Pope Francis covered up McCarrick abuse, former US nuncio testifies

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  1. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Guest

    Exactly!
    Pointing out the truth doesn't make one a hater.
     
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  2. SgCatholic

    SgCatholic Guest

    Great research there, Dolours!
    Reading about Msgr Ricca's serious transgressions makes me feel ill :sick:
    And of him, PF said, "Who am I to judge?" (n)(n)(n)o_O
     
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  3. AED

    AED Powers

    :confused::confused::confused::confused::eek::eek::eek:
    We can judge objective sinful acts. In fact we must! We cannot judge the heart of a person. But where sin is scandalizing in a public way that we must judge.
    Yes I feel I’ll too.
     
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  4. We're there folks. The institutional church is gone....it's having the final spear to the heart reflected in truth in the many manifestations of bleeding Christ on the the crucifix happening now....esp. from the heart. This pope will be the last....until the Angelic Pope who will lead the remnant into the totally New Era. So these exercises to prop of the remains from the "hurricane" being attempted by the already conflicted "leaders" are exercises without meaning or effect. We're at the point of having to fend for ourselves, without any figure at the top to look to, but fortunate to be led by the Mother Who promises to be with us when consecrated to her heart.....in our cenacles of prayer, awaiting the Holy Spirit, as in the first cenacle with her giving strength and truth to our fear filled selves as to those Apostles. Look for O'Malley to be one of the next ones to resign! His arranged meeting with several microphones for attendees to use to ask questions resulted in many priests demanding his resignation!

    Pope summons bishops for February abuse prevention summit

    Pope Francis is summoning the presidents of every bishops conference around the world for a February summit to discuss preventing clergy sex abuse and protecting children — evidence that he realizes the scandal is global and that inaction threatens to undermine his legacy.

    Francis' key cardinal advisers announced the decision Wednesday, a day before Francis meets with U.S. church leaders who have been discredited anew by the latest accusations in the Catholic Church's decades-long sex abuse and cover-up scandal.

    The Feb. 21-24 meeting of the presidents of the more than 100 bishops conferences is believed to be the first of its kind, and signals a realization at the highest levels of the church that clergy sex abuse is a global problem and not restricted to the Anglo-Saxon world, as many church leaders have long tried to insist.

    Earlier this year, Francis faced what was then the worst crisis of his papacy when he repeatedly discredited victims of a notorious Chilean predator priest. He eventually admitted to "grave errors in judgment" and has taken steps to make amends, sanction guilty bishops and remake the Chilean episcopacy, which he accused of helping to fuel a "culture of cover-up."

    More recently, Francis' papacy has been jolted by accusations from a retired Vatican ambassador that he rehabilitated a top American cardinal from sanctions imposed by Pope Benedict XVI for having molested and harassed adult seminarians.

    The Vatican hasn't responded to the accusations by Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano, but has promised "clarifications" that presumably will come sometime after Francis' meeting Thursday with the U.S. delegation.

    The Vatican said Tuesday the delegation would be headed by Cardinal Daniel DiNardo, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, and also include Francis' top sex abuse adviser, Cardinal Sean O'Malley.

    Di Nardo has said he wants Francis to authorize a full-fledged Vatican investigation into ex-Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, who was removed as cardinal in July after a credible accusation that he groped a teenager.

    The Vatican has known since at least 2000 that McCarrick would invite seminarians to his New Jersey beach house and into his bed.

    DiNardo has also said recent accusations that top Vatican officials - including the current pope - covered up for McCarrick since 2000 deserve answers.

    The Vatican in 2011 ordered every bishops conference around the world to develop written guidelines to prevent abuse of minors and vulnerable adults. The Vatican said the guidelines should specify how bishops should tend to victims, punish offenders and keep pedophiles out of the priesthood.

    While most have obliged, other conferences particularly in Africa have not, either citing lack of resources or other impediments.

    Remarkably, Vatican City itself has no such policy, even though the Holy See promised the United Nations five years ago that it was developing a "safe environment program" — including written guidelines — to protect children inside the 110-acre (44-hectare) Vatican City.

    The U.S. conference of bishops issued what is considered the gold-standard policy in 2002, requiring accusations of abuse to be reported to police and the permanent removal from ministry of any priest found to have abused a minor.

    But that policy has been questioned recently, given it exempted bishops like McCarrick, who according to the church's own laws, can only be judged by the pope.

    The credibility of the U.S. church leadership is now in tatters over the McCarrick scandal and recent revelations in the Pennsylvania grand jury report, which found that some 300 priests abused more than 1,000 children since the 1940s — and that a string of bishops in six dioceses covered up for them, including the current archbishop of Washington, Cardinal Donald Wuerl.

    Wuerl, who was bishop of Pittsburg for some 18 years, offered to resign nearly three years ago when he turned 75 but Francis hasn't accepted it. In a letter to priests on Tuesday, he said he would be returning to Rome soon to discuss his resignation, aware that it's time for new leadership.

    Since the Pennsylvania report was issued last month, prosecutors in a half-dozen U.S. states have announced plans for similar investigations.

    The U.S. isn't alone in digging into its past. On Wednesday, German media reported that a church-commissioned study on abuse in the German church detailed 3,677 abuses cases between 1946 and 2014, with more than half of the victims aged 13 or younger and most boys. Every sixth case involved rape and at least 1,670 clergy were involved, according to Spiegel Online and Die Zeit, which said they obtained the report that was due to be released Sept. 25.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...ops-february-abuse-prevention-summit-57767101
     
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  5. SteveD

    SteveD Powers

    For US members and especially those in the Chicago area, please note that the RCF, which has done great work in the past in uncovering the mis-deeds of clergy and which closed down has been reactivated.
    The reopening announcement (at https://rcf.org/) reads (in part):
    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    Media Contact: media@rcf.org

    (PETERSBURG, IL. September 8, 2018) — In July of 2009, the Board Members of Roman Catholic Faithful, Inc. elected to suspend operations after twelve years of fighting corruption in the Catholic Church. Said Stephen Brady, founder and president of RCF, "Our organization began after we learned that the bishop of Springfield, Illinois, the late Daniel Ryan, was paying young male prostitutes for sex. Soon calls for our assistance came from around the U.S. We sponsored a number of symposia in cities across the country, and we picketed the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) on at least two occasions.
    "We were privileged to receive the sage advice of holy priests such as Fr. John Hardon, Fr. Charles Fiore, Fr. Peter Mascari, and the legendary Fr. Malachi Martin," Mr. Brady explained. "Yet, we closed our doors after we became convinced that clerical corruption could not be fought simply on a piecemeal basis on a local level; rather, it became clear that the greater part of the post-conciliar Church had lost the Faith. We urged our supporters to attend the Traditional Mass whenever possible, to recite the daily Rosary, to live the life of grace and to pray very hard for the reform of the Church." (RCF's “goodbye letter” can be found at http://rcf.org/RCFgoodbye.pdf)
    However, Mr. Brady continued, "The events that have unfolded during the last several months, most particularly the report of the grand jury that investigated the sexual molestation of children in Pennsylvania, have led us to believe that we must once more jump into the fray. It has become impossible for us to stand idle after reading the grand jury report (available at http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/local/report-on-pennsylvania-church-sex-abuse/2319/). The various committees and commissions proposed by several bishops can be counted on to be a complete waste of time and money. This amounts to the wolves investigating the wolves."
     
  6. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

  7. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    Some excellent analysis over at The Remnant:

    A WILDERNESS OF MIRRORS: The Political Scandal behind the Clerical Scandal
    Jesse Russell, Ph.D. | Remnant Columnist

    Part I: War and Rumors of War...

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    Former head of CIA counterintelligence and infamous spymaster, James Jesus Angleton, once described the Cold War world of espionage and intrigue as a “wilderness of mirrors.”

    As more and more of the clerical abuse scandal is revealed, and layers of conspiracy and confusion are peeled away, many Catholics may feel as though they are walking around in their own wilderness of mirrors, a mess of doubt and confusion in which no one can be trusted.

    Such a conspiratorial mindset is not unjustified, for it is apparent that there is more to the story than simply another round of liberal prelates being exposed as enablers to vicious sex offenders (although that reading of the story certainly is true). The conspiracy recently reached a new level of interesting in The American Spectator’s George Neumayr’s revelation that Cardinal Wuerl has recruited Barrack Obama’s former head of Secret Service to run cover for the Washington, DC cardinal who is now deluged with scandal.

    As Neumayr’s brilliant gumshoe work has revealed, the presence of Obama’s former SS chief, Mark Sullivan, in Wuerl’s entourage seems to point to a deeper collusion between the Democratic Party and the liberal wing of the Catholic Church—something The Remnant suggested last year.

    While such a weird alliance is very likely, the alliance between Democrats and liberal Catholic prelates poses an unsettling question: is it possible that there are those who masquerade as conservatives both in and outside the Church who are trying to take advantage of the McCarrick-Wuerl scandal to push a political agenda?

    Is this moment of political and ecclesiastical crisis in America a window of opportunity for a certain group of people who have been holed in “the resistance” during in the Trump Era, biding their time and waiting for an opportunity to rear their ugly neoconservative heads?

    Yes, dear reader, there is just such a possibility.

    Yet, before we explore this avenue, let us start with some preliminary principles:

    1. As has long been known, Wuerl, McCarrick, Cupich, and the whole stinking lot of the Francis Church is rotten to the core and are (hopefully) about ready to face the majesty of God’s justice.

    2. Those journalists who are sincerely exposing the degeneracy and rot in the Church are heroes and deserve our prayers and support.

    However, just because Francis-Church is rotten, it does not mean that all of the enemies of Francis-Church are good.

    Furthermore, not every journalist who is reporting on the Francis-Church scandal is doing so from noble intentions.

    To uncover those who are taking advantage of the scandal in the Church, we must turn back the clock to the 2002 Boston scandals in which the wicked deeds of priests were published coast to coast on the TV and computer screens of the people of America for the first time.

    The standard narrative of the 2002 Boston Spotlight Scandal is that a group of investigative sleuths at the Boston Globe tracked down the dark secrets of the Boston Archdiocese, exposing a how a fundamentally insular and reactionary institution had been protecting pedophiles.

    The only way to repair the Catholic Church, this narrative suggested, would be to reform the Church’s oppressive medieval structure and to liberalize her rigid teachings. A new, hip, and liberated Church, this narrative went, would not allow for the sexual abuse of children.

    This narrative is wrong on many levels, but perhaps the most critical point at which it is wrong is the idea that the Globe had discovered a hidden abuse crisis.

    The truth is that the crimes in Boston had been known for decades.

    [​IMG]Fr. Paul Shanley, one of the most notorious, frequently mentioned names in the 2002 Spotlight Scandal, flaunted his homosexuality and pederasty for decades and had even attended a meeting of the North American Man Boy Love Association, which was reported in a 1979 article in GaysWeek titled, “Men and Boys.”

    While many have rightfully asked if the Boston Archdioceseknew of this 1979 meeting, an equally important question is: did anyone else in the media or in the social world of Boston know about this meeting?

    Shanley was not the only priest with a record of abuse who publicly flaunted his degeneracy—to this very day, Catholic priests march in Gay Pride Parades, and gay priest scandals continue to plague the Church, but for some reason only some of these scandals are selectively aired in the media.

    It is almost as if these scandals are saved in a sort of grotesque reservoir of perversity only to be released in the national media at an opportune time.

    If many in the media knew about Shanley and the other most infamous Boston offender, Fr. John J. Geoghan, why did the Boston Globe pick up the story in July of 2001 and then begin the big takedown of Cardinal Law and the Boston Archdiocese when the September 11, 2001 attacks faded from the news cycle?

    Examining the stories from the era, we can see that the tone of the coverage is not a crusade against child abuse, but an attack on the institution of the Catholic Church. The Globe’s commentary and the wider media narrative pitted the American media in a David versus Goliath struggle against Catholicism. As a typical example, PBS ran a special report on the Globe’s coverage titled, “Challenging the Church.” As was suggested by the PBS special as well as other media reports, Boston, Massachusetts was one of the strongest hubs of Catholicism in America, and the Globe’s spotlighting of the abuse crisis had the effect of cracking one of the last coherent ethnic Catholic communities in America.

    What the efforts of busing in the 1960s and 1970s and other attempts to break up the ethnic Catholic communities in American cities had failed to do, the Globe was now accomplishing by revealing to Irish-American Catholics that the Church that had supported them for so long had become a morally toxic environment from which all Catholics should flee.

    There is little doubt that the Boston Archdiocese as well as the Church in America was and still is infested with dangerous perverts, but the point here is that the media did not see its job as helping to expose and rid the Church of degenerates, but rather to attack the Catholic Church as an unreformed, pre-modern institution.

    The horrific stories of abuse were simply cannon-fodder to attack the Church....
     
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  8. Richard67

    Richard67 Powers

    ...To explore this matter further and uncover why the media had saved up this cache of abuse stories, we must turn to the figure at the center of both the Spotlight Scandal as well as the current Wuerl-McCarrick crisis: Rod Dreher.

    During the “long Lent” of the Spotlight scandal, which coincided with the ignition of the War on Terror, now in its seventeenth year, before he took up the cause of exposing clerical abuse, Rod Dreher made a living selling Catholics on the Iraq War in the pages of National Review.

    In fact, Dreher even appeared on CNN’s Crossfire on March 5, 2003, just fifteen days before Operation Shock and Awe, to tell American Catholics that he was standing with President George W. Bush instead of Pope John Paul II, who opposed the 2003 invasion of Iraq, stating:

    “For all of the great things this pope has done compared to our president, he's still wrong on this. And this is one Catholic who supports our evangelical president.

    I think the president is right on this war, the pope is wrong. And I say that with respect for the Holy Father. But we Catholics are allowed to dissent on this matter, on a matter of prudential judgment about the war. And I think the Holy Father simply doesn't see things in the right way and our president does.”

    Moreover, Dreher even takes a shot at John Paul II’s administration of the abuse crisis as evidence that the Holy Father lacks the competence to assess Saddam’s alleged threat to the United States:

    “The Holy Father would like a dialogue, dialogue, dialogue. That's the way he's run this church and it hasn't worked. It hasn't worked in the ways governing the church and it doesn't work in the real world.”

    Let’s be clear here: Rod Dreher is not wrong for criticizing John Paul II’s soft approach to handling the abuse crisis as well the Pontiff’s seemingly weak administration of Church. Certainly, much stronger words could and should have been used to criticize the pontiff—but in a different context.

    Rather, the problem here is that it appears as though we have a reporter whose job at the National Review was to sell Catholics on what was an ultimately futile war that only increased the presence of terrorists in the Middle East and violated the Catholic Church’s just war teaching. This same reporter picks up the trail of clerical abuse and uses it as a mallet to hammer John Paul II for opposing a clearly unjust war that has destroyed the country of Iraq and has affected incredible suffering on untold millions of Catholics in the Middle East.

    Indeed, as Tom Piatak of Chronicles has reminded us, during the heady days of the Iraq War, Dreher even expressed his glee that a reader of National Review informed him that “there is going to be hell to pay for the Chaldean Catholics” when Iraq falls due to the Chaldeans’ alleged cooperation with Saddam.

    Is it then possible that the reason why the disgusting and wicked deeds of abuser priests were kept secret and then launched into the public—on the eve of the Iraq War by neoconservatives like Rod Dreher and their allies and benefactors—was because it would destroy the moral credibility of the Church?

    Or was it merely a coincidence that all of the abuse was outed in the early 21stcentury as America was forced into a Middle Eastern war that did not benefit American interests?

    If the former question is to be answered, “yes,” then there would be a similar narrative for the storing up of and then airing of Wuerl, McCarrick, and even Pope Francis’s foul misdeeds at precisely the right moment.

    [​IMG]Cardinals McCarrick, Dolan, Wuerl... Still laughing, Excellencies?

    If so, then what is it, other than their degenerate criminal acts, which these liberal prelates did in order to draw the wrath of the neoconservatives?

    Stay tuned for Part II of “A Wilderness of Mirrors: The Political Scandal behind the Clerical Scandal”: “Cardinal McCarrick’s War.”

    https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/in...political-scandal-behind-the-clerical-scandal
     
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  9. Don_D

    Don_D ¡Viva Cristo Rey!

    You just can't make this stuff up.

    https://onepeterfive.com/cardinal-d...le-in-rome-to-meet-with-pope-on-abuse-crisis/

    Cardinal DiNardo Accused of Neglect in Abuse Case While in Rome to Meet with Pope on Abuse Crisis
    [​IMG] Steve Skojec September 12, 2018 0 Comments


    Cardinal Daniel DiNardo of the Archdiocese of Galveston-Houston, the president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB), has been accused by two alleged victims of clerical abuse of failing to remove their priest abuser from ministry. The alleged perpetrator, Father Manuel LaRosa-Lopez, was arrested in Conroe, Texas on Tuesday on four counts of indecency with a child pursuant to an investigation launched in August of 2018. The charges relate to abuse accusations dating back nearly two decades. Despite archdiocesan awareness of accusations of inappropriate conduct with minors, LaRosa-Lopez was still in active ministry as the pastor of St. John Fisher parish in Richmond, TX, roughly 70 miles from where the original abuse was alleged to have taken place.

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    Screenshot from the Montgomery County Sheriff’s Department Jail Roster.

    In a statement on August 27, following explosive accusations of high-level clerical abuse cover-ups made by former papal nuncio Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, Cardinal DiNardo called for “a prompt and thorough examination into how the grave moral failings” of Cardinal Theodore McCarrick “could have been tolerated for so long and proven no impediment to his advancement.” DiNardo is currently in Rome for a meeting of American bishops with Pope Francis tomorrow on the sex abuse crisis once again rocking the Catholic Church.

    According to a report from the Associated Press (AP), LaRosa-Lopez, age 60, is accused of “fondling two teenagers” – a boy and a girl – while he was a priest at Sacred Heart Church in Conroe in the 1990s to the early 2000s. According to the AP report, “[t]he archdiocese issued a statement Wednesday confirming that both people had come forward to report abuse by LaRosa-Lopez, one of them in 2001. The archdiocese said it reported both allegations to the state Child Protective Services, and said it was unaware of any other ‘allegations of inappropriate conduct involving minors’ against the priest.”

    Nevertheless, and after one of the victims was “promised in a meeting with DiNardo, several years after she first reported abuse, that the priest would be removed from any contact with children,” LaRosa-Lopez continued to serve as pastor at St. John Fisher in Richmond. As of this writing, he is still listed on the parish website as the pastor, and his pastor’s page indicates that the parish has some 900 families. The AP confirmed with the archdiocese that LaRosa-Lopez has been at the parish since 2004. According to the Archdiocese of Galveston-Houston website, LaRosa-Lopez is also the episcopal vicar for Hispanics for the diocese, and it was his work in this latter position that alerted his alleged female victim to take action. The victim saw an internal diocesan newsletter announcing LaRosa-Lopez’s appointment to the role, and, according to the AP, “she thought there was a chance DiNardo didn’t know about her complaint because it had predated his time in Houston.” The AP report continues:

    She contacted the church and started to meet with a therapist paid for by the archdiocese. Eventually, she met with DiNardo and other top clergy in the diocese. She says they told her that after she had come forward, LaRosa-Lopez was sent to a hospital for psychiatric treatment twice and that [he] would no longer be allowed to work with children.

    Then LaRosa-Lopez was brought in for about 10 minutes, she confronted him about the abuse and he apologized.

    She says she later discovered that LaRosa-Lopez remained at St. John Fisher, in the presence of children.

    Of DiNardo, the woman said, “I’m tired of all of his empty words.”

    “If he’s going to go meet with the Pope and pretend that all of this is OK and his diocese is clean, I can’t stand it,” she said. “I can’t be quiet.”

    The Associated Press asked Tuesday to interview DiNardo and other top leaders at the archdiocese. It also submitted a list of questions about both victims’ allegations.

    A spokesman for the archdiocese declined the interview requests or to address specific allegations about what DiNardo told the victims.

    In his August 27 statement, DiNardo attempted to reassure the faithful, writing, “Nationwide, the Church has a zero-tolerance policy toward priests and deacons who abuse, safe environment training, background checks for those working around children, victim assistance coordinators, prompt reporting to civil authorities, and lay review boards in dioceses.”

    The arrest of LaRosa-Lopez raises serious questions about DiNardo’s commitment to such policies and his qualification to lead any effort to combat the epidemic of clerical abuse.

    For a more detailed accounting of the LaRosa-Lopez story, see the full AP report here.
     
  10. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    The institutional Church isn't gone. We still have a Pope and Bishops. They're nothing to write home about and Francis is probably the worst Pope in the history of the Church but they're still our shepherds. Even if half of them end up in prison, they will still be our shepherds unless and until the Magisterium of the Church determines otherwise. This could well leave us a very poor church, but would it be so terrible to be spared the shame of the successors of the Apostles hanging on every word of the likes of Paul Erhlich? Evil though many of them may be, lining up with politically motivated lynch mobs to oust them is not in our interests. The "we are Church" types and their political masters will use this crisis to turn Christ's Church into a democracy and I don't fancy politicians using their "Catholic" footsoldiers to choose our Bishops and dictate Doctrine.

    There's a Synod on the family in October. Pray that they don't use it to further undermine settled teaching on marriage and sexual morality. And we have until February to pray that the Pope and his Modernist clique don't use this crisis to destroy the priesthood in their bid to curry favour with the secular media. Now is the time to say "Jesus, I trust in you" and really mean it.

    For all we know, Cardinal O'Malley could be the least worse of that C9 group. I would prefer him over most those in attendance at the group's most recent get together.
     
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  11. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    And those sex abuse victims? Well, hell, they can wait! And that investigation into complicity can wait, too. Justice for wounded souls and vindication of good priests and bishops? That can totally wait!

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    Wednesday, September 12, 2018
    Vatican to Address the Sex Abuse Crisis... Later
    Written by Michael Matt | Editor

    [​IMG]Yeah, you're real sorry, aren't you, Guys?

    This just in from the Vatican: “The Holy Father Francis, after hearing the Council of Cardinals, decided to convene a meeting with the Presidents of the Bishops Conferences of the Catholic Church on the theme of ‘protection of minors.’”

    So, His Holiness needs his Cardinals to tell him it’d be a good idea to maybe address the massive sex abuse crisis in his church? Well, at least there’s something that looks like acknowledgement going on now. So, when does this meeting happen?

    “The summit will take place at the Vatican Feb. 21-24, 2019.”

    *flips table*

    Are they joking? Next year?! And here we thought Brother Blasé in Chicago was talking through his red hat. Apparently not:

    They really can’t be bothered to move fast on this one. Besides, the way the news cycles work, come February most people will have forgotten all about this. So why "go down a rabbit hole” right now? That “bigger agenda” is more important. Pope’s gotta canonize the rumored homosexual, Pope Paul VI. He's gotta "talk about the environment". He's gotta get the kids together for the...er...synod on young people.

    And those sex abuse victims? Well, hell, they can wait! And that investigation into complicity can wait, too. Justice for wounded souls and vindication of good priests and bishops? That can totally wait!

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    Besides, it's not as if the Holy Father is going to address the root of the problem anyway. He doesn't even mention the rampant homosexuality in the clergy. So, why rush this thing?

    Really, we’ve got to consider the possibility that this bizarre man was made pope, not because he’s smart, but precisely because he’s not. And he could thus be counted on to make a laughing stock of the papacy.

    And it’s not just ‘rad trads’ who suspect this. Everyone who’s still breathing is, in fact, breathless over this monumental hubris in the Eternal City:

    This is the work, not of mere mortals, but of Principalities and Power. This is a systematic attempt to destroy of the credibility and integrity of the papacy. Francis must resign now!

    https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/in...vatican-to-address-the-sex-abuse-crisis-later
     
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  12. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

  13. Blizzard

    Blizzard thy kingdom come

    This from CNN:
    Pope Francis slammed by victims over sexual abuse scandal

    (CNN) Pope Francis is facing yet more criticism over the "glacial" speed in his handling of the sexual abuse crisis that has plagued the Catholic Church.

    The day after the Pope summoned the church's top officials from across the world to the Vatican for a February meeting to discuss the problem, Mark Vincent Healy, the first male survivor of Irish clerical sex abuse to meet with Francis, told CNN he believes the Vatican is on an "inescapable trajectory."

    While the Pope has come under increasing pressure in recent weeks with cases of sexual abuse within the Catholic Church making headlines across the world, Healy says the Pope's lack of action has left survivors fearing that little punishment will be handed out to those responsible.
    "Pope Francis has had since March 2013, when he was elected, time to deal with the scandal of clergy child sexual abuse," Healy told CNN.
    "From around the world inquiries have reported their findings and received commentary in countless reports, audits, films, documentaries, media flashes and bursts. All the while the Vatican moves at a glacial pace to 'address' the scandal with words of apology and acknowledgment of the harm done.

    "Clichés come to mind like 'too little too late,' 'action not words,' 'conferences within the religious not consultations with survivors' and so on."
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    Pope calls unprecedented meeting of top officials over sexual abuse

    Healy is not alone in his assessment of the announcement of the summit, with other survivors questioning why the process has taken so long.
    "How much time is necessary? Will it takes decades or centuries?" Colm O'Gorman, a survivor of clerical abuse and executive director of Amnesty International Ireland, told CNN.

    "It's terribly simple. Catholic clergy have raped, sexually assaulted and otherwise abused hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people across the world. The Catholic Church, at a global level, knew about these crimes, has known about them for millennia. But its approach has always been to keep those crimes secret.

    "To rape a child is an incredibly serious crime. To cover it up is, and should be, a very serious crime."
    The Pope is also facing pressure in Germany after it was revealed that the German Catholic Church will admit to "at least" 3,766 cases of child sex abuse by the clergy between 1946 and 2014. The revelation came in an upcoming report that leaked to local media outlets Die Zeit and Spiegel Online.
    But wider coverage in the German media has been muted, with the news appearing in the inner pages of many leading publications.
    In a response to the report, Bishop Stephan Ackermann released a written statement to CNN saying the church was "dismayed and ashamed" by the findings.
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    Germany's Catholic Church 'dismayed and ashamed' by child sex abuse

    A group representing victims of abuse by the Catholic Church in Germany issued a statement Thursday calling for an independent investigation.
    "This study shows us only a part of reality. Files were destroyed. Many cases have not been properly documented," Matthias Katsch, the spokesperson for the Eckinger Tisch group, said in a statement.

    "Above all, it lacks the testimony of the victims. There were no witnesses, no possibility to search directly into the archives for cross-referencing, patterns of abuse and those who knew about it," the statement added.
    "We do not have the names of the perpetrators. No responsible bishops are identified, those who have constructed and perfected this system of sexual assault and its cover-up for decades," it added.

    "Now it is clear: an organization of perpetrators and conspirators cannot reform itself."
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    Pope to meet Thursday with leaders of besieged US Catholic Church

    Pressure has been growing on the Pope in recent weeks with the church in the US facing allegations of sexual abuse on several fronts.

    The pontiff was scheduled to meet Cardinal Daniel DiNardo, president of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, on Thursday to discuss allegations that a former top American cardinal, Theodore McCarrick, sexually abused seminarians and an altar boy.
    McCarrick, who has denied the accusations about the altar boy and not responded to the allegations about the seminarians, resigned from his position in July.

    The allegations, as well as an explosive letter from a former papal diplomat, have raised serious questions among senior church leaders about why McCarrick was allowed to rise through the church's ranks, as well as who knew about the accusations.

    More here: https://edition.cnn.com/2018/09/13/europe/pope-sexual-abuse-us-bishops-intl/index.html

     
  14. Dolours: There's a Synod on the family in October. Pray that they don't use it to further undermine settled teaching on marriage and sexual morality. And we have until February to pray that the Pope and his Modernist clique don't use this crisis to destroy the priesthood in their bid to curry favour with the secular media.

    And you can still say that this institutional church, as you describe its now accepted "structure" of abuse of faithful in so many ways....one to be feared even more as likely to further "instruct" the faithful in more heresies than now are already being taught, outside of the absolutely necessary foundations of true doctrine and dogmas or else you are left with nothing in reality for the Mystical Body of Christ to exist on earth.....is one to accept as any kind of trustworthy "magisterium"? If so then our Lady would not herself be instructing the truly faithful to begin educating themselves with scripture and the never ended truth filled teachings of the historical Faith; to "prepare" spiritually and within cenacles of prayer, with help from faithful priests, in order to be able to help those who will be lost when this disgraced "institution" (that which Malachi Martin spoke to decades ago as already failed and nearing its own complete demise) has literally disappeared everywhere other than underground, led by faithful shepherds, existing in the hearts of the "solid ones" united to Her Heart, trusting in her Son's never ending Love for those whom the Mother protects. There is no Key of Peter being wielded in Truth.

    These are her times and she will be more and more noticed UNTIL the Church finally realizes It must acknowledge her as Mother and fulfill her requests. This is what the Trinity has ordered. So our prayers, while being vigilant for our very souls within the rotten institution of the moment, must be for the true conversion, repentance, and reparation of those, our representatives, who have failed to mind the store now for decades. They will have an unbelievable Justice to answer to otherwise. The Purification has begun. Remember that after the Warning is only Justice. Currently these leaders including even those willing to bend to them while not as yet seen as extreme, are inventing a globalist open kind of social work church. Strange how Luther objected to the "works" part of our salvation while now that alone is what seems to be emphasized!

    There are even now splits within major devotional groups as to whether even to pray for the Pope....which would be contrary to the Divine Will of the Father since His Will is always that all might be saved. These splits are filtering down from the top.

    So don't fear this "institutional"/superficial church collapsing for that must occur in order for that promised new, pure, renewed Church to be rebuilt as that New Jerusalem! Our Lady is telling us to beware being fooled or being co-opted by wrong teachings. When she asks you to pray for the Pope, the Bishops and priests she's asking to pray for their conversion to the Truth and fortitude for those who will be persecuted due to those horrid sins of their supposed shepherds.
     
  15. VATICAN CITY—Following a private audience with Pope Francis this morning in Vatican City, Cardinal Daniel DiNardo of Galveston-Houston and President of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops has issued the following statement regarding the recent moral crisis in the American Catholic Church.

    “We are grateful to the Holy Father for receiving us in audience. We shared with Pope Francis our situation in the United States — how the Body of Christ is lacerated by the evil of sexual abuse. He listened very deeply from the heart. It was a lengthy, fruitful, and good exchange.

    As we departed the audience, we prayed the Angelus together for God’s mercy and strength as we work to heal the wounds. We look forward to actively continuing our discernment together identifying the most effective next steps.”


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    God is so very merciful, I can not comprehend His great mercy. If the warning had already happened, so many of these gravely sinful priests would have likely died from the horror of seeing their sinfulness in the light of God. I pray that they turn to the Lord and repent for the sake of their souls before it is too late.
     
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  16. Dolours

    Dolours Guest

    I suppose it depends on what you mean by "institutional church". I see it as the Church instituted by Jesus who conferred on Peter the keys, gave all the apostles the authority to forgive or retain sins and promised to be with the Church until the end. That institution had no money, no buildings and no celebrity friends when it began. That institution will last until Jesus returns when most likely it will have been stripped of its money and buildings and deserted by its celebrity friends. There won't be any "Pope X Catholics" running for high office with their parish priest singing their praises despite their anti-Catholic platform.

    I'm not convinced that there will be any spectacular warning event. We might have to suffer a few more Francis-type papacies before we get a decent Pope to lead the remnant through the final passion of the Church. Eventually, Bishops will be chosen for their faith and faithful Bishops will elect a faithful Pope to lead the remnant through the final persecution and welcome Jesus when He returns again. The "institution" I was baptised into will endure and Pope Benedict told us what it will be like - stripped of its earthly possessions. If there are any Jesuits in it, they won't be quoting a Jewish philosopher and passing his beliefs off as Gospel truth, they won't be swimming in Arab money funding Islamic Studies, and they won't be convincing young Catholics that intrinsic evil must be honoured and embraced.

    Be careful about demanding a Pope's resignation lest you get what you wish for. You could end up with the media mouthpieces of politicians running campaigns during papal elections. Do you really want the likes of John Podesta choosing your Bishop? I certainly don't want Leo Veradkar, Micheal Martin or Mary Lou McDonald choosing mine.

    Incidentally, the US delegation met the Pope today. Looks like it was a very jolly get-together. You'll find out soon enough whether the outcome is yet another nothing burger: http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/new...n-after-us-bishops-meeting-with-pope-francis/
     
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  17. picadillo

    picadillo Guest


    PF is the problem not the solution. Pray!
     
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  18. Agnes rose

    Agnes rose Archangels

    I am more than convinced that PF is the Pope spoken of in prophecy. Soon we will be underground.
     
  19. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    Jolly, you are right
     
  20. Well, yeah, then we differ big time. And where I asked for or "demanded a Pope's resignation" is beyond me or anything within what I wrote. So I don't "want the likes of John Podesta" as you've freely projected upon me. In fact this Pope will be the last one until the predicted "Angelic Pope" who will be with the remnant to lead into the New Era of the Divine Will with a completely purified Church, reborn to fit the Divine Will as intended. And that "jolly get-together" of the Us delegation w/ the Pope today proves the dead and irrelevant "institutional church". The Church created by Jesus will exist in the wilderness for a while....why else are the faithful being told with emphasis to prepare NOW "spiritually" via scripture, comforting others lost in the confusion, constant prayer/rosary, the sacraments as available, and knowing the correct traditional Church teachings w/o any fudging on sin and not to be led astray by the false or swishy teachings being promulgated.
     
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