Pope Francis

Discussion in 'Prayer requests' started by padraig, Oct 26, 2019.

  1. padraig

    padraig Powers

    Well he was wicked , but he was honestly wicked. The Vatican Press Office used to cover up for him until he told them to shut up and he came right, right out in the open.

    He never pretended who and what he is at the end.

    Pure evil

    I respect this, that he did not pretend.

    I like out in the open.

    No signs of repentance.

    No apologies.

    No reversals

    Just pure, pure, pure evil to the very,very,very end.
     
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  2. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Yes, no matter my disappointment concerning his Pontificate, I must focus my prayers for him as the day of his Particular Judgment approaches.

    Jesus, may your saving grace and gift of final penitence yet lead Pope Francis to the Beatific Vision. Mother Mary, do not forget the many bouquets he brought to you, after his returns to the Vatican.
     
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  3. padraig

    padraig Powers

    'disappointment'

    err slightly more so.
     
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  4. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    Funny thing. I feel the same.

    Of all the bizarre outlandish things this man has done in his relentless efforts to destroy the church this may well take the cake.

    Pope takes roses and chocolates to Italy’s abortion pioneer
    Simon Caldwell
    November 8, 2024 at 3:13 pm
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    Pope Francis has taken chocolates and a bouquet of roses to the Italian politician who successfully campaigned to legalise abortion in the 1970s.

    Emma Bonino, 76, who was recently discharged from hospital after treatment for heart and respiratory problems, received the Pontiff in her home where the pair were pictured chatting in their wheelchairs on her terrace.

    Afterwards, Ms Bonino said on X that Francis, 87, had praised her as an example of “freedom and resistance”.
     
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  5. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I don't see any need but to call out Papa Frankie for being pure evil. Pure evil he was.

    Pure evil he is.

    Not a , 'Disappointment'.

    Pure evil.
     
  6. EricH

    EricH Archangels

    We have no right or authority to judge his soul. You can disagree with some of his actions, but we have no right to judge his soul.
     
  7. Yes
     
  8. EricH

    EricH Archangels

    You guys need to examine your own conscience. One day you'll need to answer to the lord how you spoke about the holy rather
     
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  9. Eric I am very in tune with what's going on. I am ready to answer to the Lord. The coming schism will not be caused by faithful Catholics. All is in the hands of the Lord.
    And I will say not another word about it.
     
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  10. Mario

    Mario Powers

    Obviously, but then if I followed your reasoning, Padraig, one would think prayers for this Pope are useless. I won't go down that road! I remember young Therese praying for the vile murderer on the day of his execution by hanging, and at the last minute he reached out and took the crucifix and kissed it!

    St. Therese, intercede for Pope Francis and send him a rose that he may repent and turn to Christ Jesus!
     
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  11. EricH

    EricH Archangels

    Well I for one would not be caught dead in front of the Lord after spewing outr language like calling the pope awful, and pure evil. Call me a chicken I guess. I trust the gates of hell will not prevail against the Church. No one becomes pope that God didn't allow, so who am I to call the pope evil? Disagree with stuff he's done? Sure. But we don't know his heart and soul. I know many people who are not very doctrinally sound, but have huge hearts, love Jesus. They will get to heaven I have no doubt. To me that is who pope feancis remind me of. Let God judge his soul. Not us. Calling the pope evil is very dangerous. I would not want to face the Lord having done that.
     
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  12. padraig

    padraig Powers

    He is the Lamb with the two horns.

     
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  13. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    You guys is plural.

    I am making a judgement on his actions, which bring nothing but confusion to the Church and the world.

    Not all of us here agree with Padraig's forthright position.

    Having an opinion that he is one of the worst Popes in history, in all good conscience I can face God believing that.
     
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  14. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Even the Bible believing protestants can see what many Catholics refuse to see - this is from a Protestant Bible website!!

    The confusion is the point
    Pope Francis plays a tactical game in his undermining of doctrines on sexuality

    This is the liberal Catholic hope for Francis’ papacy—a church slowly transformed to accommodate the spirit of the age in general, and the sexual revolution in particular.

    https://wng.org/opinions/the-confusion-is-the-point-1707131824
     
  15. padraig

    padraig Powers

    I remember years and years ago meeting a priest who was a complete stranger for the first time. I knew nothing whatsoever about the guy , not even his name . I have met many evil people in my time but I don't recall ever meeting such a wicked human being in my entire life. It was as if all the air were sucked out of the room and turned into dark ice just in his presence. He even looked evil.

    A little later I spoke to my Spiritual Director about this strange priest and he knew how I meant right away and agreed with me. I was not the only one. Years later this priest became World Famous in a spectacular way:

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Smyth

    I mention this because one of the great causes of the Clerical Abuse crisis was that people were afraid or slow to call a spade a spade. To call out evil and evil people for what they clearly were.
     
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  16. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    The problem is that the Church has been infiltrated by modernism and a spirit of secularism, so much so, that the hierarchy are unable to spot a bad apple in the barrel.

    I love this letter sent to the Pope by Fr Weinandy, a brave priest, who lost his job because he dared to speak out.

    Rev Fr Thomas G Weinandy

    July 31, 2017

    Feast of St. Ignatius of Loyola

    Your Holiness,
    I write this letter with love for the Church and sincere respect for your office. You are the Vicar of Christ on earth, the shepherd of his flock, the successor to St. Peter and so the rock upon which Christ will build his Church. All Catholics, clergy and laity alike, are to look to you with filial loyalty and obedience grounded in truth. The Church turns to you in a spirit of faith, with the hope that you will guide her in love.

    Yet, Your Holiness, a chronic confusion seems to mark your pontificate. The light of faith, hope, and love is not absent, but too often it is obscured by the ambiguity of your words and actions. This fosters within the faithful a growing unease. It compromises their capacity for love, joy and peace. Allow me to offer a few brief examples.

    First there is the disputed Chapter 8 of Amoris Laetitia. I need not share my own concerns about its content. Others, not only theologians, but also cardinals and bishops, have already done that. The main source of concern is the manner of your teaching. In Amoris Laetitia, your guidance at times seems intentionally ambiguous, thus inviting both a traditional interpretation of Catholic teaching on marriage and divorce as well as one that might imply a change in that teaching. As you wisely note, pastors should accompany and encourage persons in irregular marriages; but ambiguity persists about what that “accompaniment” actually means. To teach with such a seemingly intentional lack of clarity inevitably risks sinning against the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of truth. The Holy Spirit is given to the Church, and particularly to yourself, to dispel error, not to foster it. Moreover, only where there is truth can there be authentic love, for truth is the light that sets women and men free from the blindness of sin, a darkness that kills the life of the soul. Yet you seem to censor and even mock those who interpret Chapter 8 of Amoris Laetitia in accord with Church tradition as Pharisaic stone-throwers who embody a merciless rigorism. This kind of calumny is alien to the nature of the Petrine ministry. Some of your advisors regrettably seem to engage in similar actions. Such behavior gives the impression that your views cannot survive theological scrutiny, and so must be sustained by ad hominem arguments.

    Second, too often your manner seems to demean the importance of Church doctrine. Again and again you portray doctrine as dead and bookish, and far from the pastoral concerns of everyday life. Your critics have been accused, in your own words, of making doctrine an ideology. But it is precisely Christian doctrine – including the fine distinctions made with regard to central beliefs like the Trinitarian nature of God; the nature and purpose of the Church; the Incarnation; the Redemption; and the sacraments – that frees people from worldly ideologies and assures that they are actually preaching and teaching the authentic, life-giving Gospel. Those who devalue the doctrines of the Church separate themselves from Jesus, the author of truth. What they then possess, and can only possess, is an ideology – one that conforms to the world of sin and death.

    Third, faithful Catholics can only be disconcerted by your choice of some bishops, men who seem not merely open to those who hold views counter to Christian belief but who support and even defend them. What scandalizes believers, and even some fellow bishops, is not only your having appointed such men to be shepherds of the Church, but that you also seem silent in the face of their teaching and pastoral practice. This weakens the zeal of the many women and men who have championed authentic Catholic teaching over long periods of time, often at the risk of their own reputations and well-being. As a result, many of the faithful, who embody the sensus fidelium, are losing confidence in their supreme shepherd.

    Fourth, the Church is one body, the Mystical Body of Christ, and you are commissioned by the Lord himself to promote and strengthen her unity. But your actions and words too often seem intent on doing the opposite. Encouraging a form of “synodality” that allows and promotes various doctrinal and moral options within the Church can only lead to more theological and pastoral confusion. Such synodality is unwise and, in practice, works against collegial unity among bishops.

    Holy Father, this brings me to my final concern. You have often spoken about the need for transparency within the Church. You have frequently encouraged, particularly during the two past synods, all persons, especially bishops, to speak their mind and not be fearful of what the pope may think. But have you noticed that the majority of bishops throughout the world are remarkably silent? Why is this? Bishops are quick learners, and what many have learned from your pontificate is not that you are open to criticism, but that you resent it. Many bishops are silent because they desire to be loyal to you, and so they do not express – at least publicly; privately is another matter – the concerns that your pontificate raises. Many fear that if they speak their mind, they will be marginalized or worse.

    I have often asked myself: “Why has Jesus let all of this happen?” The only answer that comes to mind is that Jesus wants to manifest just how weak is the faith of many within the Church, even among too many of her bishops. Ironically, your pontificate has given those who hold harmful theological and pastoral views the license and confidence to come into the light and expose their previously hidden darkness. In recognizing this darkness, the Church will humbly need to renew herself, and so continue to grow in holiness.

    Holy Father, I pray for you constantly and will continue to do so. May the Holy Spirit lead you to the light of truth and the life of love so that you can dispel the darkness that now hides the beauty of Jesus’ Church.
    Sincerely in Christ,
    Thomas G. Weinandy, O.F.M., Cap.

    It is kind of ironic that the USCCB (soon after this letter) sked Father Weinandy to resign from his position as consultant to the bishops, and he he submitted his resignation.
     
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  17. SeeTheLight

    SeeTheLight Foot Prints In The Sand

    I'll let God be the Holy Father's judge and jury. He gave us exactly what God intended nothing more nothing less.
     
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  18. Luan Ribeiro

    Luan Ribeiro Powers

    I believe this is not canonically possible; however, I think the cardinals might request a written guarantee that the next pope will not alter Catholic doctrine at his own pleasure.
     
  19. garabandal

    garabandal Powers

    Yes it all falls under God's permissive will.
     
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  20. border collie

    border collie Archangels

    I often think of the sadness of Jesus when he sees us judging and condemning each other. It's like we forget that He suffered and died for us, all sinners, and we are all equally important to him.
     
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