I agree with you that Pope Francis is neither the AC nor the False Prophet. I think that he is paving the way for the False Prophet to come from the Church hierarchy. I have made an attempt to put Bruno's prophecies/locutions, etc. in chronological order. Skimming over them, it seems that the only mention of a nuclear war was prior to the 1984 consecration by Pope John Paul. After that, there's plenty of warnings about tribulations and strife in society and especially in the Church but I didn't see anything that amounts to a world war of the kind looming over us prior to the fall of the Soviet Union. What looked like a Muslim invasion in Bruno's dream could have been images of packed boats crossing the Mediterranean from Libya to Lampadusa in Italy. Some of what he saw could be happening in our time and some of it could be decades away. Prophetic warnings can be mitigated. I'm a bit tied for time these days but I'm hoping soon to finish organising Bruno's revelations by date and when I do that I'll post them on the forum.
It started outside but it has worked its way in over the years. We could say it started outside with a a vocation to get inside the Church - I guess it is inside the Church where it can become the greatest and most perfect deception, specially if it gets to the very top, as Bruno, Padre Pio, and probably sor Lucia saw. As evidenced by this other quote below, the New Theology is pretty much the very introduction of the antichristic spirit into the Church. The Antichrist boasts of bringing to human beings the peace and tolerance that Christianity promised but has failed to deliver. Actually, what the radicalization of contemporary victimology produces is a return to all sorts of pagan practices: abortion, euthanasia, sexual undifferentiation, Roman circus games galore but without real victims, etc. Neo-paganism would like to turn the Ten Commandments and all of Judeo-Christian morality into some alleged intolerable violence, and indeed its primary objective is their complete abolition. Faithful observance of the moral law is perceived as complicity with the forces of persecution that are essentially religious... Neo-paganism locates happiness in the unlimited satisfaction of desires, which means the suppression of all prohibitions. This idea acquires a semblance of credibility in the limited domain of consumer goods, whose prodigious multiplication, thanks to technological progress, weakens certain mimetic rivalries. The weakening of mimetic rivalries confers an appearance of plausibility, but only that, on the stance that turns the moral law into an instrument of repression and persecution.” ― René Girard, I See Satan Fall Like Lightning (believe it or not, it was published in 1999, this guy was a sort of prophet) At the end of the day, what the advocates of Amoris Laetitia argue is that indissolubility is violent, that not allowing everyone 'to sit at the table of the Lord' as lutherans do is simply repressive tradition. Even the already very flexible solution provided by John Paul II they also see it as violent, extremely rigourus and as 'danger' against the (second) family - reading this in light of Girard's analysis, the whole argument in favor of communion for remarried divorcees, and gays, is entirely antichristic.
The numbers are small but growing exponentially: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland despite asylum seekers needing to bypass all of Europe to get here and despite the fact that we have few if any direct transport links with the refugees' home countries. The UN gave us a good report on resettling asylum seekers but failed us on bringing their families here which means that the exponential growth will continue. They aren't particularly vocal here yet, relying on the usual Soros type mouthpieces to complain on their behalf but trends here tend to follow trends in the rest of Europe, especially the UK. Left wing advocacy groups fostered the grievance mentality in the rest of Europe turning it into the Frankenstein's monster that it is today so there's no reason to suppose Ireland will be any different. There's a sense of complacency here that our lack of an imperial past and our neutral foreign policy will save us from the types of terrorist attacks happening elsewhere in Europe. I have read that Dublin is home to the de-facto although not official European HQ of the Muslim Brotherhood. Perhaps that could be a factor in our being low on the terrorist target list. All sorts of preachers and activists have been here, apparently without too much attention from the State. While not being part of the Schengen agreement, we have a common travel area with the UK as well as easy access to continental Europe. Who would want to upset that apple cart? We did get a taste of what the future holds when an Egyptian Imam's family were arrested in Egypt while taking part in Muslim Brotherhood organised protests against Sisi. They were holed up in a mosque surrounded by the military. An agreement was reached that they could leave the mosque within a certain timeframe before the military would move in and make arrests. One of the "Irish" demonstrators was on the radio here demanding that a representative of the Irish Government go into the mosque and escort them out because she was an Irish citizen. When that didn't happen and they didn't leave, they were arrested. The Imam's daughters were subsequently released but his son is still in prison. The usual advocacy groups, including Amnesty International, are campaigning for his release. Nobody ever asks whether the young man has dual citizenship. If he has, then when he is in Egypt he will be treated as an Egyptian citizen. Whether or not he has dual nationality, a passport isn't meant to be used as a get out of a foreign jail free card but I'm afraid that's what our hard won independence will be reduced to in the years to come.
I am posting the following from an article entitled, The Apparition at Tre Fontane: 12 April 1947, to highlight two interesting coincidences associated with Bruno's original apparition of Our Lady. The first one is that Bruno was 33 years old on April 12th, 1947 and lately much emphasis has been put on the number 33, of course, '33' is thought to be Our Lord's age at the time of his crucifixion. The second one is that April 12th was the eve of Divine Mercy Sunday in 1947. The principal seer of Tre Fontane, Bruno Cornacchiola, was born on 9 May 1913, and thus he was 33 at the time of the apparition on 12 April 1947. On the Saturday after Easter, 12 April 1947, he set off for the afternoon with his children—on the following day, Sunday, he was due to give an anti-Catholic, and indeed anti-Marian, talk, and he wanted a chance to plan out what he would say. Note that this Sunday is the date of the proposed feast of Divine Mercy, and thus the apparition to Bruno happened on its eve. http://theotokos.org.uk/pages/approved/appariti/trefonta.html
The first two videos in the first post are extraordinary. But when we get to the part where the person talking gives a negative judgement on Medjugorje, I was very disappointed. I think even the Vatican has agreed the first seven or so apparitions do appear to be genuine. So we can stop arguing about that apparition site. After him singling out Medjugorje, everything he says in discernment about Fatima and so on is his point of view. And he made me feel, why should I take his discernment seriously, if he presumes to be the voice of authority over Medjugorje. Of course we all most likely believe there are false visionaries out there these days. For my part, it is Saint Pauls advice to take what is good and leave the rest to God when it comes to discernment that seems the safest option. Most of the messengers out there I avoid to be honest. Not because I think they are all false; but it gets too much. In any event, it is most extraordinary to hear more detail about this apparition in Italy, had read some of it before; but the videos are very detailed. And as other posts say, we can identify some of what is mentioned from other messengers. Even down to the St John Bosco prophesy about the year 19.. I have for many years believed that by the year 2000 the die would be cast, and the muslim invasion of Europe was the price we would pay. This is indeed ongoing, and the prophesies in the videos above clarify what we can expect. There is always prayer and repentance to mitigate the worst of what has been said in the messages however. But who is willing to start the 5 first Saturdays for example.
The reality with muslim invasion is while the numbers are small, they are meek as lambs. Once they get enough numbers the lambs will unmask and Ireland will see the wolves in sheeps clothing for what they really are. It is ironic that Ireland should fight to shake off the yoke of Britain only to jump into bed with the united states of Germany and the end of Irish independence. That is the tragedy IMHO.
Dolours, I wonder if you should go to the trouble of putting the prophecies in chronological order, I would suggest that you only do this if you truly feel compelled to do so. I think that since we don't have all of what he was told it might not give us a clear picture. I am going to try and get one of those two books and I will let you know if I am successful or not. There is one more "prophecy" which Father Wolfe mentions which for me is crucial because I think it may point to the war in Ezekiel 38/39 known as the Gog/Magog war. At @ the 24:55 min mark Father Wolfe states, "November 10th, 1973, Bruno, the Israelis and the Arabs are coming to an agreement but it will always be a forced agreement and it will always be a powder keg with fire nearby and one day it will ignite and blow up everything ruining the whole world and all living things." The date that the prophecy was given is very interesting because this was around the time that an agreement was reached for a ceasefire in the Israeli/Arab War also referred to as the Yom Kippur War. The agreement was as follows, United Nations Security Council Resolution 339 was adopted on 23 October 1973 in order to bring a ceasefire in the Yom Kippur War where Resolution 338 two days before had failed. The resolution primarily reaffirmed the terms outlined in Resolution 338 (itself based on Resolution 242), returning the forces of both sides back to the position they held when the cease fire (338) came into effect, and a request from the United Nations Secretary-General to undertake measures toward the placement of observers to supervise the cease fire. The resolution was adopted with 14 votes to none; the People's Republic of China did not participate in the voting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_339 Maybe if I am able to get a "complete" set of Bruno's prophecies we can better idea of the timing of this future Middle East war. I suppose what I am suggesting is that regardless of the Consecration of Russia in 1984, this Middle East war will occur some time in the future because it is in scripture and it is possible that one of Bruno's prophecies gives us additional information about it.
Yes, it didn't take us long to replace one kind of imperialism with another and we walked into it with our eyes wide open. We can't house our own people. People are waiting years for elective surgery in our hospitals. Our hospital A&E departments are reminiscent of scenes from MASH. Our schools are under-funded. Future generations are saddled with the debt of unsecured foreign bondholders (high stakes gamblers) whose identity is kept secret from us. Despite all this, we have volunteered to take in thousands more asylum seekers than requested, all of whom will need housing, health care and education. And that's before we bow to the UN and bring in the families of the thousands already here. They aren't very vocal here but neither are they meek as lambs. They use the courts. The average Irish person would be hard pressed to afford a basic legal case but these poor, downtrodden asylum seekers are able to take cases all the way to the Supreme Court. Burma is half a world away from us, yet this Burmese refugee won his Supreme Court case for migrants to be allowed work legally while their asylum claim is being processed: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/cri...unconstitutional-says-supreme-court-1.3101419 And now, thanks to a case taken by a refugee from Lebanon, a country with which we have no direct transport links, our marriage laws are to be revised to take account of polygamy: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/cri...d-in-lebanon-but-not-under-irish-law-1.596973 I'm glad I'm old and won't live to see the full fruits of this madness.
You're right, Carol, when you say that we don't have all of what he was told. That November, 1973 prophecy is not included in the list of extracts from the book referenced in the earlier post. It's a waste of time trying to sort them out if there are chunks missing from what he was told because what was omitted could change the meaning of what was included. He was certainly consistent in warning about apostasy in the priesthood and those warnings became more intense after the 1984 consecration. It might be interesting to compare the dates of his warnings with some of the turmoils in the Church. I wonder what was Fr. Wolfe's source.
Interesting in light of the developments this week with Iran and Turkey. Saudi Arabia has been cozying up to Israel and I expect now will do so even more. Remember, Saudi Arabia has no friend in either Persia nor Turkey who would love to string them up for their past allegiances which led to the fall of the Ottomans so long ago. Not to mention their stance currently on Qatar. Which Turkey is openly opposed to. Both Iran and Turkey have also come to an agreement on Syria, even though they appeared to be at odds over the nation. Iran backing Assad and Turkey backing the overthrow. They agree that dividing the nation into four separate security sectors is a good solution. I expect that in the next few years we will see a league of nations developing there under Turkish/Iranian leadership. I fully expect that once either of them has nukes that the kingdom of SA will come to a brutal end.
“The most powerful anti-Christian movement [today] is the one that takes over and "radicalizes" the concern for victims in order to paganize it. The powers and principalities want to be “revolutionary” now, and they reproach Christianity for not defending victims with enough ardor. In Christian history they see nothing but persecutions, acts of oppression, inquisitions. This other totalitarianism presents itself as the liberator of humanity. In trying to usurp the place of Christ, the powers imitate him in the way a mimetic rival imitates his model in order to defeat him. They denounce the Christian concern for victims as hypocritical and a pale imitation of the authentic crusade against oppression and persecution for which they would carry the banner themselves. In the symbolic language of the New Testament, we would say that in our world Satan, trying to make a new start and gain new triumphs, borrows the language of victims." ― René Girard, I See Satan Fall Like Lightning[/QUOTE] This sounds like the Democratic Party in the US.
This sounds like the Democratic Party in the US.[/QUOTE] Indeed- I think it is the whole Progressive movement, and communism was its primitive form. They present themselves as being 'on the right side', as the legitimate liberators of humanity.
Horrifying Dolours. I used to teach the Greek classics and this is the Trojan horse all over again and all the cassandras who are warning and warning are exhausted and no one listens. It is truly judgement falling on what used to be Christian nations. I live among very so called progressive family and friends. They are blind. Blind!! There is no telling them either. If they don't want the truth they refuse to hear it. It is "fake news". I have to keep reminding myself to not get furious but to pray and pray. And pray some more. But it is hard.
Vatican delegate: Every indication Medjugorje will be recognized, perhaps later this year Archbishop Henryk Hoser, sent by Pope Francis to study the pastoral situation in Medjugorje, said ministry at the site of the apparition was proper and consistent with the doctrine and teaching of the Church; as well as being effective and well organized. https://cruxnow.com/global-church/2...edjugorje-will-recognized-perhaps-later-year/ Report: Archbishop Indicates Medjugorje Will Be Approved This Year http://spiritdaily.org/blog/church/report-archbishop-indicates-medjugorje-will-be-approved-this-year
Dolours, I wonder what Father Wolfe's source was also. In addition, he may be fluent in Italian and I am not but I found the following for anyone who is fluent in Italian. I think this may be the entire booklet written by Msgr. Francesco Spadafora, it is only 66 pages long and I know that I stated that it was 164 pages but the dimensions were also stated as 11 cm x 18 cm, so this is very likely the booklet in Italian and it is stated as such, https://doncurzionitoglia.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/le-tre-fontane_mons_francesco_spadafora.pdf I found the above link in the following article, https://doncurzionitoglia.wordpress.com/2017/04/16/3-fontane-spadafora/ which is dated 4/16/17. I know if I translate it using Google it will be so-so but I thought someone here who can understand it may be interested. Monsignor Francesco Spadafora biography/background is very interesting. I found the following link which contains some English text if you scroll to the bottom of the page and it provides a lot of information about him, http://www.preteristarchive.com/StudyArchive/s/spadafora-francesco.html I think some of you may be interested in it. I think that Saverio Gaeta's 2016 book on Tre Fontane is only available in Italian also, https://www.amazon.it/Veggente-segreto-delle-Tre-Fontane-ebook/dp/B01CGCT53M Sister Emmanuel Maillard also wrote an article about Tre Fontane for Spirit Daily, Padraig may have posted this in the past, http://spiritdaily.org/blog/news/broken-crosses PS - I suppose that there is always kindlefish but I have never used this application and I wonder how good the translation would be. http://www.k-international.com/blog/amazons-kindle-your-newest-universal-translator/
AED We are always here for you Difficult for each one of us in different ways and in different degrees It seems as though when one trial ends, another one materializes We are understanding friends here
Perhaps you are doing more good than you think. In either case better a chink of light than no light at all. Perhaps you are that chink of light.
I think that 1973 was probably a turning point, I forgot that Our Lady's messages at Akita were also given in that year, on July 6th, July 26th, August 3rd and October 13th. http://www.miraclehunter.com/marian_apparitions/messages/akita_messages.htm
