toward what the other is living. In the same way, you had when you twice visited Benei Tikva, the synagogue in Buenos Aires. And I recently reviewed the things you said. Impressive: how you spoke in the first person plural, how you included yourself in what we were doing, our prayers asking for God’s forgiveness. “We … We.” With sincerity. And so in the same vein, I want to say to you: May God bless us all so that Christian people’s celebration of Christmas will reinvigorate a deep spirituality and—what’s most important—the re-creation of great hope.

    POPE FRANCIS

    Hope for peace, so be it! Amen!

    RABBI SKORKA

    Amen!​
     
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  19. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Father Ripperger said a very wise thing the other day about not permitting ourselves to get distracted from working out our Eternal Salvation by events in the Church. Not to get too caught up in things that might take us away from concentrating on our own personal salvation. We can't really do much , or anything about events or people who have gone off the rails apart for praying for them. I suppose in a nutshell we must not get too lost in complaining about things and people. What good does it do really? It's good and wise and prudent to be aware of them and if we have a chance to help, it would be great to do so. But not to get too caught up in things.

    Father Ripperger warns against getting angry.

     
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  20. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I think a good example of trying to achieve change comes from my local Novus Ordo Parish Church. I try to get there early to read a chapter of the Bible , say a Rosary, and have time in front of the Blessed Sacrament and then after Mass spend time doing the Stations of the Cross. My main intention of course in going is to attend Mass. But I am afraid the Church is (and looks likes) a big railway station with constant talk and bustling about. (In fairness not all Novus Ordo are like this , most I think are pretty devout) .

    But the question is what can I do to change this. Well since the Parish Priests , the nuns, the Sexton and the Parish Council are the biggest offenders in this clearly I can do nothing but pray to their angels to hush them a little (and I do this all the time).

    But why do they behave like this? I think it is because they have come to see the Church and the Mass as a meeting place. A social gathering. It is about people meeting people rather than souls meeting God. It's rather as if they regard God as the Chairman of the meeting.

    But anyway I write this not to complain but just to give an example of how sometimes all we can do is just pray.

     
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