Here is something I was thinking about. Just speculation... In Garabandal, Our Lady said there would be three popes after John XXIII. She actually said there were four but that she didn't count one as it was so short. So interesting that the Blessed Virgin didn't count one because of the short length of the papacy. Let's take the same track with the list of St. Malachy. If one skips Pope John Paul I in the list and continues the progression, then: De medietate lunæ (Of the half moon) = John Paul II De labore solis (From the labour of the sun / Of the eclipse of the sun) = Benedict XVI Gloria oliuæ (Glory of the olive) = Francis Petrus Romanus (Peter the Roman) = ?
Speaking of Locutions to the World, the latest message has given me pause. It says, in part, "... When Pope Francis has completed his tasks, when many have a new interest and a different view of the Church, I can then bring forth the pope of Fatima ..." [emphasis mine] It is my understand, upon reading this, that the pope of Fatima will come after and be a different pope than Pope Francis. BUT upon doing a search of the messages for the phrase "pope of Fatima," I found two other messages which mentioned this person. 1. On Jan. 1, 2012, the message stated, in part, " ... The Cardinals will meet to elect a pope ... He will be the pope of Fatima and bring to fruition all of the gifts of Fatima, just in time to prepare the Church and the world for the Satanic onslaught." and 2. On Feb. 20, 2013, the message stated, in part, " ... I am about to raise to the Chair of Peter the pope of Fatima, the pope who will consecrate Russia but will do so much more ..." In 2012, Benedict XVI was pope so the message seems to have been talking about the next pope, Pope Francis. If so, then Pope Francis was called the pope of Fatima. The 2013 message also was during Pope Benedict's papacy so seems to have been talking about Pope Francis as well. Did I read the messages "wrong"? Are they calling Pope Francis the "pope of Fatima" or are they calling the next pope the "pope of Fatima?" Thanks for any clarification.
The sure thing is that, according to what Locutions clearly stated, Russia will be consacrated in 2016. If this won't happen, we'll can safely conclude that these messages are false.
the locutions said that in 2016 the church will be prepared to the consecration. it does not say that the consecration will take place in 2016
The message of Dec. 31, 2014 said: " ... During 2015, my voice will grow much stronger. The urgency of my message will be seen. However, Russia will not be consecrated to my Immaculate Heart. Even so, as these events occur, a great stirring will begin in the Church which will prepare for Russia’s consecration in 2016." I can see how that can be possibly taken two ways, but to me it seems to say Russia will be consecrated in 2016.
http://www.locutions.org/2015/01/6-the-21st-century-opportunity/ : My words only reveal the beginnings. If these are the 2015 events, what will happen in 2016 and 2017, leading up to the 100thanniversary of October 13, 1917? Before that date of October 13, 2017, I will have lifted up my beloved priest son. Through him, I will offer the people of the 21st century a second opportunity to accept the Fatima gift. http://www.locutions.org/2014/12/4-one-hundred-years-of-fatima/: By July 2016, the world will see what has happened. On July 13, 2016 will begin the one hundredth year of my speaking about the consecration of Russia. How important will be that year, leading up to the one hundredth anniversary of my appearing at Fatima (2017).
Interestingly enough, someone seems to have read our discussione and added the following comment to the original message about the consecration of Russia and 2016: "Comment: This locution must be read very carefully. Our Lady says three things. First, Russia will not be consecrated to her Immaculate Heart in 2015. Second, events in 2015 will cause stirrings that the consecration take place. Third, these stirrings will prepare for a consecration in 2016. However, the consecration depends on human decisions and Our Lady does not say “it will take place”. In 2016, the Church will be prepared for the consecration." http://www.locutions.org/2014/12/11-no-consecration-of-russia-in-2015/ The unfortunate thing is that the italian version of the site clearly states that Russia would be consacrated in 2016: "11. La Russia sarà consacrata nel 2016" http://www.sanctusjoseph.com/locuzionialmondo/Il_tempo_e_l'eternita'-main.html#_11
does it say when the USA will be consecrated? were the new Russia,im sorry to say. every promise given means the exact opposite
That comment has always been there. I read it for the first time i read that locution. There is another thread that people discuss this subject (about the two interpretation of that locution). the coment is old
The problem is that I was following the Italian site, and there it was stated that Russia would have been consacrated in 2016. So the admin of that site should be notified about the erroneous translation.
