As a general rule,those who have gross mouths lead gross lives. Also heresies tend to find their origins beneath the belt.
I don't automatically accept that it is true, but neither do I automatically dismiss it. It would not the least surprise me if it were true.
I came to this information through the Spanish website Infovaticana, which is quite credible: https://infovaticana.com/2024/05/29...ival-vaticano-de-la-jornada-mundial-del-nino/
It will come out, if true. The truth is this man has always failed to protect the victims of sexual abuse. As cardinal, in 2010 Bergoglio commissioned a study which concluded that Father Julio César Grassi, a priest convicted of child sexual abuse, was innocent, that his victims were lying, and that the case against him never should have gone to trial.[384] Despite the study, the Supreme Court of Argentina upheld the conviction and 15-year prison sentence against Grassi in March 2017.[384] Francis has admitted that the church "arrived late" in dealing with sexual abuse cases.[385] During his papacy, a number of abuse survivors have expressed disappointment in Francis's response to sex abuse in the church,[386] while others have praised him for his actions.[387] In 2015, Francis was criticized for supporting Chilean bishop Juan Barros, who was accused of covering up sex crimes committed against minors.[388] In 2018, Francis acknowledged he had made "grave errors" in judgement about Barros, apologized to the victims and launched a Vatican investigation that resulted in the resignation of Barros and two other Chilean bishops.[389] In 2018, Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò published an open letter denouncing Francis's handling of sexual abuse allegations against Theodore McCarrick, accusing him of knowing about allegations that McCarrick had committed sexual abuse and failing to take action. Viganò called on the Pope to resign.[390] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Francis
I always thought the Chilean case appalling. If one can somehow put oneself in the position of one of the abused. Firstly, if it's a national culture in which these things are only beginning to come out and in which many innocently believe such things couldn't possibly happen, it is already difficult to break the news and make the accusation against sceptical authority (some of this 'scepticism' due to malevolent cover-up), and the affair is so disturbing and personally embarrassing (a weak, watery word in search of a more appropriately descriptive one); then the pope, of all people, accuses the accusers of themselves being liars. It was fortunate that nobody, as far as we know, committed suicide in the face of such a dismissal. So much good work by Pope Benedict...completely undone. Millstones...around necks...into the sea...
Regardless of whether or not Francis is guilty of Vigano's serious accusations, we know that if he truly converts, the media will try to crush him like a soda can under a tractor.
I read the account on Nick Donnelly’s Facebook feed. I was tempted to message him to be careful but then realised he was quoting Abp Vigano. To go public on this with only one person’s say-so is, I think, premature. On the other hand, as someone said earlier, it might embolden others (if there are any) to come forward. These are powerful people and their level of control and influence is concerning. That is why Vigano went into hiding after he outed McCarrick and PF’s covering for him. Some are wondering if PF is being blackmailed or at least controlled by those who know his past. How much longer must we endure this filth even if this rumour is untrue?
It's hard to know what to do , say or think sometimes. In the past the greatest harm in Clerical abuse cases was not that people spoke out, but that they kept quiet. Why did people keep quiet? Most especially why did the victims keep quiet? They were young men in their teens or early twenties, nearly never was it women or girls as this is a homosexual thing. I think in part it was because speaking out was seen as a wicked thing to do. That speaking out would harm the Church These young men were conditioned to keep quiet because they believed it was the good Catholic, the good spiritual thing to do. It can be the same for us lay Cztho!ics. We simply do not to do with such things. But maybe in terms cases of the charges of Vigano against Papa Frankie it would be instructive to recall what might occur . In the first instance the police , magistrates and public prosecutors would be called in. This of course is never going to happen in This case. Never ever. Forget about it. So that is a cause for deep concern. This constant cloud of secrecy and not knowing. The second thing we might expect to happen in such a case in the secular world is that the person accused might be suspended or even step down from his public role. But here not only will he not be suspended but there won't even be an investigation. A third thing that would happen would that there would be a furore in terms legacy media and reporters would e falling over themselves to look into things. But once again this is not going to happen, for Papa Frankie is their total darlund. No More than Hunter Biden's laptop got looked into. A fourth thing that would happen would be a detailed public rebuttal by the accused. Again this is never going to happen. There will be no clarifications, just a delay brooding silence, as always. I wouldn't go feeling too sorry about Papa Frankie in all this guilty or not guilty, he holds all the high cards and he knows it. If I had to feel sorry for anyone it would be his possible victims. If someone who sits on the Chair of Peter did these terrible things to them they can give up the idea of any kind of Justice...at least in this life.
By the way Vigano, like him or loath him ,was right on target about McCarrick. People seem to have forgotten this. The fact that we might not like to hear the possible dreadful truth should not stop us listening.
I have read that when Pope Francis spoke in scathing terms of faggotry in the seminaries, the reaction of the Italian bishops was one of collective derisive laughter. Such a reaction is instructive, I think. Pope Francis might have all the 'high cards' now, but he will face his Lord in the near future, to account for his personal behaviour, without so much as a pair of deuces in his hand. Of course, PF might have already sincerely repented for this alleged behaviour, but, if true, he'll have a lot of temporal damage to repair, given his position and authority. Yet, as he half-jokingly said himself, they'll probably quickly make him a saint; this is the recent pattern-yet Pope Leo XIII and Pope Pius XII languish without any suggestion of canonisation.
Somehow, I don't think there will be thousands and thousands at his funeral, when the time comes, holding placards and joyfully shouting "Santo subito", as they were at one particular funeral many years ago......
The translation of Leo XII into Portuguese is literally homonymous with "Lion," so I imagine that it would cause some strangeness here in Brazil if any pope chose this name or inserted it once again in the haliological calendar.
In fact, with the changes he has planned for future papal funerals, such as the body no longer being publicly displayed on the catafalque, I believe that a certain sense of sacredness that people have about the papacy will be lost.
I think a lot of changes in this pontificate will not lost very long after it ends. He can't force his successors to submit to his will.
That wasn't the canonisation I was really referring to. I regularly pray to St Pope JPII; but Pope Paul VI has also been canonised. I doubt I'll ever pray to the latter.
I don't know why, but there's a soft spot for him (PPVI) in my heart.......I always had the impression that one day he woke up in the midst of a nightmare and realized it wasn't a nightmare at all, but reality. Like he was truly bamboozled......His canonisation baffled me too.
I think that Paul VI opened the church too much to the world, to the point that the cult of Saint Philomena was significantly reduced because of a supposed historical analysis.
