Pachamamas thrown into Tiber River!

Discussion in 'Inspirational Stories' started by BrianK, Oct 21, 2019.

  1. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    There goes my final desperate hope that, since it was originally published back in April, it might have been an April Fool's joke. There was also the hope that it might have been an Eccles or Onion out-take.

    Spare a thought for the poor satirists. How do they provide new material when reality keeps putting up stuff like this?
     
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  2. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    If I walked in to that place, I think I'd run out screaming. Visions like that don't get built randomly.
     
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  3. fallen saint

    fallen saint Baby steps :)

    I walk with Fr. Sarah :)
     
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  4. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    I think the plant might be significant or it might be nothing. The problem is after they just went through a big scandal with the whole "month of paganism" in Rome, it is not inconceivable that the plant was something more than just a plant. And it should not have been on the altar in the first place.
     
  5. HeavenlyHosts

    HeavenlyHosts Powers

    The plant is anticlimactic, imho. As you said, we just finished agonizing through a whole month of paganism, and this was a part of it. It's finally over, but we must pray and make reparation because the documents have yet to be released.
     
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  6. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    I am not in any way disregarding Pope Emeritus Benedict's intelligence. When did I say that? He is a genius. Genius' can be wrong though. I think Pope Benedict has made a decision that a Pope retiring is the equivalent of a bishop retiring and I think he is wrong.

    God's ways are not our ways, but what you are saying here is that God is actively willing sin and that cannot be. He might allow Benedict to confuse the Church as part of His passive Will, but He would never desire that Benedict fool the Church through His active Will. We cannot know the mind of God, but we do know that there are some things He will never do. One of them is sin. God would never actively Will an antipope to fool people. He might allow it and use it to save souls, but God desires unity and truth, not division and lies.
     
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  7. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    That picture has been circulating for a long time on the web. I actually looked into it once because it was so disturbing. The problem is the picture was taken with a fish-eye lens to create an effect that is not actually there. The lines on the ceiling are straight, not curved, and if you look up pictures of the building without that effect the "snake-face" illusion disappears.
     
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  8. Adoremus

    Adoremus Powers

    I read this this morning on Twitter and shared it with a few people. I agree with you.
     
  9. BrianK

    BrianK Guest

    That picture originated with anti Catholic Jack Chick types. It’s highly misleading. On purpose.
     
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  10. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    That puts a different slant on it. It's still an ugly, modernist piece of architecture. It might be functional but completely lacks beauty, unless the fish-eye effect is somehow hiding it.
     
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  11. Praetorian

    Praetorian Powers

    Yes, the building is thoroughly ugly in any case and the large sculpture at the front of the hall is particularly weird and ugly. That, in my opinion, is more disturbing than the "snake-head" picture.
     
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  12. Sunnyveil

    Sunnyveil Archangels

    You are so right. In Prayer of the Warrior Michael Brown details experiences with evil spirits in New York City, but he had little to say about Pachamama in the Vatican. I've noticed too that his articles on the Amazon synod were sourced primarily from Crux whose authors are people like John Allen, a liberal or non-orthodox Catholic. Never does he draw from sites like Church Militant or LifeSite News. Also, his coverage of President Trump, like that of Cardinal Burke, is consistently negative. I think his latest story on Trump involved a depiction of the president shooting the media and his critics. Why make a story of this?
     
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  13. Sunnyveil

    Sunnyveil Archangels

    PACHAMAMA AND CHILD SACRIFICE!!

    Written by Kathy Clubb

    Faithful Catholics who had been scandalised by the presence of pagan idols during the Amazon Synod received another blow when Pope Francis apologised for their removal from the Church at Traspontina. However, only a little research reveals that the images which featured prominently during the Synod are traditionally associated with child sacrifice. Archaeologists have been documenting a ritual known as the Capacocha ceremony, in which children were killed to appease the Earth-Mother, Pachamama, for decades. And to make matters worse, the disturbing first-fruits of the Holy Father’s open support for paganism are becoming evident: it became known today that Italian Bishops are promulgating prayers to Pachamama.

    The Capacocha Ritual
    One well-documented case of the Capacocha ceremony was discovered in 1999 by archaeologists at the summit of the Llullaillaco volcano in Argentina. The bodies of a seven-year-old boy, a six-year-old girl and a 15-year-old, known as ‘the Maiden’ had been perfectly preserved due to a unique combination of naturally-occurring phenomena. Various experts have used the children’s bodies to study aspects of biology and anthropology; they unanimously identified Pachamama as the intended recipient of the Capacocha sacrifice.”[1]

    A different article[2] describes how boys being sacrificed were given maize beer or chicha, then strangled or hit on the head before burial. It also quotes an account from 1621 which explains how coca leaves were stuffed into children’s mouths to simultaneously drug and suffocate them. Coca leaves were found by the archaeologists inside the Maiden’s cheek, providing further evidence that the children were sacrificed.

    The Apochates Ritual
    On a side note, there is another ceremony[3] related to Pachamama that should be of interest to faithful Catholics. In the Apochates ritual, a hole is often dug in the ground, into which are placed food, leaves or stones, which are offerings for “Mother.” Before planting, devotees ask permission from Pachamama, since they will be hurting her with the gardening tools.

    As other have noted, the first Friday is a particularly sacred day in this cult.

    It is easy to spot the connections between this Apochates ceremony and the tree-planting ritual which took place in the Vatican gardens before the Amazon synod. The date of that ceremony was October 4th, ostensibly the feast of St Francis of Assisi. While poor St Francis has been endlessly co-opted by green Catholics as a figurehead for sacred environmentalism, that day was the first Friday; that is, the most sacred day of the month for devotees of Pachamama!

    Visitors to Peru can take part in traditional Pachamama ceremonies[4], in order to ‘release what is no longer working’, ‘change a negative situation’ ‘or to simply honour Mother Earth. We can only wonder for what intention the Vatican’s tree-planting ceremony was offered.

    Tourist Attraction
    Although the Fathers went to great pains to play down the significance of Pachamama during the Synod, the link between Pachamama and child-sacrifice is no secret in South America. For example, the website of a Peruvian hotel invites visitors to observe the remains of a young girl who was sacrificed to Pachamama during the 15th Century. Tourists can view “Juanita”, an Incan maiden, who was specially selected for what the website tells us “was then considered a privilege: to be sacrificed as thanks to the Pachamama or Mother Earth.”

    The young girl’s body was discovered in the Ampato volcano by archaeologists, having been sacrificed in a Capacocha ritual “to calm the Pachamama, avoid natural catastrophes and guarantee a good harvest.”[5]

    Yes, Vatican spokesmen, including the Pope himself, have assured us again and again that the idol of Pachamama is not pagan and is merely a symbol of life. They failed to explain that in order to maintain this ‘life’, the goddess demanded the death of many of her subjects, including innocent children.

    Animals and humans are still being sacrificed
    In recent times, animal-rights activists have been up in arms over the ritual killings of animals being committed to appease Pachamama. A 2015 article[6] from the Latin American Herald Tribune describes a cult whose members mix Pachamama worship with satanism and who were regularly sacrificing animals in Bolivia, in an area known as “the Devil’s Curve”.

    The rituals were performed on Tuesdays and Fridays during February and August at an altar made from a huge rock. The four-meter rock is located near a market where animals, such as rabbits, chickens, dogs and cats, were specifically supplied for sacrifices. According to the report;

    “The animals are wrapped in cloths and stabbed, buried alive or strangled … Animals are forced to drink alcohol before being sacrificed and about 50 people participate in the rituals …

    Police destroyed an altar at the site bearing the inscription “Tio Lucifer” (Uncle Lucifer) three years ago following the discovery of a human body nearby. Investigators suspected that the body may have been linked to the Satanic cult.

    Supposed Satanic groups mix Indian beliefs about animal sacrifices, especially of llamas, to Pachamama (Mother Earth) to bring about prosperity and produce good harvests with other ideas.” [Emphasis added]

    Interestingly, scholars have documented 16th and 17th century Capacocha rituals which included prayers to Pachamama and human sacrifice as taking place during August and April.

    Pope Francis’ denunciation of the symbolic act of throwing Pachamama idols into the Tiber River becomes even more sinister, given his penchant for globalists and his commitment to protecting the environment at all costs. Population controllers are eager to expand modern-day child sacrifice – abortion on demand – in South America. The Pope’s open support for Pachamama as well as the restaffing of the Pontifical John Paul II Institute with immoral lecturers will make their job much easier.

    It will be interesting to see how papal apologists react to this latest outrage that the Holy Father has inflicted upon the Church. Defending an idol on cultural grounds, (however flimsily), is one thing; public worship of an idol that demands child-sacrifice is something else entirely.

    [Note: I am indebted to Veronica@BeGreatSaints for some of this information. Please follow her if you are active on Twitter!]
     
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  14. I think he made an editorial post https://spiritdailyblog.com/news/27554 where he was showing that there is a lot of pagan symbols used in different holidays. Then he showed the presence of gargoyles on cathedrals. However, gargoyles are on the outside of the church....not on the inside. We are entirely justified to have a negative reaction to the paganism that was on display at the synod and also for all the other scandals that are taking place. As for President Trump, I was a staunch supporter from 2016-2018, but I can't help but think that with every passing day something terribly fishy is going on and so I can not support any of the people running for president. I will no longer help at the voting polls, either. The last election was so rife with abuse from ballot harvesting that I am done with the whole process. As for the prophecies about civil war in America, well that is very bad and I hope it does not come to pass. I think most Americans would not be violent against another even though the media and politicians are sporting for this to happen. I already goofed up my fast for today. Since November 1 is All Saints Day, is that a fasting day?
     
  15. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Chilling.
     
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  16. AED

    AED Powers

    I agree. I get an off feeling now from spirit daily when at one time I was a faithful reader. Who can doubt that a winnowing fan is at work. How strange that two figures on the world scene (DJT and PF) could cause such dividing lines. A friend said it is tied to the abortion issue. That respect for life now identifies the truth from lies. Anyone pro life is struggling with PF and supporting DJT. I'm just putting it out there. Not sure its accurate but both men seem like lightning rods.
     
  17. AED

    AED Powers

    I am not unsympathetic to your concerns WBTW. I keep a careful eye on all proceedings. Having been tricked by other men in power I am keenly aware that I could be tricked again so I pray and watch. But I hope he is for real.
     
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  18. DeGaulle

    DeGaulle Powers

    Abortion seems to be the litmus test. According to Sunnyveil's post above, Pachamama totally fails the test.

    And what a mockery of the First Friday devotion. A devotion dedicated to the Sacred Heart of Jesus. Then followed by a pagan offering placed on the altar on the feast of Christ the King. Combined with the undenied denial of Christ from a couple of weeks ago, there seems a common thread against Christ Himself. The fools, the fools, as if they can defeat Him.
     
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  19. Sunnyveil

    Sunnyveil Archangels

    Yes, for me as a Catholic, abortion is THE litmus test for presidents, candidates and popes.

    The pope and his collaborators seem to have picked a perfectly anti-Sacred Heart, anti-Marian, anti-life pagan (demonic) figure to symbolize their synod
     
  20. AED

    AED Powers

    I agree. Not even hiding it. Hard not to think of the devil flaunting deliberate contempt for the Sacred Heart. I hope I can drum up some energy to make a Holy Hour tomorrow. I feel such a need to make reparation but I feel like I'm wading through molasses. A darkness over everything. I really dont like this time of year.
     

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